Don't be selfish & hoard cakes again please

People really hoarding Gateaus because they're scared of losing? Use them as you get them and you won't have anxiety over "wasting" them.

I think it is more likely that you will abandon the game before they finally change it. So you can just use the cakes now while you still play DBD.

I mean, no one is required to use their cakes. I know I'm not thrilled about giving a camping, tunneling, and slugging killer double BP for playing like that. I'm sure killers feel like they don't want to reward survivors for "gen rushing" them. No one is obligated to use them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That's true lol

Because I solo que for the most part and I don't want bad teammates being rewarded. Its really that simple. In the same way you ask me this question, why does someone who gets facecamped deserve a minimum of 20-25k BP? Why does that matter and why is that the deciding factor to use your cake or not?

When I play with friends, its custom games to screw around because SWF is a joke and I don't feel like pulling that s* in a public lobby. If you want to be rewarded for being camped to death, and then ignore the bad players who actually don't deserve anything more than what they get (a depip and low amount of BP), all it really says is you want a solution for yourself while the other problem keeps happening. Why reward bad players? Whats to stop them from playing like that when they can do nothing all game and still get a decent amount?

So, being in chase for 5 gens and escaping with 4 people is only worth 13k bp? When your teammates who do not get chased at all get more?

Being hooked and facecamped so you only get 8k BP at most, even though you distracted the killer the entire game, while your teammates get 20k bp?

Getting solo bloodpoints is not getting points for being a teammate. Getting solo bloodpoints simply means you manipulated the game in your favor.

You're getting emblem points for gens while in chase, so why not gain BP too? You're getting emblem points for teammates being unhooked, why not BP too?

You need a mix of shared BP pool and a solo BP pool. 2k in each catagory you can fill alone. The only way to max out is if everyone throws in 2k Bp. Meaning it's in your best interest to keep teammates alive, but also in your best interest to rush gens if your teammate is getting rushed out. That gives you the biggest chance of getting the most possible BP, while the average BP for survivors gets bumped up from 22k to 30k.

So yeah, shared survivor BP pool. Improves the game, improves the grind and improves solo survivor all at once.

So you want to give the useless teammate on your team the points aswel?

For not doin' a single gen or unhook the Whole game and rather just sitting in a corner?

Flawed design already,

Don't worry, I was saving them for this. I'll be using them if I play a killer that has them.

Randoms have a habit of DCing when I bring a cake. So my cakes are being saved for when I play with friends.

I think a lot of people (myself included) that play on console don’t have as many cakes as usual since the game was almost unplayable during the anniversary event :( I barely got to play and stack cakes because of the horrible lag. I’ve noticed that people seemed to have been saving them for the double bloodpoint even that started today though.

Since you feel so entitled to other people their cakes, I'm going to burn zero and will leech off others their cakes.

The cake is a lie!

1. doesnt matter, it debunks your claim.
2. it's horrible, more horrible than my suggestion, thus, debunks your claim that my suggestion is worse.
3. The game is designed for survivors to be downed and caught. You literally cannot expect survivors to be 0 hooked. So the fact is that you are keeping a killer away from other teammates. That should be rewarded.
4. 40% of rank 1 killers I encounter do camp, even if it means giving up gen pressure. And no, I am not ignoring bad players being given more BP, because guess what? Bad players like that tend to survive longer because they are never near important objectives, and thus gain more BP than anyone being camped.
5. Good killers do facecamp though. They dont facecamp when they know survivors arent good enough to consistently run gens. But if you're facing an optimal team, the best strategy is to camp, because you're very unlikely going to get more than 1 kill against an optimal team, unless you have a very strong killer like Nurse or Blight. As for evidence for my claim? What is the last time you truly had a useless teammate that earned less than 10k BP even though while never being afk the entire match? Because more than often, you're calling a teammate useless because they didnt do what you expected them to do. Which doesnt make them useless, just selfish. And guess what? Selfish survivors already earn an average of 17k BP anyway. The system I suggested would give them on average 20k BP. 3k BP more than they already do. Totally useless survivors that sit in a bush doing nothing? They cant really earn BP if they dont do anything. Besides, I never said my system was perfect, just that it was BETTER. I would be the first one to agree that it might need a better system. But when you are on the hook, in chase, on a gen, opening a chest, cleansing a totem, unhooking a teammate, healing(yes, even self-caring) or in any other way actively progressing the game, you should gain from the survivor pool. The reason why I didnt really define my system this way, is because Nurse, Wraith, Huntress, Trickster and Spirit are not always in chase even if they are chasing a survivor. And while looking for totems, you're not useless as a teammate either. So overall seen, it would be a better bonus to ignore individual activities. As truly useless survivors dont really exist anyway. Best case scenario, you can simply create a pool for survivors that can be unlocked by doing certain actions. Like, unlocking 25%(since 32k would be the total objective points, and 8k is the normal max, 25% of the max total would be 8k) of the total gathered objective points by finishing 1 generator, unlocking 25% of the total altruistic points by finishing a heal/unhooking a teammate safely, unlocking 25% of the total chase and survival points by being hooked once. It's not that hard to improve the system I suggested to only reward people who actively do things, it's impossible to improve the current system.
6. It's not really bad survivors that are super altruistic. Heck, the only truly good survivor teams will be altruistic. Remaining injured all game has some benefits, but only when it comes to speeding up generator speed. Which, doesnt award you in any other catagory anyway.
7. Except that I have *KEPT TRACK*. Never said the number was objective. Just that over the course of my games, I have kept track to get some statistics over a significant amount of time(I play about 60 hours per month, mainly during the weekend, the average game lasts 9 minutes, so that's about 400 games every single month, meaning about 1280 survivors faced every single month as I play killer about 80% of the time, an additional 240 survivors when I played survivor, over the past 3 months, that's over 4500 survivors, and only 0.23% of those were playing like truly useless people. Hiding in bushes all game, crouching most of the game. As for campers, well, I've faced 80 killers, I got to be first on hook about 40% of the time(I tend to run around a lot, so I get found first quite often), out of those 32 killers, 6 were facecamping and tunneling. Out of the remaining 48, there were another 5 killers (face)camping and tunneling the first person they hooked, for a total of 11. Leaving an actual statistic of 14% killers that were red rank, while camping and tunneling. Yet, I do not really count these heavily, which is why I stated 5% instead, because I have only faced 80 killers during the tracked period, which is a very small sample size and far from being an accurate representation, so I used it based on how often I remember being camped instead, which, honestly, isnt that much. I've actually been considering to create a new file where I keep track, since I didnt keep track of the anniversary event where I played survivor a lot more with friends(its a bit tough to track both sides when all my teammates are static). So yeah, that 0,23% useless survivor statistic is quite accurate. The 0.001% was a bit hyperbolic
8. again, doesnt really matter, since the current system punishes usefull player a lot more often than useless players are being rewarded. Having a system that slightly rewards bad players more than they currently do, compared to significantly rewarding good players more, is by default a better system than the current system at play.
9. No, I am looking at the picture objectively. You seem to be the one to keep looking at it subjectively. I notice that a player is getting punished for something they have no control over. The killer punishes himself. He has total control in the decision to camp or not. He is getting rewarded for a risky play or getting punished for a mistake. The player on the hook, however, is getting punished for the decision the killer makes. THAT is the objective view. There are drawbacks put on the survivor for no reason. I am not saying there are no drawbacks for the killer. But that is the killer's decision to make. As a survivor, you do not have a choice in any matter while on the hook, and you're actively getting punished while being on the hook.

"Nah homie, if you aren't going to punish bad players for weak ass decisions, you're only going to incentivize them to keep playing like that because they know they'll make the 20-30k BP per match. They can do whatever they want."

Also wrong, as if everyone plays like that, no one will earn BP at all.

One of these days I'm finally gonna get around to using my year 3 cakes and slight/moderate map offerings

They're my cakes, and if I want to hoard them I can. I worked for them. I don't have to spend them.

Because Americans are taught that any system that benefits society as a whole, will in reality only benefit the demon lazy leeches who somehow found a loophole to be getting governmental support.

The benefits to a shared survivor pool will benefit survivors overall more, while maybe only giving leeches a minor benefit.

"You're not understanding the simplest point i'm LITERALLY giving you" And I am going to point out why YOU'RE not understanding it all.

100% wrong. If I was in chase for 2-3 gens and no one came to save me, I would be getting 8k-10k points, especially if the killer ends up going for me before I even get to do anything else. If I was in chase for 2-3 gens with MY system(its not a 2-3 gen chase if they didnt pop, yknow), same scenario, I would be getting 11-13k BP.

And if my teammates didnt do #########? Well, all the generator points would still be mine.

Who said the BP has to be the same for everyone? Not me. Shared bloodpoint pool doesnt mean equal bloodpoints.

"Again.. what does that making me American have to DO with anything else. You're 1st off. assuming i'm American..

And 2nd off. I'm Technically Canadian with a mix of Irish / Scottish / German / Spanish / French

...Don't assume someone is American.. [BAD WORD].."

1. I literally explained why it matters "Americans are taught that any system that benefits society as a whole, will in reality only benefit the demon lazy leeches". That has literally been your argument prior to this
2. I literally said I was gonna start assuming you to be American because you were acting like something that would overall be more beneficial to be an act of heresy. How often do you really see a survivor consistently urban evading? I've rarely seen it the past year. Sure, there have been times where it was more common than other times, but I'd say about 2-3% of my games would hold such a player, where in 5-10% of my games I would be tunneled hardcore. The biggest reason that percentage is higher, is because I encounter them more often and those games tend to last less than 4 minutes.

"Cause you'd be on a gen at the start of the game while he's chasing others around first?

It's rng weather or not he'll find you first. and even if he doesn't and You're LAST to get said chased.

You still get maybe. 1-2 gens done in that manner. + maybe acouple unhooks. leaving you with 15-18k points."

I also took it into consideration that I did a gen prior to the chase, which is why the upper limit was 10k. So, still wrong. You only get 1250 points from doing a solo gen, maybe about 2k points if you finish it with another survivor. And assuming 1-2 gens done with a couple of unhooks, you would still get 15-18k points, if not slightly more. The amount of BP you are personally getting depends on how much you've done+how much your team has done if you were in a position where you literally couldnt do anything else. Meaning if you're on a gen when your teammate saves someone, both you and your teammate gets some points. If you're slugged on the ground or on the hook while your teammates did gens, you'd get some points too. And yeah, if you are self-caring in the corner, getting some survival points, you would get some points from people who are doing gens at that moment, just as they would gain some survival points from you patching yourself up. Because believe it or not, self-care can be used quite efficiently.

That means if you're urban evading to a hook, taking almost twice as long as running to the hook, you would get a lot less BP too.

*Hoards cakes even harder*