Congrats survivors

It's nothing to do with pallet camping. -Any- pallet stun before this change had an about 80% chance to cost the survivor a health state and about half their speed boost. It was better to just ignore the pallet and take the hit, since you'd get more distance that way.

Someone is upset they were being carried by a broken mechanic,

What has DS got to do with any of this?

and no, I don't think survivors 'abused' DS lmao, not a perk I use and not a perk I worried about when I played killer.

but please, bring desisive strike into this hit validation arguement, that makes perfect sense.

Desisive strike was LITERALLY something you can avoid, you can drop a whole ass pallet and keep running and still get hit sometimes.

The real problem here is that it's giving you the hit animation and sound too soon and then it fails validation. I think that's what needs to be fixed, if possible. That could result in a fat feeling of lag, though, from when you swing to when you find out if you got the hit.

Maybe killers need to stop trying for these very last second hits at a pallet? It seems to me that, as some have stated above, killers have been relying on getting an easier hit near a pallet than if they were in the open, else why so many killers are trying to hit killers just exactly at the pallet? maybe respect the pallet and go around or catch the survivor before they get to it or zone them away from pallet locations?

Is swinging at the right time next to the pallet a killer's most important skill?

I do but not often. I'm certainly familiar with how to play. Look around on these forums. Pallets are not 'immunity bubbles'.

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/268595/the-pallet-fix-is-amazing/p1

Actually your response to this was quite rudely written, and unnecessarily hostile in my opinion.

But you actually literally explained in your own post EXACTLY why this being the way it is now is worse for Killers than it was for Survivors all this time. It's in your own argument.

You state that you could potentially increase your chasing potential as a Survivor "for another 30 seconds or a minute" - now, imagine there are 4 Survivors in a match, and just so you are aware in the current state that this "Pallet Validation" is in right now it will give the Pallet Stun to the Survivor every single time no matter what, I have not yet even once in like 40 games I played had my successful attack actually injure the Survivor so the Killer will never get the hit and Survivors have been blatantly abusing this "new power" by, Yes, extending their chase AT LEAST another 30-60 seconds, possibly more..

Even if it only happens ONE single time per Survivor in a match, that's an extra 4min of chase in a 15min match because that's roughly how fast Good Survivors can get all 5 gens done.. so this "Pallet Validation Fix" has quite literally increased the Killer's TOTAL chase time by around 25% of the entire match every single game..

That's not taking into consideration that it takes 3 downs to actually Kill a Survivor, and Survivors may be also using perks like Dead Hard to help them get another loop or two in.. and the entire match is a 1v4 situation, where survivors COULD help each other, with bodyblocks, flashlight saves, flashbangs, simply healing each other up after losing a Killer in a chase, etc etc..

So now you're looking at a POTENTIAL increase of 30-60 seconds per chase using your own words, per survivor, per 3 chases for each Survivor to get a Kill. If it's only 30 seconds per, that's still 30x3x4 = 360 seconds = 6min of additional chasing for a Killer per match. If we use your 60 seconds of Chase potential that's literally 12min EXTRA chasing a Killer has to do now. Of course, I agree with you, that is a Best case scenario for Survivors and quite unlikely to happen in a single match.. but the possibility is actually there now.

6-12min of Extra Chasing for a Killer is INCREDIBLY impactful.. I don't think people are understanding the magnitude of the difference.

Everyone's just trying to point at 1v1 and how it's fair, sure possibly 1v1 this could be fair, but the game is actually played 1v4!

Please don't forget that.

Just so you know, I'm all for advocating Fairness in the game, I play both Survivor and Killer in Red Ranks myself and enjoy playing both sides. What I'm trying to explain to people is that this change is far more impactful on the Killer side than the way it was for Survivors before, and that using the argument "it was like this for one side so now the other side has to suffer" isn't a very good argument because Ideally NEITHER side should have to suffer playing something that makes the game this Unfair .. It's really bad to play Killer right now, is it going to make every Killer quit the game? No, definitely not, is it going to make me quit the game? Probably not, I still enjoy playing SWF w/ friends, and I'll still play Killer occasionally - but I know one thing, if this "change" is here to stay and doesn't get looked at, sure, over time I may start to play less and less Killer and DBD in general.

Honestly I've already started, I haven't logged in to DBD since I last made this post the other day. I know I will again, but I'm not in a rush or anything.

The point is just that you weren't as close as you thought you were, so you had NOT caught them up enough to connect with the hit. It's either that they need to change the validation back to being killer-sided or they need to change the animation so the killer doesn't get the hit animation before the server has validated.

The thing is from an objective standpoint it feels as if vacuum pallets are back but now the animation is bugged, lags behind the server or whatever and does a rollback instead of teleporting the survivor forward.

Emphasize on "FEELS" not "is".