BHVR I appreciate you, regardless

@Unicorn said:
Seems like everyone always finds something wrong with this game, but in the same breath are still playing it just as much as they are hating it. Can we give the devs props for what they do right instead of toxic tomatoes when they do something wrong or need improvement? Pretty sure we're all adults and can express our opinions without having a hissy fit and bashing the people who made Dead By Daylight possible to play.

Dead by daylight is one of the few online games i enjoy even if i am not playing it with friends, something about the concept attracts me so much, i think the devs have done a pretty good job so far and they deserve praise, to an extent, even though the game is not exactly perfect

@Malakir said:
What a cute echo chamber

Have fun here

Close the door when you get out please!

Unicorn said:

Malakir said:

What a cute echo chamber

Have fun here

Dude pls take your salty toxicity elsewhere. If you don't want to gather around the campfire then skidaddle outta here. We don't need the negative energy. We'll pass, thanks though 💜

Dr_doom_j2 said:

Psssh, I'm so sick of seeing this kind of stupid ass post... People will always complain, and complaining about complaining is about the dumbest and most pointless gesture..

You know, we, real human beings who have lives and jobs (some of us with jobs and lives much more difficult than that most if the dev team) paid for a product, and as a technically unfinished product that thrives on a business model of continued expansion, we as ths consumer have not only the right to complain, but a duty to voice our opinions on the product we spent labor earned income on as well as discuss our opinions about it with others so as to inform both the developers of what we want, as well as other customers of what to realistically expect if they so choose to also purchase this product. 

You sitting there telling people to stop complaining, to stop voicing our displeasures with the game, does absolutely nothing. It doesn't affect change, it doesn't  help anyone see the light or error in their ways. It provides absolutely no purpose other than to try and silence people who have legitimate issues with the game. All you're saying is basically "come on guys, it's not that bad, we shouldn't be bothered, just thankful that these devs let us play in their wonderful playland, we should be so lucky to have whatever they give us".
That's effet.
That's empty plattitude.
That's sucka #########.

People want to see the game improved. It will never be perfect, of course, but it's well within our rights to complain and discuss to try and find ways to improve the product we're planning to invest both hard earned cash and easily wasted time into.

@Malakir said:
Dr_doom_j2 said:

Psssh, I'm so sick of seeing this kind of stupid ass post... People will always complain, and complaining about complaining is about the dumbest and most pointless gesture..

You know, we, real human beings who have lives and jobs (some of us with jobs and lives much more difficult than that most if the dev team) paid for a product, and as a technically unfinished product that thrives on a business model of continued expansion, we as ths consumer have not only the right to complain, but a duty to voice our opinions on the product we spent labor earned income on as well as discuss our opinions about it with others so as to inform both the developers of what we want, as well as other customers of what to realistically expect if they so choose to also purchase this product. 

You sitting there telling people to stop complaining, to stop voicing our displeasures with the game, does absolutely nothing. It doesn't affect change, it doesn't  help anyone see the light or error in their ways. It provides absolutely no purpose other than to try and silence people who have legitimate issues with the game. All you're saying is basically "come on guys, it's not that bad, we shouldn't be bothered, just thankful that these devs let us play in their wonderful playland, we should be so lucky to have whatever they give us".
That's effet.
That's empty plattitude.
That's sucka #########.

People want to see the game improved. It will never be perfect, of course, but it's well within our rights to complain and discuss to try and find ways to improve the product we're planning to invest both hard earned cash and easily wasted time into.

I agree on everything you said but you just came into a huge echo chamber thread

They think if you bash on them isn't to make them improve or/and love for the game but just to complain

Be careful posting here

But you are just complaining, if you were actually trying to give feedback you would not answer to everyone who disagrees with you an unexperienced player who "circlejerks"

was your day really that bad?

Theluckyboi said:

@Malakir said:
Dr_doom_j2 said:

Psssh, I'm so sick of seeing this kind of stupid ass post... People will always complain, and complaining about complaining is about the dumbest and most pointless gesture..

You know, we, real human beings who have lives and jobs (some of us with jobs and lives much more difficult than that most if the dev team) paid for a product, and as a technically unfinished product that thrives on a business model of continued expansion, we as ths consumer have not only the right to complain, but a duty to voice our opinions on the product we spent labor earned income on as well as discuss our opinions about it with others so as to inform both the developers of what we want, as well as other customers of what to realistically expect if they so choose to also purchase this product. 

You sitting there telling people to stop complaining, to stop voicing our displeasures with the game, does absolutely nothing. It doesn't affect change, it doesn't  help anyone see the light or error in their ways. It provides absolutely no purpose other than to try and silence people who have legitimate issues with the game. All you're saying is basically "come on guys, it's not that bad, we shouldn't be bothered, just thankful that these devs let us play in their wonderful playland, we should be so lucky to have whatever they give us".
That's effet.
That's empty plattitude.
That's sucka #########.

People want to see the game improved. It will never be perfect, of course, but it's well within our rights to complain and discuss to try and find ways to improve the product we're planning to invest both hard earned cash and easily wasted time into.

I agree on everything you said but you just came into a huge echo chamber thread

They think if you bash on them isn't to make them improve or/and love for the game but just to complain

Be careful posting here

But you are just complaining, if you were actually trying to give feedback you would not answer to everyone who disagrees with you an unexperienced player who "circlejerks"

was your day really that bad?

Unicorn said:

Dr_doom_j2 said:

Psssh, I'm so sick of seeing this kind of stupid ass post... People will always complain, and complaining about complaining is about the dumbest and most pointless gesture..

You know, we, real human beings who have lives and jobs (some of us with jobs and lives much more difficult than that most if the dev team) paid for a product, and as a technically unfinished product that thrives on a business model of continued expansion, we as ths consumer have not only the right to complain, but a duty to voice our opinions on the product we spent labor earned income on as well as discuss our opinions about it with others so as to inform both the developers of what we want, as well as other customers of what to realistically expect if they so choose to also purchase this product. 

You sitting there telling people to stop complaining, to stop voicing our displeasures with the game, does absolutely nothing. It doesn't affect change, it doesn't  help anyone see the light or error in their ways. It provides absolutely no purpose other than to try and silence people who have legitimate issues with the game. All you're saying is basically "come on guys, it's not that bad, we shouldn't be bothered, just thankful that these devs let us play in their wonderful playland, we should be so lucky to have whatever they give us".
That's effet.
That's empty plattitude.
That's sucka #########.

People want to see the game improved. It will never be perfect, of course, but it's well within our rights to complain and discuss to try and find ways to improve the product we're planning to invest both hard earned cash and easily wasted time into.

Its not about the complaining, its about the way people complain. Bashing is unnecessary, as I said. We're all adults and can express ourselves civilly. If you live a life that resorts to bashing and throwing a fit everytime something doesn't go as planned then good luck with that.

Malakir said:

The_Crusader said:

Some people go too far with their comments definitely.

At the same time I don't think BHVR takes enough time to consider some of the changes they make to the game. Decisive strike, legion, insta flashlights etc they just throw things out there and it becomes a nightmare to balance later.

"I'll take the dedicated servers argument with a grain of salt" -Dev
"If you don't like play killer play something else. Play survivors for a change or Civilization, is a good game" -Dev

If even the devs are toxic asf to their community who actually keep the game alive, they kinda deserves to be called out sometimes. I do it out of love because I wanna see this game crush every other game and improve

Still, it's obvious people will bash on them when they [BAD WORD] up and prise them when they do good stuff. Already happen and will keep happening

Unicorn said:

Dr_doom_j2 said:

Unicorn said:

Dr_doom_j2 said:

Psssh, I'm so sick of seeing this kind of stupid ass post... People will always complain, and complaining about complaining is about the dumbest and most pointless gesture..

You know, we, real human beings who have lives and jobs (some of us with jobs and lives much more difficult than that most if the dev team) paid for a product, and as a technically unfinished product that thrives on a business model of continued expansion, we as ths consumer have not only the right to complain, but a duty to voice our opinions on the product we spent labor earned income on as well as discuss our opinions about it with others so as to inform both the developers of what we want, as well as other customers of what to realistically expect if they so choose to also purchase this product. 

You sitting there telling people to stop complaining, to stop voicing our displeasures with the game, does absolutely nothing. It doesn't affect change, it doesn't  help anyone see the light or error in their ways. It provides absolutely no purpose other than to try and silence people who have legitimate issues with the game. All you're saying is basically "come on guys, it's not that bad, we shouldn't be bothered, just thankful that these devs let us play in their wonderful playland, we should be so lucky to have whatever they give us".
That's effet.
That's empty plattitude.
That's sucka #########.

People want to see the game improved. It will never be perfect, of course, but it's well within our rights to complain and discuss to try and find ways to improve the product we're planning to invest both hard earned cash and easily wasted time into.

Its not about the complaining, its about the way people complain. Bashing is unnecessary, as I said. We're all adults and can express ourselves civilly. If you live a life that resorts to bashing and throwing a fit everytime something doesn't go as planned then good luck with that.

Depends on what you refer to as bashing. If you are refering to the way in which posters respond to eachother on thread, using ad-hominem attacks and logical fallacies to try and sink each other without addressing the content of eachothers argument, then I say yea, pointless bashing. But if you are refering to people addreasing the dev team making poor design choices, no, you cannot just blanket all lobbied criticism into "bashing", that's just ignorant.

And again, when you pay for a product or service, it is within your right to criticize it, period. It's not up to your mom, your dad, the nosy neighbor across the street, or the chef that just made your plate to decide that the meal he just prepared for you is "fine as is" that's your meal that you paid for, and the kind of laissez-faire attitude towards it that you appear to be portraying just leads to a complacent mindset. No one is going to agree with being told to just accept it, and anyone who tells you that doesn't have your best intrest in mind, so why would you ever listen to that person?

Lol its as if you didn't just read what I last said. I'm not telling anyone to "just accept it", as you can see in all my posts that was never referenced or suggested. I just don't like the fact that people resort to insults, childish fits and yes, BASHING. Bashing each other and bashing the hard work the devs put into this game. Everyone has a right to their opinions and to state their criticisms constructively (at least thats how I wish it was) I said what I said & I don't and won't feel differently. BHVR works hard, give em' a chance to fix whatever is the problem and stop the whipping for a sec.