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McCote is using strawman at the stream

RSB
RSB Member Posts: 2,258
edited December 2018 in General Discussions

"People want every killer to be better and better than Billy and Nurse, if the killer is not better, top tier, then they don't like it."

Oh #########, give me a break. At least make the killer fun to play as and against, a fair one, balanced, we are not asking for a better killer than Nurse.

That ignorant killed me with his words.

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  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    Better than Hillbilly?
    Maybe when there were only 4 Killers and infinites were a-okay.

    But now, i'd be more than satisfied if we get one with kill power comparable to Doctor or better.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    God forbid we ask for buffs to a killer who's worse than Freddy. I hope the devs come to their senses soon.

    "Th3Y wU/\/2 OP kilLAHz lIKe BiLlY ;<<< L" as id someone said that. Not to mention, that Billy is perfectly balanced, but whatever.

    @Boss said:
    Better than Hillbilly?
    Maybe when there were only 4 Killers and infinites were a-okay.

    But now, i'd be more than satisfied if we get one with kill power comparable to Doctor or better.

    McColte lives in his own world, and the only time he gets to touch the reality is when he gets rekt by survivors on the stream. And since his Boss prohibited him from embarassing himself he does not know how his game works at all.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    edited December 2018

    @RSB said:
    "People want every killer to be better and better than Billy and Nurse, if the killer is not better, top tier, then they don't like it."

    Oh [BAD WORD], give me a break. At least make the killer fun to play as and against, a fair one, balanced, we are not asking for a better killer than Nurse.

    That ignorant killed me with his words.

    Cote is known for that.
    The quotes "pretty good job so far" and "play survivor/civ" are also from him.

    If he is forced to play killer, then we see results like these:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R98e-Y4Lu8w&amp;t=1s

    Good that he doesnt play DBD in his freetime, he would be really unhappy I guess :smile:

  • Acromio
    Acromio Member Posts: 1,737

    @Boss said:
    i'd be more than satisfied if we get one with kill power comparable to Doctor or better.

    A ######### killer, then. Like the Legion.

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    @RSB said:

    @Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    God forbid we ask for buffs to a killer who's worse than Freddy. I hope the devs come to their senses soon.

    "Th3Y wU/\/2 OP kilLAHz lIKe BiLlY ;<<< L" as id someone said that. Not to mention, that Billy is perfectly balanced, but whatever.

    @Boss said:
    Better than Hillbilly?
    Maybe when there were only 4 Killers and infinites were a-okay.

    But now, i'd be more than satisfied if we get one with kill power comparable to Doctor or better.

    McColte lives in his own world, and the only time he gets to touch the reality is when he gets rekt by survivors on the stream. And since his Boss prohibited him from embarassing himself he does not know how his game works at all.

    Intentional or not, i like how you put a capital B there. ;)
    I can't wait for him to be invited again to play DbD at a convention, and that he couldn't refuse cause it's too big of a name and thus would be a good way to spread the game.

  • se05239
    se05239 Member Posts: 3,919

    @Master said:

    @RSB said:
    "People want every killer to be better and better than Billy and Nurse, if the killer is not better, top tier, then they don't like it."

    Oh [BAD WORD], give me a break. At least make the killer fun to play as and against, a fair one, balanced, we are not asking for a better killer than Nurse.

    That ignorant killed me with his words.

    Cote is known for that.
    The quotes "pretty good job so far" and "play survivor/civ" are also from him.

    If he is forced to play killer, then we see results like these:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R98e-Y4Lu8w&amp;t=1s

    Good that he doesnt play DBD in his freetime, he would be really unhappy I guess :smile:

    If this was a larger company, akin to EA or Activision, players would leave the game in droves thanks to his wokeness. Why aren't the DbD players more critical towards Mathieu and his drones?

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    @Acromio said:
    A ######### killer, then. Like the Legion.

    Nope, a damn fine Killer. :)

  • Acromio
    Acromio Member Posts: 1,737

    @Boss said:

    @Acromio said:
    A ######### killer, then. Like the Legion.

    Nope, a damn fine Killer. :)

    If Freddy and Legion didn't exist, the Doctor would be the worst killer in the game.

  • DocFabron
    DocFabron Member Posts: 2,410
    edited December 2018
    RSB said:

    @Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    God forbid we ask for buffs to a killer who's worse than Freddy. I hope the devs come to their senses soon.

    "Th3Y wU/\/2 OP kilLAHz lIKe BiLlY ;<<< L" as id someone said that. Not to mention, that Billy is perfectly balanced, but whatever.

    @Boss said:
    Better than Hillbilly?
    Maybe when there were only 4 Killers and infinites were a-okay.

    But now, i'd be more than satisfied if we get one with kill power comparable to Doctor or better.

    McColte lives in his own world, and the only time he gets to touch the reality is when he gets rekt by survivors on the stream. And since his Boss prohibited him from embarassing himself he does not know how his game works at all.

    Billy is one of my favorite killers to face because he actually poses a threat in the right hands. A good Billy is quite intimidating! THIS is what all killers should be. This is what ALL survivors should feel when they load into a match.

    Right now, when they load in and see Freddy, Legion, or LF, they know it's gonna be an easy game of ring around the rosie until the last gen pops 3 minutes in.
  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    @Acromio said:

    @Boss said:

    @Acromio said:
    A ######### killer, then. Like the Legion.

    Nope, a damn fine Killer. :)

    If Freddy and Legion didn't exist, the Doctor would be the worst killer in the game.

    Good opinion!
    Mine opinion is that Cannibal would be. :)

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    @se05239 said:

    If this was a larger company, akin to EA or Activision, players would leave the game in droves thanks to his wokeness. Why aren't the DbD players more critical towards Mathieu and his drones?

    I stated this in another thread.

    There is not enough games in this genre, people don't have any place to go at all.

    They won't be able to take this arrogant attitude when the new slasher type games come out.

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    We don't need killers to be stronger then Nurse or Billy, we need to be them viable. Honestly, are you gonna have fun with 4 man toxic escapes every game?

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @se05239 said:

    @Master said:

    @RSB said:
    "People want every killer to be better and better than Billy and Nurse, if the killer is not better, top tier, then they don't like it."

    Oh [BAD WORD], give me a break. At least make the killer fun to play as and against, a fair one, balanced, we are not asking for a better killer than Nurse.

    That ignorant killed me with his words.

    Cote is known for that.
    The quotes "pretty good job so far" and "play survivor/civ" are also from him.

    If he is forced to play killer, then we see results like these:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R98e-Y4Lu8w&amp;t=1s

    Good that he doesnt play DBD in his freetime, he would be really unhappy I guess :smile:

    If this was a larger company, akin to EA or Activision, players would leave the game in droves thanks to his wokeness. Why aren't the DbD players more critical towards Mathieu and his drones?

    A lot of DBD veterans have already left the game. I play only a very small amount of DBD anymore too =(
    Also they can be lucky that there still is no competitior in this segment and friday 13th failed to deliver too. (from what ive seen)

    DBD is turning into a casual fest, rank 1 is completely laughable nowadays and consoles become more and more important. Even in the forum, the share of console players raises rapidly.
    Maybe they can still stop this with dedicated servers, but I fear DBD is one of these games turned into a casual game to appeal on consoles

  • ReneAensland
    ReneAensland Member Posts: 838

    We're not asking for an OP killer.
    Killers like Spirit, Doctor, and Bunny ######### are kicking ass in the right hands.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258
    edited December 2018

    Just waiting for the Last Year to destroy this game, I would like to see Colte's face when it happens.

  • se05239
    se05239 Member Posts: 3,919

    @RSB said:
    Just waiting for the Last Year to destroy this game, I would like to see Colte's face when it happens.

    Eh, I'd never assume that a game will "destroy" any other game. F13 was supposed to kill DbD, wasn't it? Now it's dead itself.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @se05239 said:

    @RSB said:
    Just waiting for the Last Year to destroy this game, I would like to see Colte's face when it happens.

    Eh, I'd never assume that a game will "destroy" any other game. F13 was supposed to kill DbD, wasn't it? Now it's dead itself.

    @se05239 said:

    @RSB said:
    Just waiting for the Last Year to destroy this game, I would like to see Colte's face when it happens.

    Eh, I'd never assume that a game will "destroy" any other game. F13 was supposed to kill DbD, wasn't it? Now it's dead itself.

    @se05239 said:

    @RSB said:
    Just waiting for the Last Year to destroy this game, I would like to see Colte's face when it happens.

    Eh, I'd never assume that a game will "destroy" any other game. F13 was supposed to kill DbD, wasn't it? Now it's dead itself.

    F13 is a different story, Last Year is way better, fun and polished than F13 and DbD combined.

  • megdonalds
    megdonalds Member Posts: 742

    @RSB said:
    Just waiting for the Last Year to destroy this game, I would like to see Colte's face when it happens.

    Won't happen because the same has been said about F13. Last year lacks of atmosphere and its pacing is really slow.

  • Freudentrauma
    Freudentrauma Member Posts: 1,053

    @RSB said:
    Just waiting for the Last Year to destroy this game, I would like to see Colte's face when it happens.

    Last Year is fun, but different. It's hard to say, but even though both game are asymmetrical slasher games, they feel and play different. Same counts for F13th, I think.
    I mostly compare DbD with Identity V and Soul at Stake. Two games, which are still very close to DbD's core design, but with a different approach. But none of those aren't too complicated.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @Nokillerinozone said:
    Mcote is right though. Of you can't get a 4k every game, the killer is regarded as trash and useless.

    Wild survkid golem destroyed our second gate! Defenders, attack!

  • alivebydeadight
    alivebydeadight Member Posts: 1,559

    @Nokillerinozone said:
    Mcote is right though. Of you can't get a 4k every game, the killer is regarded as trash and useless.

    sir, nobody said that but you and all killers can be good if played right

  • Acromio
    Acromio Member Posts: 1,737

    @Boss said:

    @Acromio said:

    @Boss said:

    @Acromio said:
    A ######### killer, then. Like the Legion.

    Nope, a damn fine Killer. :)

    If Freddy and Legion didn't exist, the Doctor would be the worst killer in the game.

    Good opinion!
    Mine opinion is that Cannibal would be. :)

    Leatherface can at least camp effectively. The Doctor's power is borderline useless. It's not an opinion. It's a fact.

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    @Acromio said:

    @Boss said:

    @Acromio said:

    @Boss said:

    @Acromio said:
    A ######### killer, then. Like the Legion.

    Nope, a damn fine Killer. :)

    If Freddy and Legion didn't exist, the Doctor would be the worst killer in the game.

    Good opinion!
    Mine opinion is that Cannibal would be. :)

    Leatherface can at least camp effectively. The Doctor's power is borderline useless. It's not an opinion. It's a fact.

    You're right that it's not an opinion.
    It's a wrong fact.

  • Acromio
    Acromio Member Posts: 1,737
    edited December 2018

    Good luck killing non-braindead survivors with your beloved scrubstomper.

    PS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fact

  • Darktronik
    Darktronik Member Posts: 94
    edited December 2018

    He always makes statements like that. He is a douche and unfortunately he is the game director. Bad final decisions come from him.

    We won't be seeing new good chapters that bring new powers and mechanics. It is sort all the same.

    Now it is all about the sweet sweet cosmestics.

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    @Acromio said:
    Good luck killing non-braindead survivors with your beloved scrubstomper.

    PS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fact

    Don't worry, i'll kill Survivors with him at all ranks. :)
    And i know what a fact is, don't you worry about that.
    You be worried about spreading fake facts instead. ;)

  • AlexAnarchy
    AlexAnarchy Member Posts: 685
    edited December 2018

    @se05239 said:

    @RSB said:
    Just waiting for the Last Year to destroy this game, I would like to see Colte's face when it happens.

    Eh, I'd never assume that a game will "destroy" any other game. F13 was supposed to kill DbD, wasn't it? Now it's dead itself.

    for entirely different reasons but yeah, that's an argument too make, an incredibly bad and flawed one but it was one.

  • AlexAnarchy
    AlexAnarchy Member Posts: 685

    My usual question is, just how much more does the playerbase need to see from these devs to know they don't play the game enough or the understand the playerbase hardly as much as they try to let on? Cote is always the best one to prove it all everytime he pulls something like this.

    Cuz simply any sane person knows that fun and being a viable character are hand in hand.

    If it's fun but all you do is lose, then fun is going to be very short term.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    This statement is sooooo crappy garbage.
    They never released a killer better than Nurse or Billy and player never asked for anything like that.
    They just ask for killer to be at least "mid tier".
    We all know that Billy and Nurse will stay at their spots, despite the Devs trying to bring them down (BBQ nerf anyone?).
    Even when they advertised Doc as the killer that will be gamebreaking, he i snow just mid tier.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @Wolf74 said:
    This statement is sooooo crappy garbage.
    They never released a killer better than Nurse or Billy and player never asked for anything like that.
    They just ask for killer to be at least "mid tier".
    We all know that Billy and Nurse will stay at their spots, despite the Devs trying to bring them down (BBQ nerf anyone?).
    Even when they advertised Doc as the killer that will be gamebreaking, he i snow just mid tier.

    Wonder when will he wake up from this "only survivors fun matters" dream. Probably when the money flow stop.