Are we all at this point just willing to admit-
TikTokster is THE SINGLE WORST killer in DBD at this time? I don't know how it is remotely comparable to any other killer in the game. It is a constantly demoralizing experience to play him because he is abysmally slow and his power doesn't really circumvent that in any meaningful way.
Nobody has to respect his blades because it takes several in a row to damage state, and most levels have access to a LOS break where you can put more pressure on him aiming then he can onto you. His chases take forever at rank 1, because survivors transition from hugging corners to rounding loops at angles where you get, at most, two clean pecks with his pp blades before a pallet or high wall window ends the chase.
I often hear trapper brought up as the worst period. I cannot understand that as someone who probably has more losses than wins as trapper, because yes in most maps his traps are too visible, and he has to spend time picking them up, but at least he can play m1 when he wants to. Yes, he is map dependent to a degree, but Tokster is that to an even worse level, I don't think he's even good in half of them, whereas I think there's only three or four maps that are really terrible for Trapper. Imo, Trapper just gets to have more agency in the match in general, when I play Tikster, I feel like I'm a little boy pestering the survivors, hoping I annoy them to death.
Does anyone else agree? Who do you think is worse than TikTok?
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When trapper exist in his current form only he can be the worst
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What in your opinion makes him that much worse than him? I really don't see that being the case but I'd like to understand your point of view.
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Trickster is just like a weaker blight.
Okay no that comparison doesn't really make sense but it seems like the current thing to say
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Firstly unlike trickster trapper has to use early game time to set up his traps. These can be in very awkward positions depending on the map and can lead to 1 or 2 gens getting done before you’ve even started a chase
Secondly even if a survivor gets caught in a traps they can free themselves or get a teammate to pull them out in about 2 seconds. Even if they are injured and step on a trap they will not get downed after pulling themselves out which leads to traps only being useful when you are very close unlike his closest counterpart the hag
Thirdly he is completely reliant on add ons to do well. If you don’t bring a trapper bag you are going to lose most matches. Trickster is bad but compared to trapper he is pretty decent
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He excels in loops with no LoS breaking objects and deadzones. High walls, big maps and Sprint burst destroy him. He needs some major reworks like Myers and Trapper because he really sucks atm.
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On console the Depipster is the worst killer, but trapper without add-ons is arguably the worst killer in the game.
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Trickster rn is in a ok spot I guess, tho I don't know how I feel about his knife count beaing lowered
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Legion
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Old trickster was the weakest in the game. New trickster is definitely not the weakest anymore. He is a solid B tier. You just got force them away from loops, get them in the open. Now unless you are on console, than yeah he might the worst since his knifes are way of.
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I mean, in the right situations, Trickster can still down people insanely fast.
He sucks in every other single way, but my money is still on Trapper for the moment. Trapper has possibly the weakest early game in the entirety of DbD. If a Person walks into hag's web while she's setting up, she can still likely down that person (A good hag can, anyways).
Trapper on the other hand has to walk across the entire map to get his power, and hope that survivor's don't see him setting down his traps or just straight up see them while in chase, and avoid them. Basically nullifying Trapper's power.
Imo, a 110% killer with a power that is insane sometimes is better than a 115% with no power. Which is what Trapper is if good Survivors can predict his traps.
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Nah, I can get 3 or 4 kills easily with Trapper. I'm lucky if I get one kill with Trickster. He's rough on console.
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I'd say Trickster is Legion and Huntress
Blight? O.0 that would imply that
A.) He's decent
B.) They're enjoyable to go against
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I disagree. He's just unfriendly to those who want to learn how to play him. I would say it took around a month of learning him for me to consistently get 2k+'s and that was before his changes. Now he's much more difficult to learn with the laceration decaying so much faster.
If you know how to play Trickster, downing people isn't an issue — his gen control and pressure is unless you have a good snowball going. But that's where you use his kit in sync with perks.
Other than that, he's my best performing killer that's carried me to a consistent rank 1 for the first time since buying the game.
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I don't think Trickster is nearly as bad as people say he is. You have to learn the aim (but that's how it should be with any Killer power), but once you do, he is incredibly strong in 1v1. A good (not even great) Trickster can end chases easily. I say easily because I've gone up against them and watched some pretty incredibly streams of it. Like all players, are there bad Tricksters? Yes. Probably more bad than good, and that could be because those players haven't taken enough time to learn how to use him. And I think those people are unfairly skewing the overall perspective of him. Trickster is one of the best at 1v1, and in many cases, his 1v1 aptitude is broken. With Huntress, you hear her winding up and she slows down. It's easier to pit skill against skill against her (when her hit boxes aren't the size of a continent at least). He is weaker at map pressure for sure. Ideally the devs should've addressed that in his rework. There were some good ideas presented. But I think the idea is, if you can quickly get players downed in 1v1, you make it harder for the remaining survivors to finish the gens, so in essence, his power is supposed to be a snowball effect to counter his lack of map pressure. All you can really do against him is try to stay hidden, because even breaking LOS isn't going to always work. Not if the killer cuts you off at loops, throws through pallets or windows, traps you in a corner, or just gets lucky with some sketchy hit boxes.
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He might be exaggerate but he is no where near the worst.
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But he's 115% and he can injure survivors while not even being there, and if he traps a healthy survivor that's basically an instadown. I don't know how that's worse than someone who needs 7 knives to injure, moves at 110% and is even slower while throwing or using Main Event, can't hold Main Event like Oni holds his power btw. And his knives "decay" over time meaning you can get 1 knife away from injuring, but because you didn't throw that last one, you don't get anything for it.
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He isn't the worst killer in the game, Trapper takes that spot, but he's been nerfed because....the devs ig
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This is my solid opinion. It's much easier to take a trapper with leathal pursuer from the very beginning and get a down. Maybe it is a console thing though, It seems to be the consensus he's just the worst on there
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Trickster on console is Z tier due to recoil if it didn't exist he'd be maybe C- tier
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Trapper hasn’t been nerfed?
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The laceration decay forces you to use his power when it's a good time rather than spamming from far away and getting a down. It's where he differs from Huntress. And just because he's a 110% doesn't mean he can't m1 mindgame.
But I do agree that he should be a 115% killer with the previous changes and that his Main Event should be able to be held like Oni.
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Your getting fooled by bad survivors. its so obvious that these survivors he is vsing are notoriously bad.
The guy has 40 meter lullaby in which you can shift+w before he even gets next to you. He moves at 110% so his M1 game is absolute trash, like Hag-level bad. He takes many hits to down. If he does not confirm 6 hits, the survivors heal automatically in the chase. He has zero ability to spilt injure pressure due to laceration. His main event is countered by just running in a circle because his throwing mode puts him at 96%(slower than survivors). He also cannot vault windows or kick pallets or do anything in this main event. Post-changes, he starts with 44 knives and constantly has to reload. His power is terrible at main stream powerful tile sets.
The add-on he is using cut through single+Explosive knives are really only effective at less than 5 meters and every other add-on is either useless, tries to fix a drawback to his power or cannot be used because of current base-kit changes nerfs(Initial throwing rate).
At least trapper has 115% to play normal M1 game and has actual add-ons to do well like black tar botte that makes his traps nearly invisible, Bloody coil that gives free injure pressure on trap disables and iri stone that automatically sets his traps that have been disabled while completely solving his trap capacity problem brown to purple add-on bag. Trickster lacks basic gameplay fundamentals. So yes he is new worst killer in the game.
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No, I meant trickster has been nerfed
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Well if we’re talking about add ons than trickster’s piercing and explosion add ons make his chase potential insane
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no they do not. they just reinforce his strengths in downing players that were out in the open. He has no chase potential at strong positions which is what makes a killer strong in a chase. Its like saying running double Vile purge effectiveness add-ons on plague make her better at chasing people in the open because she can break people instantly. well she can do that without those add-ons and those down would likely be confirmed regardless.
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