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Is Legion's addon 'Stab Wounds Study' and 'Frank's Mix Tape' as bad as I think they are?

Stab Wounds Study reduces deep wound timer of all survivors by 3 sec.

Frank's Mix Tape reduces deep wound timer by 5 sec from a frenzy attack.

Deep wound timer is 20 sec. AFAIK.

If you are running or mending, the timer stops, so I don't see the benefit of these 2 purple addons.

Or am I missing something.

Comments

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 9,091

    Pretty bad add ons considering the cooldown takes 5 years

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 9,091

    usually when I use these I meme or challenge myself to only get downs using it my personal record is 5 downs

  • Ghoste
    Ghoste Member Posts: 2,135

    People already answered your question, but I'm gonna comment anyway because it's a travesty that these add-ons have been left in a useless state for so long. If they're not gonna adjust Legion's kit anymore, they could at least tweak the add-ons so they actually DO something.

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 9,091
  • truegod_10
    truegod_10 Member Posts: 393

    Very bad. Legion needs an add-on pass and a complete rework honestly.

  • GoodBoyKaru
    GoodBoyKaru Member Posts: 22,939

    Yeah they're garbage

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    Yeah outside of meme'ing they are horrendous.

    Even with meme'ing they are bad tbh

  • Seraphor
    Seraphor Member Posts: 9,436
    edited August 2021

    And yet I see survivors letting themselves get downed by deep wound all the time, so those 3 or 5 seconds will make a difference, sometimes.

    It's kinda like Pigs add-ons that increase the time it takes to search a jigsaw box. If the survivor messes up that time will cost them.

    The idea I guess is to mindgame the survivor so they stop running and then interrupt their mending, keep doing it until they succumb. Though I suppose in most cases it would be easier to just hit them again.

  • FFirebrandd
    FFirebrandd Member Posts: 2,446

    Yes they are as bad as they seem.

    I wasn't going to post, but I've seen several people indirectly say that these addons should be buffed. Here's the thing though, Frank's Mix Tape is bad on purpose. Think about it. Frenzy has no charge time, Frenzy lets Legion keeps perfect movement control, Frenzy doubles the speed gap between Legion and Survivors, Frenzy allows Legion to vault windows and pallets about as fast as Survivors can. How are the Survivors supposed to keep from getting stabbed by Legion in Frenzy?

    Trick question, they aren't. Unless Legion uses Frenzy from too far away, or messes up badly the Survivor is getting stabbed 100% of the time. That's why at base, Frenzy cannot down people. That's also why the one addon that gives Frenzy the ability to down is left to be borderline unusable. If it was usable, Survivors wouldn't be able to do anything about Legion's slow Frenzy downs, and it'd make Legion the most boring and uninteractive killer to face... again.

  • PsychoTron
    PsychoTron Member Posts: 348

    I did play a match with both of these addons, and I managed to get someone downed with it just by injuring them and going after someone else.

    But I couldn't find where they were downed and no way I was going to run deerstalker as 1 of my perks and I was being put in with yellow rank survivors.

    I remember not knowing about the mending mechanic and was wondering why my screen was getting bloodier and bloodier while i was working on a gen.

  • WTBacon
    WTBacon Member Posts: 593

    Alternatively they could do the more sensible option and just rework them to do something completely different.

  • FFirebrandd
    FFirebrandd Member Posts: 2,446
    edited August 2021

    Sure, but to be honest, Demo and Huntress arguably needed to get their add on pass before Legion did... and... I could easily see Ghostface and Trapper being ahead of them too. Other than those 2 add ons, Legion's add ons are... fine. Not very exciting, but fine. Unlike GF and Trapper who have add ons that are nearly required for them to function. Heck, even the changes to Wraith's Windstorm needed to happen first.

  • GeneralV
    GeneralV Member Posts: 12,682

    Yeah, they are pretty bad right now. However, back when Legion released this combination was scary.

  • Aneurysm
    Aneurysm Member Posts: 5,270

    if they let the killer see the deep wound timer again they might have some use.