Why do survivors complain about killers?

Says who? Killer mains like you? I never see a survivor blame the killer when they mess something up at red ranks, you’re talking out of your behind.

Why do killers complain about survivors?

When? When we had real infinites, double pallets, 30 pallets per map, pallet vacuum, windows that could be vaulted from both sides and any angles, 4 insta decisive strikes, instablind flashlights, bnps that instantly repaired an entire generator, generators that took 50 seconds to repair, permanent hook sabotage, no gen kicking, no gen control perks, sprint burst with a 20 seconds cooldown which always recovered, self care as fast as a regular heal, insta heal medkits, jungle gyms and structures without holes into them, no speed penalty when multiple people repaired the same generator(and this list is just off the top of my head)? Do you seriously want anyone to believe the game was somehow harder for survivors back then? If so, you must be trolling.

The game simply did not get any easier for survivors. It's either just as easy as it was before or harder, it can't be easier with all the broken stuff removed.

Survivor's complaining about a killer they don't like is someone they can't abuse in a loop. That's why Billy is often the most fun for survivors to play against.

Unless he is a god at curving (which is rare to see), he's essentially a basic M1 115% killer at TL loops and jungle gyms. Any killer that goes against this playstyle will not be liked by certain survivors:

Ranged killers are 'boring' to play against because they can shoot over short walls and pallets.

Traps killers are boring because they can negate a loop by teleporting or a bear trap.

Stealth killers are boring because I can't see them or their terror radius; no fun.

Nurse is boring because they don't follow the same rules as every other kills

@TwitchyMike I already stated they’re two different experiences. It’s well known here. You’ve seen the threads. Killers have much more enjoyable games playing against solo que than they do SWF. That’s not true in every case, but it is for the majority of the time. Solo que is more balanced than SWF.

@Tsulan Notice how I purposely didn’t say COMPETENT solo que survivors lol? It’s not common to have all 4 survivors on point. Don’t get me wrong, it happens from time to time, but again that’s not the solo que experience. Plenty of threads on here attest to that. I imagine maybe Red Rank 1 survivors have that often, but they’re the top 1% of the community.

Oof…that’s another can of worms in itself lol. Their twitter page went nuts an hour ago, with distaste for it. NGL- I’m on that hate train as well.

Guess we’ll see when the time comes.

I guess part of that bias for me is I don't use SC as a survivor so I'm always darting my camera around like I have adhd. And one the the people I play with isn't all that great with awareness himself so he will be actively panicking over the mic about getting chased meanwhile the killer has been off him for 10s and is giving me a pat on the back on a gen or something. Usually ends it quite a laugh. I also main legion so I have the pinnacle of being an m1 killer and thrilling tremors really tells me anything I need to know so I don't need to be super attentive.

I run the gambit of killers as well I don't use perks or addons on most of them since they are almost all level 1 because I can't justify putting points into them when I win with them naked the majority of the time anyway, legion is who I've put points in because I think he's fun and feels oppressive with thrilling, Pop, surge, thana.

Many games give you an option for hard, normal or easy mode. This game do not have that so I guess people that complains and wants nerfs are the ones that plays games on easy.

Rank 1

That's a solid shitpost lad, one that truly displays your ignorance of comp level of play

If the killer is good it will pretty much be a guaranteed win since there will only be one survivor on a gen most the time

And most matches are solo queue. Even an SWF will struggle in a 3v1 and will probably lose

Well how would you propose a counter to comms? There's no way without nerfing the lower bracket who already are balanced.

Perks in general don't have many counters. Bamboozle doesn't have a counter besides wasting pallets and pop's only counter Is repressed alliance which is like saying blood echo counters dead hard

For me its the same mindset but different. I never get mad at killers because it's not their fault we lost, I solo queue so most the time if I'm gonna blame anyone, its gonna be my teammates. Why blame the killer, they got me and played good, but then my teammates aren't doing a single thing.

I mean it's a multiplayer game people will complain about anything really

Because killers can decide if the survivors are going to have a fun match or not. In truth both sides can, but the killer can do more, so survivors may have more grievances with their own personal experiences.

Survivors bring offerings, sweaty builds and ridiculous items.

Killers being offerings, sweaty builds and ridiculous addons.

What the survivors cannot do is dictate the rhythm of the game when the above factors are equalized (equal degrees of sweat). If a killer decides someone is not going to have fun, they will NOT have fun. Survivors cannot make the game unfun for the killer beyond mild annoyances that are equivalent to hook hitting and nodding. The one thing survivors can maybe do is refuse to do gens, but this is BANNABLE. Whether or not BHVR enforces this properly is another story. If survivors 'bully', it's mostly due to a skill difference, and the killer should be able to do something about it but just lacks the experience to. Toxic behaviour but that's human nature, not survivor/killer nature.

So, yeah, especially if you're a solo survivor, you're probably more prone to having your day ruined by some killer that wants to go full force because they lost a game to a SWF a few days ago.