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Guesses on how MMR works?

1miko
1miko Member Posts: 268

So I read that MMR would be based on your previous level of gameplay, recorded over the last few months, dividing the level between each killer you play.

Since I started playing I had 4 Hillbilly games and you can really expect me to underperform when I tell you I already hit rank 1 and was stuck in red ranks when I tried him all those times. In 4 games I managed to get 2 kills, both in the same game against people that were actually terrible and managed to M1 down because I could never hit a chainsaw hit. Now I thought MMR would match me with actual begginers since I completely underperformed with him and I'm only able to play him as an M1 killer.

I hop into a game hoping to get the adept and never get to play this awfully disgraced killer until I want to get 100% achievements and get his chainsaw hit achievement.

I keep getting lobbies with people, mostly with open profiles, having around or over 3k hours, 100% achievements on the game mostly. My first guess is that the system doesn't (surprisingly) work as intended.

Then I think there's a global MMR value (for playing other killers like in my case trapper, spirit, trickster, nemesis and doctor) that goes for every killer and then will balance out with your MMR value calculated off your previous X killer games?

Maybe I'm just overthinking it and it's just matchmaking still being f*cked up still after SBMM implementation?

I don't have a clue about it, these are my guesses and still I can't really be sure, so it'd be nice to see everyone's opinions and experience in case any of you tested this with any killer you don't usually play, to have a better guess on how SBMM actually works, since the devs have either been quite unspecific on this works or the system straight up doesn't work at all.

Comments

  • InsatiableMop
    InsatiableMop Member Posts: 325

    Hours in game don't matter though that's why we need MMR

  • Marc_go_solo
    Marc_go_solo Member Posts: 5,347

    If the data being used to dictate MMR is wonky, then naturally at the start it will also be working off as well. Ironically, how the previous ranking worked, people were being put against others vastly above or below their skill. As a result, if - for example - one aspect is based on escaping chases, and previously players of far less skill weren't able to catch you, the MMR will decide you need to be placed with killers who often won chases.

    So, a possible reason as to why some have had unpleasant experiences may not be anythingnto do with MMR, but with the data the MMR has to work with.

    Also, it may also be that any sort of matchmaking will never be universally accepted, because it doesn't take the human element of bias into account; someone feels they are better skilled than they actually are, or blames others for mistakes clearly made by them - just a couple of examples.

    Anyway, I can only speak on behalf of my experience, which has been excellent and a boost to realising my skill was better than I thought by the quality of all players I've been surviving alongside/ fighting against.

  • 1miko
    1miko Member Posts: 268

    People with around 3000 hours, able to win most matches against average level killers just through experience shouldn't be matched against begginers that are still figuring out the game, which take a bunch of hours. MMR shouldn't measure playtime, but skill is related to experience and experience is related to playtime though?

  • InsatiableMop
    InsatiableMop Member Posts: 325

    I was being facetious. The the argument for mmr is that ranks don't matter because it's a measure of playtime not skill at the game. Therefore playtime doesn't matter and doesn't equate to skill. I think it's dumb and that ranks certainly do matter for every rank that isn't red.

  • Emeal
    Emeal Member Posts: 5,299

    One of my friends has 14 000 hours. Still dies easy mode and hes good.

  • 1miko
    1miko Member Posts: 268

    oh wow, that's unbelievable, wish I could ask you for the profile to check it myself because that seems like a really good example of an exaggeration :D

    fair enough

  • TacitusKilgore
    TacitusKilgore Member Posts: 1,380

    Im quite sure it calculates hours played, matches won, matches lost, and current rank. It combines all of those together and assigns them individually to each killer, and generally to survivor. How it adds and subtracts points from that hidden score? its anyones guess. Does it count kills? Hooks? Chase time? Gens done? Its a complete mystery and thats very frustrating since it does not at all give us a clear idea as to what BHVR thinks is a win/loss.

  • Junylar
    Junylar Member Posts: 2,005

    It doesn't.