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SBMM will be the best thing to ever happen to me

No longer will I get teams where all 3 go down within 30seconds, have people selfcare through devour, NOED, sloppy and I certainly won't get survivors never touch gens walking round the edge of the map.

I seriously dont get how people hate the idea of SBMM. I assume its because they're in ranks they shouldn't be due to the bad ranking atm?

SBMM doesnt need to be perfect, but anything is better than the current ranking

Comments

  • ShinobuSK
    ShinobuSK Member Posts: 5,279

    Or maybe people hate sbmm because it makes their games much worse than they are currently?

    Surely not the case, only your experience is the correct one.

  • EntitySpawn
    EntitySpawn Member Posts: 4,233

    I never understand this higher level thing, people say it's only the top top 1% so not everyone is going to be there. And youd only have to sweat if the SBMM is so harsh with no leeway which it wont be.

    No game should be a free easy win without trying. Rank should mean something.

  • SirGando
    SirGando Member Posts: 374

    Same. i had very good matches during SBMM. Solo Q was fun and i got competent teammates and as killer i got survivors around my skill level. Maybe i was just lucky but i had good experiences with SBMM

  • EntitySpawn
    EntitySpawn Member Posts: 4,233

    Okay well that's a balancing point isnt it. Sure they wont balance for the best of players but even you yourself just good players on gens with some of the maps isnt fair well that needs to change not just throw bad players in ranks they dont belong.

    Everyone acts like they're top % which 8snt the case. All these red rank players that are clearly struggling will get easier games bot harder. People need to stop spreading fake news.

    You will be matched with equal skill (roughly) once some SBMM is in then they can balance around. No I'm not on about just that 1% again which everyone goes to I'm on about the actual normal good solo survivors. Not the top not the worst.

  • EntitySpawn
    EntitySpawn Member Posts: 4,233

    Glad I'm not alone, feel way to many people are exaggerating SBMM as if its nothing but bad.

    I feel too many people have become comfortable with easy games

  • Aneurysm
    Aneurysm Member Posts: 5,270

    My solo queue teammates were so much better with MMR on.

    Like I don't demand perfection or anything, as in all survivors must be able to loop the killer for 12 gens and get at least 3 flashlight saves one of which must be via CJ tech, but holy badword the crap I was getting yesterday.

    3 survivors alive, 3 genned against a legion, about to finish the last gen which we could have managed -together- but the (red rank) claud runs in terror against the (frenzied) legion approaching us (frenzied legions, the most deadly thing in the game, clearly) So the game drags on another 10+ stupid minutes after. Meg dies, the gen gets popped, I'm the last one trying to get a gen done while claud skulks near the hatch, I die, he gets to her before I'm fully sacrificed (good) and after all that, she DCs

    I don't mind dying, or losing, unless it's in extremely stupid and unnecessary circumstances like that just described. I've been spoiled by my MMR teammates honestly because I am struggling to tolerate this crap anymore. SWF and killer only til it's back on for good I think.

  • KerJuice
    KerJuice Member Posts: 1,932

    My biggest gripe with it is, it mostly gives me low rank teammates against a high rank killer in the first few matches. I hate it. Before this SBMM when we were able to see our ranks, only me and the killer were red ranks while my 3 teammates were green or lower. And they PLAYED like it. No game sense at all, not noobs, just plain bad at the game. The killer is already good, and these scrubs are pulling you off the hook before the killer can take 5 steps. Now 9 times out of 10 red ranks don’t tunnel, so they would go after them. That was unnecessary. They took aggro for nothing and would go down quickly. There would be 20 min games where I would die first, and have the most points. CONSTANTLY. That was infuriating. Imagine getting this matchmaking system that pairs you up with bad players, and when you die- you see you have more points than the 3 left alive. With the closest having a 3K difference, and the furthest didn’t even make it to ten thousand. 😑 Players constantly DC’ng for the dumbest things, just screwing you over while you keep further slipping into matchmaking abyss, until the game says ok he sucks- he belongs here. Now the real fun begins since I’m getting bad killers who camp and tunnel on top of the bad teammates. Can’t get out any time soon. I would have to endure a lot of bad games to get back to where I was before the SBMM- that’s not fun. ELO hell.

  • WeenieDog
    WeenieDog Member Posts: 2,184

    I've already been jaded around SBMM and not because I think it's bad but of what I think are weird takes from some content creators. During the test, I watched one get consistent 2ks but absolutely hated every moment of it. But Once it was turned off, the 4ks came back and they were like "dbd is balanced around solo q :) ".... while they 4k the solo q's every game.. sometimes at 5 gens.

    Yes, that is what balance truly looks like.

  • EntitySpawn
    EntitySpawn Member Posts: 4,233

    Well that's my issue, I'm rank 1 versing a rank 1 killer with meta perks but my team cant do chases, dont do gens etc. Like fine you cant do chases, but at least do a gen lol

    Well that's why SBMM isnt permanently on yet they will gather data so when it is on it wont need as much adjusting. You should already be roughly in your skill area

    Well what people class as a win is different. I play at a pretty high level, hell iv had the game since its release lol but for me (this is at a high level)

    9hooks as killer is great against a string team, I'll take that as a win if I can clearly see they're a good team (kills dont matter to me, rather 9hooks 1kill than 3hooks and 3 kills)

    Survivor honestly if we get all gens done it's a win, even if I die at 2gens left as long as they get completed the survivors did their objective. I'm more about my chase and objective that Escaping, I'll always try save you even if I die

  • fogdonkey
    fogdonkey Member Posts: 1,567

    Everyone is talking about hard hard it is for the killer at high levels. But shouldn't SBMM adjust for this, and remove the killer player from this high level if it sees that the killer player can't keep up with this high level gameplay?

    Also probably many of you just think that you are a high level killer, but in fact you are just not so good. But it is not a problem, SBMM should just match up you with a bit lower skilled survivors who are also just wannabe high lever players.

  • EntitySpawn
    EntitySpawn Member Posts: 4,233

    Well atm balance is impossible, you can have 2 people same rank and time played but be on way different skill levels. By no means is this game perfect but bigger maps can be made smaller, we have seen this from the swamp maps years ago and now they play really well.

    But for example temple of purgation is a huge map iv had games which all gens are done super fast and others where I get 12hooks at 4/5gens while both being the same killer and ranks etc.

    The game doesnt need to be a perfect balance, it cant with RNG especially to the degree we have atm. But it sure is possible to balance for the average good players and not the top % or even the bottom %

    Itll take time but better for the games full time health

  • GeneralV
    GeneralV Member Posts: 11,750

    MMR is very bad for me, because it only has 1 possible outcome, where it gives me the sweatiest people possible, some of them much more skilled than I am.

    And this makes the game so ######### boring!

    Thankfully, I am not even playing DBD anymore, so it doesn't really matter what happens to MMR.

  • EntitySpawn
    EntitySpawn Member Posts: 4,233

    And then you'll go down against easier people. But if you dont play your opinion doesn't really matter as we should focus on those dedicated and actively playing (no offense)

  • EntitySpawn
    EntitySpawn Member Posts: 4,233

    Realistically though with SBMM they would make changes, sure not hugely focused on the top 1% but all changes will help regardless. Cant balance when you dont get accurate feedback and results. Who knows maybe down the line they will of made a bunch of changes and draw you back

  • Marc_go_solo
    Marc_go_solo Member Posts: 5,347

    Both from a killer and survivor perspective, SBMM was far better for me. Sure, as killer it was more challenging, but I rose to it and if anything feel quite happy that the game thought my skills were good enough to be at that caliber - also got decent results that felt well-earnt!

    I'm looking forward to it returning.

  • fogdonkey
    fogdonkey Member Posts: 1,567

    Again. If the killer gets to that point and can't handle it, the killer's rank will fall back and will get easier matches.

  • PigEmpress
    PigEmpress Member Posts: 79

    I loved SBMM. Games were fun and exciting.

    It seems to me that the most miserable in SBMM were the top rank players. The price of spending too much time in the game is that you will just have sweaty games. It's not fun - or fair - for players with worse ranks to get matched against a high rank killers/SWF that then continue to obliterate the match because of skill discrepancy.

  • danielmaster87
    danielmaster87 Member Posts: 9,766

    People don't like MMR because they're only getting half the picture. If you put high skill vs high skill, yes you're gonna sweat most of the time. But if we can take the data from these new equally skilled matches, we can use that to determine what perks or what maps are problematic. Things like that. But because the devs haven't given us any of those balance changes yet, people are complaining because they're only getting the back end of the whole thing.

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 8,998

    All that mmr did was make survivor more fun for me and killer less fun lol