5 years and survivors can still quick switch?

5 years & killers can still face camp? exactly. stop complaining.

Oh no!

It seems you posted in the wrong topic as that has nothing to do with what was posted.

I know the forums are hard to navigate, but you can do it!

I believe in you :3

It would be if we had load outs we could save 😉.

Can't you just leave? They randomly last minute swapped to 2 keys, so I was like... "nah" and closed the application. I loaded back in without any penalty as far as I could tell.

Survivors are purely cosmetic. Killers are not, so this one I can get behind.

I don't think it's a valid complaint at all, so sure, I guess I'm a dick.

Killers can see what survivors bring into the game ahead of time, but survivors shouldn't be allowed to switch their items? Are you actually kidding me? Do you want the devs to just hold your hands? Load into the game and just have evert survivor die? Not everything is about screwing killers over, even though you all seem to think it is.

Been asking for saved loadouts for awhile now T3T

Same

Because nothing is enough for killers?

Because killers already have a huge advantage. They can see survivors, items, and adjust. Why do they need even more help?

DbD mobile is a different game, with different mechanics, a different dev team, and so on. What they do is not relevant to the DbD we're talking about.

Look, right on cue, just like I said:

Yes, I know killers can be toxic too, but I'm talking about survivors, not killers, and DbD, not DbD mobile. Let's stay on-topic.

Survivors were never meant to see the killer or their perks? Killer can't see survivor perks. All they see is a character and some items. How does a killer know they're about to face a sabo squad? They don't. They can see a toolbox and assume there's a bnp in there or add ons for sabo but they only see a toolbox. But sabo squads are completely out of a killers control - especially if they bring saboteur but that's not what this discussion is about so I digress.

I haven't played this game since 2016 but I imagine that's what was intended. The killer can see the "prey" to know who they're hunting and survivors logically don't know who the hunter is whilst they're the prey and that was supposed to be the horror part of the game. Obviously this has changed a great deal since then. The game is no longer hide and seek and more calling each other morons because they can't loop for longer than 30 seconds.

If it is about prep and not choice then how can a killer prep in time if a survivor last second swaps at the 6 second mark? Realistically, how they can prep as soon as 6 seconds hits but survivors literally have all the time in the world? Survivor items can really change and alter the game and I think that flies over people's heads quite frequently. If there's 4 flashlights and you don't face the wall perfectly, a survivor can potentially blind you from an unknown angle. So much of these flashlight saves cost the killer the game. This has never happened to me but I do know sometimes it can be so bad you barely get any hooks because a survivor goes down out in the open. This usually leads to killer playing like an ######### then survivors in post game chat are toxic because you played like an ######### because they decided to last second switch to 4 flashlights. Now if the killer had time to prep, he could've put on Franklin's or Lightborn so survivors would get to have the items they want into play and killer can just go on about the match trying to play it as normally as possible. Survivors don't aim to give the killer a good time when they last second swap, it's basically signaling to the killer, "######### you, we're gonna bring what we want and make sure there's nothing you can do about it so we don't have to worry about Franklin's or Lightborn ruining our plays or bully attempts." At least to me, that is the message that comes with last second swapping.

These last second switches only breed toxicity.

The mindgames start as soon as you're in a lobby.

While I agree keys should be fixed sooner rather than later, I have to agree with that last sentiment. I often get the impression that the killers on this forum think they deserve a 4k every game, or there's something inherently wrong with the game balance.

With the hatch offering, you know where(likely) the hatch will be, though. AND you see its aura when available. If you haven't already killed anyone and you suspect there's a play for hatch afoot, you can stand by it and deny most of them the opportunity.

This forum is a horrible survey pool, you shouldn't take updoots on the forums with any grain of serious opinion. At best this is a very biased poll of people who can sometimes get around theor biases. But more often than not it's a bunch of kids whinging about what's fair and unfair in a video game designed around taking advantage of various circumstances.

Wasn't the reason cause killers have different mmr, for each individual killer, while survivors are all the same so it doesn't really matter.

Yes but for both sides, killer and survivor then it would be fair.

Lockout should include both items and perks. You set up your build pre-queue, then once you are in the lobby, regardless if survivor or killer, you play with that build.

still not trying to argue how your points don't make any sense.

Killers and survivors aren't equal, though. There are four survivors and one killer. That's why killers get powers, time to adjust their loadout, and so on, while survivors don't get to know who the killer is.

Victims don't stalk their killer. Start to think of this in slasher terms and you'll understand why survivors and killers get different benefits.

@Nathan13

Deserve to get tunneled to death? Do you know how many survivors get tunneled to death in this game without a key in play?

Stop acting like quick switching is game breaking.