Just remove ranks altogether.
First of all, DBD is NOT a competitive game.
I don't understand why we have ranks that doesn't mean ######### anymore.
Survivors bring Red keys, maps and OP offerings, 24/7. Killers bring Iris, moris and Black Ward 24/7.
What's the point in reaching Rank 1 when you literally spend thousands or even millions of BP to get the best perks, offerings, addons and items?
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They actually plan removing the ranks once the skill based matchmaking goes live.
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I definitely agree, they brought back the rank matching after 'test running' the skill based match making... Which was NOT skill based. Being newer even when they added the "skill based" I always was against killers that were OP compared to me and I SUCK at the game...
Now that the ranks are back, people attack myself and my friends because we are rank 8 and 11 and they say we suck and throw shade. This NEEDS to go ASAP... The people we play with are TOXIC over ranks.
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I think ranks makes it worse, to be honest. People think it means something so they play selfishly. I am constantly shocked by how bad my red and purple rank teammates are.
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You aren't wrong there though... The skill based matching was better than ranks... It is hard to get into decent matches and not have toxic players through steam. I hate being attacked constantly. I will openly admit that I suck because I only have a couple weeks under my belt, I am learning what I like... But yeah, we have played a few with ranks higher than us and yet they were equally bad, if not worse. :\
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Technically the game is competitive but also not. Its not like a sports game style of competitive though.
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I don't want a newbie with 10 hours going up against someone who reached rank 1, no matter how often you say "rank doesn't matter" and "DbD isn't a competitive game".
DbD is a competitive game. People compete against each other and most of them try to win by any means necessary.
As for rank, it's not the perfect indicator of skill, but someone who reaches rank 1 is probably a little more skilled than someone who just started playing. For the sake of player retention, it's important to separate newbies from more experienced players.
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Ummmm sorry. I think you got things mixed up.
(1) Just because people play competitively, it doesn't make the game competitive.
I can competitively milk cows, but that doesn't make cow milking a competitive field of work.
(2) And also, when have you ever seen a fair competitive game that allowed people to bring pre-purchased items that boosts their performance? I mean, talk about bringing a gun into a knife fight, how can you see that mechanic and still argue that DBD is a competitive game?
Here's the list of the most popular competitive games in 2021:
- Fortnite
- PUBG
- League of Legends
- Overwatch
- Street Fighter
You see what DBD does that those games DON'T do?
I'll let you figure that one out.
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Assuming a skill based system in a game where the maps and resources on said maps are down to RNG is even going to work, which it won’t
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This is why I almost always play without addons and items. I guess this is why I can't get higher than green ranks on surv and purple ranks on killer.
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I mean moris was nerfed. Black wards just protect addons they own anyway so even without it you can verse the same build..
While ranking is bad and does mean very little atm, I'd rather it not get even worse because we just remove it. What you think are bad players in red ranks just imagine lower ranked players in say rank 20?
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People are actually giving this bait post the time of day?
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I can competitively milk cows, but that doesn't make cow milking a competitive field of work.
Now you're just equivocating. Your example would be like saying that video gaming as a whole is not competitive. PvP games are inherently competitive because you have players competing against players in a zero-sum game. That's just a fact of life.
And also, when have you ever seen a fair competitive game that allowed people to bring pre-purchased items that boosts their performance?
Yes, actually, like card games. Not DbD, though. Paid killers aren't better than free killers. Hell, the best killer in the game (Nurse) is 100% free, you don't even need to spend shards to get her. If you're referring to perks, there's always the Shrine - it's not perfect, but it works.
You see what DBD does that those games DON'T do?
I'll let you figure that one out.
As soon as you address why newbies should be matched against players with hundreds, sometimes thousands of hours, I'll think about it. And don't say they'd be matched according to play time, because that's just another type of matchmaking using hours as ranks.
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removing ranks means losing players imagine when you first started game played with a hardcore swf group instead of new players and its being happening frequently or just imagine a good killer is instantly downing you in 10 secs bc you are new.
Ranks are needed if ranks are gone it means something else probably SBMM replaced it both ways game tries to put you in a level which is what it should be
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Once again, you're missing the point.
Just because a game is PVP, it doesn't mean that the game is competitive.
Hell, there are plenty of casual PVP games and they're NOT designed to be competitive, regardless of how people play.
and when did I say that video gaming was non-competitive as a whole?
If the game is designed to be competitive, then it is.
Such case is League of Legends.
DBD on the other hand is clearly not.
If I was playing Tracer in Overwatch and was given 4 blinks instead of 3, had 50 more ammo, 2 pulse bombs than the enemy Tracer, that no longer classifies the game as a "competitive" game. Since both players are not on the same playing field.
If fairness and equality is thrown out the window, then how can you call a game competitive?
and trust me, the system will easily differentiate newbies from proficient players. It doesn't take a PHD to find the difference.
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My point was that DBD at this STATE should get rid of ranks.
If you want to keep ranks, then remove all the assets that boosts your performance such as perks, items, addons and offerings that you can purchase before a match begins.
I don't think my logic is too difficult to grasp.
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tbh I still don't think ı've understand your point but which state doesn't matter ranks have a purpose and it is not being competetive it is for players to have fun more. Nobody enjoys getting destroyed, you play someone you can beat you enjoy it
All of the items and stuff with ranks what kind of bond you created there is the thing I can't understand
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I'll put it simple.
If you buy anything in a competitive game it'll most likely be either of two things:
(1) Cosmetic items.
(2) An ingame item you buy during a match.
(1) applies to almost all games nowadays.
(2) applies to LoL, DOTA, Apex, PUBG or any other competitive games you can imagine.
DBD only follows (1) and not (2) and that makes a HUGE problem.
If I played a fighting game, I should be playing someone else who is on the same playing field. If my character had boosted stats thanks to some item I bought before hand, how in the hell do you consider that fair? And I repeat, if you throw fairness and equality out the window, how can you call it a competitive game?
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More importantly, I was always under the impression that It's an asymmetrical horror film simulator. I remember back then, people joked about the idea of there being tournaments and stuff, because it was so far removed from what DBD is. When you watch a horror movie, it's not exactly FAIR is it? There's nothing quite like DBD, it's not meant to be reduced to the same quotas as every other game. Hell, there isn't even a proper wincon or fail state.
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DBD was never intended to be competitive.
The devs said it themselves that the concept was conceived when they wanted to simulate a horror, hide & go-seek game for everyone to enjoy and have fun.
And now in 2021, it's all about "Keys OP" "Nerf Moris" "Screw SWFs" "Buff Solo Q".
and yet they still argue DBD is "competitive". SMH
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But it worked for most of the playerbase.
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Devs doesn't consider the game as a competetive game and they said they don't want to do that
I understand what are you trying to say about the items having them beforehand is wrong you say it is a bad competetive design so ranks shouldn't be there
I think ranks are not here to make game more competetive as I told earlier it is there because it makes more fair to play yet it is imposiblle to make this game fair what you ask to be happen is making everything equal but that's not the game also not going to be
Items can cause a huge problem for killers but there is also killers no matter what you do you can't beat a decent one (spirit,nurse) you can't make fair any of these even maps are not fair for both sides
In the end Ranks are needed what you want is to make game more fair which is also needed but impossible ( at least i think this is waht you want from what ı ve understand)
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In LoL you still have to buy champions to play them. Literally no different than dbd in that regards.
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