We have temporarily disabled Baermar Uraz's Ugly Sweater Cosmetic (all queues) due to issues affecting gameplay.

Visit the Kill Switch Master List for more information on this and other current known issues: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/articles/299-kill-switch-master-list
It's stats time! Sign up for our newsletter with your BHVR account by January 13 to receive your personalized 2024 Dead by Daylight stats!

Get all the details on our forums: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/436478/sign-up-now-to-receive-a-recap-of-your-2024-dead-by-daylight-stats/p1?new=1

Is Plague in a good spot or...?

Honestly, I love Plague. I'm not good at her but I admire the people who are.

But while I was practicing Plague I can't help feeling helpless. Playing against a really good Plague can feel suffocating at times but most of the time it's not very hard.

I feel as Plague is a bit weak for the effort it takes to throw into her. For example Nurse is widely considered the strongest killer and that honestly matches the amount of practice a player will need to put into her.

Another example is Spirit, another strong killer but this time many people complain about her because although she's strong the effort needed to spend on her is lower than Nurse.

Now going back to my point, Plague (in my opinion) is pretty difficult to play efficiently as. Her early game is extremely weak and she MUST spend time infecting as many survivors as possible I order to even begin her snowball potential. Her early game is so important to the point where if you fail to infect enough survivors quick enough you'll fall behind quick. She's a difficult killer but the effort being put into her just does not feel justified with how strong she is.

Do you guys feel as if she needs some sort of small rework? Or just buffs? Or is she fine?

Comments

  • Volcz
    Volcz Member Posts: 1,188

    lol

  • RenDesune
    RenDesune Member Posts: 246

    Yeah I witnessed the bugs, annoying. I guess ill keep trying. Ready for my next 4 man survivor escape while being t-bagged at gate :^)

  • Altarf
    Altarf Member Posts: 1,046

    The only change I'd make to Plague is something that irks me - the overflow mechanic when all fountains are corrupted. I hate this mechanic with a passion, because it's very stressful and annoying to have to manage your corrupt pools against a team of cleansers so you don't end up overflowing and losing your snowball pool. I like playing with a mix of Vile and Corrupt Purge, rather than only Corrupt Purge and just becoming a better Nemesis that has to constantly run all over the map to reload their projectile.

    Instead of automatically triggering Corrupt Purge, when all fountains are corrupted, it should work like Main Event where for a short window (10-15~ seconds) you can choose whether or not to activate Corrupt. If you do, then it works as it does now, and if you don't, one random pool becomes corrupted.

  • Altarf
    Altarf Member Posts: 1,046


    Usually a cooldown reduction like Healing Salve or Incensed Ointment. I don't really have a preference for specific add-ons, though; Plague doesn't rely on add-ons to begin with and almost all of her add-ons are helpful in some way, and very well balanced to avoid just one set being superior. The only really bad add-ons she has are the duration amulets because they have very bad values, but aside from that every add-on has a decent effect.

    Personally, I use Rubbing Oil and Incensed Ointment for matches where I'm properly trying to win. Rubbing Oil feels very nice to use and is probably her strongest add-on, but I don't normally like whipping it out unless it seems like I'm against a good team because it's not an add-on you want to use every game. It's a little like Scalped Topknot or Flower Babushka, you don't want to get used to it and become unable to play the default killer. Apples are also fun, but do next to nothing against cleansers which feel like most of my Plague games these days.

    Oh, yeah, and Iridescent Seal is fun too. Iridescent Seal Plague plays completely differently, though, and can be punishing at times, but there's nothing more satisfying than pre-infecting many survivors working on a gen with a long-range arcing vomit, and then getting Corrupt as they finish it in your face and decimating their entire team. It's a thing only Plague can really do, and is exhilarating.

  • Rey_512
    Rey_512 Member Posts: 1,620
    edited September 2021

    Make one change to corrupt purge once all fountains have been used by survivors:

    Instead of activating automatically, provide the Plague a 60 second window to activate Corrupt Purge at will. After the 60 seconds, if not yet activated, it will activate automatically like it does currently. During the 60 second window no sick survivors will be able to cleanse at fountains.

  • Warcrafter4
    Warcrafter4 Member Posts: 2,917

    She needs her game breaking bugs to be fixed before you can really judge her.

    As it currently stands her power barely works and desperately needs a rework to function properly on dedicated servers.

    Why a technical focused rework is her power works insanely weirdly, rapidly shooting out deathslinger like bullets instead of a stream with graphical illusions to try to fake a stream along with massive hit detection issues.

    She would work better on a technical side by simply making it a proper stream.

  • QwQw
    QwQw Member Posts: 4,531

    They need to fix her hitbox, but aside from that I'd say she's fine.

  • ThiccBudhha
    ThiccBudhha Member Posts: 6,987

    She seems a little more gimmicky than other killers, but I really vibe with it. She is really fun to play while you are just chilling and not trying to 4k.

  • lechero1125
    lechero1125 Member Posts: 28

    She is ok with solo que games also terrible to against SWF.

  • C3Tooth
    C3Tooth Member Posts: 8,266

    If all fountains are Corrupted, they will not getting reset. Thats all the buff she need.

    For me, if Plague refuse to consume Corrupt fountain, with all that time to build up all Survivors infected and cleanse 5 times. She's deserve to have all Survivors being exposed. She's still an M1 killer at that time anyway.

    Currently, you either have Survivors dont cleanse at all, or they cleanse too fast that you dont realize it and all fountains reset. Her power is controlled by Survivors too much.

  • Aurelle
    Aurelle Member Posts: 3,611

    She needs her bugs fixed before anything. But other than that, she does need a slight buff.

    The main issue is that the survivors have too much control over her power (Refusing to cleanse/Cleansing until the fountains are reset). I think Corrupt Purge needs a slight change like: If all fountains are used, Instead of automatically activating Corrupt Purge, Plague can hold Corrupt Purge and activate it at any time.

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    Her fountains need to reset. Managing infected survivors is a large part of her skill ceiling, and something people need to learn. Infecting everyone all the time is a bad idea and it should be punished.

    And the reason for that is becuase her fountain reset encourages people to cleanse. A good Plague capitalises on that via proper fountain management. A bad Plague gets reset and feeds into the cycle of hopeful mass-cleansing.

    Not to mention the fact that it's occasionally extremely beneficial to get your power mid-chase, especially if you managed your fountains correctly, forcing them to cleanse close to you, a tactic that it especially useful against cocky SWF teams.

  • IlliterateGenocide
    IlliterateGenocide Member Posts: 6,030

    honestly this would make it even more less likely for survivors to cleanse.

  • steezo_de
    steezo_de Member Posts: 1,214

    The only thing I want them to do with her is increase the BP you get from playing her as well as playing against her.

  • SirGando
    SirGando Member Posts: 374

    Pallet stuns should not cancel the red puke imo. Its to harsh. Maybe just decrease the timer a bit.