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Remove unlimited tier 3 for michael
He’s op as it is no need to have a unlimited tier it makes it unfair to survivor just make it add that increases the chances of tier 3 from less stalking
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Have you played Myers before? It takes a while for it to be infinite. You or your teammates fed him stalk.
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Not if you run the J Myers memorial with the tuft of hair. You can get it reasonably quick then.
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Okay. You confused me because that increases the amount needed to reach tier III. Not the rate lmao.
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Regardless of their stance on the addon, not many people will take your seriously when you open your request with the claim that basekit Myers is OP.
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I personally think it's fun to go against and it's super rare to go against so don't see the point in complaining tbh.
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People really overestimate the amount of time it takes to give him stalk to infinite tier three. It really isn't that long
Please stop acting like survivors need to be out of LOS permanently against Myers when that's unrealistic. They're going to be seen and it's dramatic to pretend that it takes ages to get infinite tier three when it doesn't. Especially putting on slowdowns as Myers makes infinite tier 3 a walk in the park unless it's a map like The Game or Léry's
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Huh. Then why does it take so long until last gen then usually, hm?
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new players: god i hate myers he is so over powered ;(
red rank players : ohh its myers .. ok lets have fun free 4 escape
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The irony is he brings home more kills than most of the killers in red ranks.
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Yeah, I don't get it. I did Infinite Tier 3 three games in a row to do the "Hit 12 exposed survivors" challenge and both times I got Tier 3 with 5 gens left and my only slowdown was Corrupt. One was on Lery's, another Ormond and third was Ironworks with plenty of obstacles and walls. If it was Infinite + Tombstone, then I can understand people saying it takes forever, but Infinite is just like full stalk on 2 survivors.
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Oh right, because Big data ever proved anything...
Pig is OP and Nurse sucks yay.
Mayers have decent kill rate, only because noone plays him without addons. He is really bad without them and he gets free kills with tombstone add-ons.
If OP tried to complain against tombstone, then sure. But infinite is not that big deal really. Just don't be bad and don't heal against infinite. I have seen so many survivors heal against infinite...
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Have you heard of the achievement 'Evil Incarnate' ? It's were Mikey has to mori all 4 survivors with his power and there for infinite T3 most likely won't go away.
I would like for it to, but that achievement will keep that add on alive.
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and you stop acting like infinite is big deal.
Just don't heal, do gens and don't be greedy on pallets.
Tombstone addons are big deal, but even they can be countered. If I see Myers stalking too long, then I will never give him option for mori. Just go to locker, vault something, work on gen. When you are in any animation, he can't mori you, because he will just normally grab you instead.
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Welcome to DBD new players.
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I don't care so much about infinite tier 3, I care that he doesn't even have to down you to mori you, doesn't even have to hook you ONCE to mori you. That's wild man.
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Michael Myers has to be at the moment one of the most underpowered killers in Dead By Daylight, however he is one of the most fun to play this is why he has such a high play rate. Removing the Infinite T3 is like removing Bubba's Chainsaw, or Ghostface's Mask because Infinite T3 is iconic to Michael not just in DbD but in the entire world of Horror.
When it takes so long for him to get T3 you and your team are probably sat there laughing at him being bad until the T3 pops and he insta-downs someone. Your remaining team sit there hiding and waiting for the music to chime indicating that they're safe however it never comes and slowly he knocks everyone and eventually kills them. This is so fitting to Michael Myers and the reason he is so fun to play, playing him is like being Michael Myers in the first Halloween stalking Laurie and her friends until you slowly start picking them off 1 at a time.
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Sorry but half the roster is stronger at base than Myers is with Tuft, no need nerfed.
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Cool your jets. I was not saying these stats prove he is an A tier killer or something. It was just a simple response to the remark that red ranks can think they have an easy time when they get Mikey when in actuality he's one of the better performing killers who's not struggling to get kills in the red ranks.
Its an irony because he performs better than most.
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He performs better than most for same reason as Pig. He has way to get kill even if he sucks.
Problem is that it doesn't work that well in red ranks, so I don't know anyone who doesn't like Daddy Myers.
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What way is that? Tombstone? You're kidding yourself if you think most of his kills in red ranks come from tombstone. There would be an outcry of tombstone epidemic if that was the case.
What doesn't work well in red ranks? Are you talking about tombstone again? The method I am assuming you just said is how he performs so well in red ranks?
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Pig the real OP killer need nerf. Those mean very little in all honestly except that kill rates is basically just a measure of how hard a killer is to play
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If they ever actually buff Myers to make him viable in the current state of the game then id be fine with him losing some of his stronger addons like Tombstone peice and tuft of hair but until then I dont mind since he's easily in the bottom 5 or 6 killers for me.
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It only takes a long time if you accompany it with Tombstone. Otherwise it's a walk in the park and sounds more of like a skill issue if you can't get it activated quickly unless you just got a bad map for it (like what I stated before).
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What about the fragrant tuft add on which is the infinite tier III? I'm assuming he's talking about that which takes a bit.
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Tuft hair only does not make it that difficult to get permanent tier 3. I'm gonna sound like a total noob here, but people underestimate the strength of lockers against a myers in T3. They simply do not check it and tuft hair alone is also hella rare imo.
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I know, we need to start booping more snoots in order to stop her. Once again I am not saying these stats reflect who is the real A-tier killers. Not saying that at all. The reason I posted it was simply to show that Mikey is one of the killers who performs really well in red ranks because someone said red rank survivors think they are in for an easy time when they get him. When in actuality the red rank Mikey players out there are doing well with him. That doesn't mean he is A-tier or doesn't need buffs.
I also wouldn't say these stats show how hard killers are to play. For example Billy and Oni are more difficult to play than say Plague and Clown, but they have much better kill rates than both of them. In Nurse's case however its definitely a skill level difficulty.
When MMR comes along, a chart like that is going to look VERY different.
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He doesn't work in red ranks overall. Daddy Myers, no matter what he brings.
Mainly, because it is rare for you to get free stalking. So you don't get tier III that fast and there are survivors who will be able to run you for that duration and you didn't really have time to find weak link.
Do you consider Daddy Myers good killer?
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Obviously he does work in red ranks since he's got one of the better kill rates in red ranks. Furthermore I am a red rank Mikey main and consistently do well with him. So I am saying to you that you are wrong on that. Now when MMR hits that may be a different story. And not just for Mikey but most killers. But right now he is and always has been very viable in red ranks.
Its easy to get stalk. I don't know what kind of super immersed players you get but I never have any issues getting to tier 3. Ever. I consider Mikey a decent killer. Not great but not terrible. He's certainly not the worst. He's not even in the bottom five.
If you're interested watch Scott Jund's video on him countering all the usual criticisms you see regarding him;
No I am not posting that because "Big streamer said it so it must be right". Its a great comprehensive video that goes into great detail on it and verbalizes why Mikey is decent and not even close to the worst far more than I could in a post.
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I am not saying he is worst killer, but he is bad killer.
I am Legion main (worst killer by Scott) and I can do 4k in most of my games in red ranks, but that just doesn't mean anything. It just means that red ranks are not always good survivors.
It was way different during SBMM tho... I am not looking forward that.
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He literally needs to get half of the total stalk available(20 out of 40) in the game for perma T3.
He has to fully stock 2 survivors or half stalk from all 4 or fully stack one person and half stalk 2 others.
That is 3 Tier threes worth of stalk to get it online and the game should be long over vs an M1 killer by then.
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Then you're contradicting yourself. You were just trying to argue that you can't win in red ranks with him and now you turn around and say red ranks doesn't always have good survivors because you can constantly do well with Legion.
I've been doing well consistently for nearly 4 years with him. I can name several other red rank Mikey mains I watch on Twitch or YouTube who always do well with him too if you want to check out their content for proof.
Whatever reasons you want to believe for that the outcome is still the same. People can and do win with him regularly in red ranks. It's just flat out false to say you cannot.
Yes I agree MMR will be a much tougher time for anyone who is not Nurse, Spirit, or Blight. But I look forward to it. I enjoyed my Mikey games during the last MMR test. It felt more rewarding when I beat teams of competent survivors. Hopefully it will wake Bhvr up to giving buffs to the rest of the killer roster. Because kill rates are going to drop.
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It would only be over if you ran absolutely no slowdowns and/or you just got a bad map where survivors can break LOS almost always i.e. Léry's/The Game etc.
Most maps have a lot of open areas and so stalking someone isn't hard. I've gone against it, I've done it, it's not hard to do at all on most maps. People are being dramatic about how long it takes.
People also forget he has add ons to increase stalk rate as well.
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Can he get unlimited tier 3 without stalking all survivors? I played one and he only stalked 2 of my teammates and got it in like 5 minutes.
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1) Myers has the WORST early game of all killers.
2) He's a simple M1 killer.
3) Don't let him stalk you. Ever.
4) Don't waste time healing vs Perma EWIII. You are 1shot anyways.
5) DO GENS!!!!!!!
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He performs "better" because he is an "either kill everything or lose everything" type of killer. Either you get 1k or you get 4. And then there is the power that is cocky survivors.
How often have I seen tbaggers or what else because they "think" they will have an ez match? Often. It was quite similar with old Freddy 3 years ago. You got bullied, but you could still win because of exactly that. But old Freddy was still teh worst killer back then.
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So when paired with JT you probably have to stalk them all I assume?
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Do you forget he's only a m1 killer he has nothing else that helps him with loops plus it takes forever to get that tier 3
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If anything I’d buff him so you could still mori people if they jump into lockers.
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I've been a Myers main for over four years now. He most definitely is not an either 1k or 4k killer. I have my share of matches where I'll get a 2-3k depending on the circumstances like which map I get, what perks are the survivors running, is it a swf etc.
Cocky survivors can be their own downfall for any killer. Under estimating your killer is the biggest mistake you can make.
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is this a troll post? who ever said t3 was op
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It's just what I noticed when I play Myers. I used to main him too, 2.5 years ago. I still like him, but I guess I am a bit rusty or favor a playstyle that results in either 1 or 4k.
And yes, underestimating any killer tends to lead to your downfall. I just noticed that many people straight of disrespect weaker killers like Myers or Pig like they did back then with old Freddy.
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I probably would have to use a full on gen slowdown build cause leveling up to tier 3 with JT and infinite takes soooo much time.
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