dead hard should be deleted from the game all together for it's abuse at extending chases
The whole perk is a 40 seconds second chance perk that the survivors can use endlessly, the killer outplayed you? HA ######### you I press E and you got outplayed, omg you will catch me! don't mind me pressing E and reach the pallet/window I shouldn't have reached extending the chase for X/Y seconds, oh you trapped the doorway, HA ######### you i'll run over it, you plan to shock the ground on my feet to stop me from using the pallet? ha ######### you i'll totally ignore your power and drop it anyway, i'll run back into you and dash at your body but your weapon dissapeared during it, I'll 99% my healing and loop you until I use dead hard to reach a pallet and heal while you break it making it a 3 health state chase.
This perk is beyond broken and OP in every single way when using at the right places, yes it's totally useless when used in the open, the killer just have to wait it out, but in loops, this perk is simply overpowered, it should either be nerfed hardcore like it should or be removed/changed, it's simply too strong.
And every high rank survivors who are the most skilless ones use this perk because they are so bad they can't live without a second chance perk, talk about bieng insecure about their skills, gotta use a jailfree card if they ######### up.
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Less dead hard means more sprint burst. Lesser of two evils.
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First off, they aren't abusing the perk if they are using what it's intended for.
Second, if skillless survivors are the one using dead hard against you, you should have no issue downing then because they have no skills.
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Just wait it out once you know they have it....
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Learn what 'abuse' or exploits are before using them in a sentence. The perk is broken, sure, mostly in how unreliable it is. If it's your end-all enemy in a trial, you've got other issues as a killer.
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I disagree
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Laughs in Deathslinger, Nurse, Hell even Clown.
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Dead hard is dumb people don't seem to realize that survivors using sprint burst either have to 99 it or walk everywhere all match which In turn makes up for the 3 seconds of distance they made. Dead hard is on demand and I can't counter it, if we're in a position where the dash gives them a vault or a pallet. That's a lose lose situation. Which should only be created by misplay not a perk and map terrain.
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Dead Hard just straight up doesn’t work for dodging a hit most of the time. If you don’t use it for distance to make it safely to a pallet/window, you can’t use it at all. So if they’re gonna nerf it, they need to make it do something else first.
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You said it, "when using at the right places," just like everything else.
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Crow do you literally go on any dh post and just defend it like your life depends on it?
Also idk if it was you who talked about Sprint being right behind it, Sprint burst isn't even on the table since you get the choose when you dead hard and not when you sprint burst. If you're forced to run it uses
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I think DH is usually the more annoying perk than SB on a single survivor but I'd prefer going against 4 DH than 4 SB if that makes sense
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I love how they can jump over traps with it too
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play more and complain less! ;)
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Give me the sprint burst cause atleast I'll know to just chase someone else while they run into the middle of nowhere away from gens.
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No it was not me. I'll take SB over Dead hard any day
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Be better and stop using second chances perks
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Your complaining about his complaining, complainer
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It's a good perk. I like it both as a killer and a survivor.
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You totally don't play killer enough or high enough to think that
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Lol Jesus. It’s dead hard lol not the end of your world.
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Dead hard isn't a second chance perk. It's meant to be an extender hence the dash forward. It's literally a one trick pony. You know who has it the first time they use it, just bait it. Tip: While in chase as you catch up, shake your mouse or analog (whatever you use) and watch how many people dead hard because they think you're going for a hit. It works 98% of the time.
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I mean I'm doing it right now
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Okay Mary Poppins
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I mean you are devotion 2, you are still really new.
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Sprint Burst is better (to me) as map traversal than as a run extender, but I'm just a killer main: I'm biased when I play survivor toward anything that lets me cover distance, the loops will work out even without a SB.
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'Dead hard is awful and anyone who disagrees with me is wrong. It's broken.'
'Actually you said you don't mind it but you don't play Killer at all.'
'Actually you do play killer but you're still too new to have an opinion.'
Hypothetically speaking if I were a proper devotion level what would your counter argument have been? Or was that the end of the line? What is your devotion level pray tell?
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Just do bones
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Best counter argument of this post so far
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Lol I'm just being goofy. I do think Dead Hard needs a nerf/change. Maybe you need to earn the ability to DH somehow, like spending enough time evading the killer or a safe unhook/protection hit.
It would still cause exhaustion of course
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pfft dead hard extending chases, i laugh.
You obviously havent meet survivors who 99 there Sprint Burst.
i can tell you struggle with the game.
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Good question, let's ask the crickets.
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idc about sprint burst in anyway, yea 99% sprint burst can be annoying but whatever, dead hard is more of a pain than SB ever will be.
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its not hard baiting the person to use dead hard, sure they will use it for distance but eventually half way thru the game pallets gone and dead hard for distance is useless
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i'd simply think you don't experience it enough in the worst ways possible as a killer, you are devotion 2 with means you most likelyt have like 300 hours or something of experience into the game, you haven't played enough to truly understand why this perk is problematic.
IF you were high devotion than you would have been one of the few killers which really doesn't care about DH but you'd be the minority of killers who doesn't (most likely)
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So in this hypothetical, where I'd hit all the parameters that would be a perfect counter and contrary to your argument, your final stand would be 'You have to be a statistical anomaly and therefore what you say doesn't matter.'
There was no world where a contrary opinion was valid then?
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It’s a necessary evil as long as the devs refuse to address camping and tunneling
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Removing the perk is too much.
I think removing the dash and leaving only the iframes would be more fair.
The dash is too abused for correcting bad positioning, mistakes and reaching pallet/windows before getting hit.
And for the people saying that sprint burst would replace dead hard as meta, just equip mindbreaker, it's a good counter.
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It's too strong at the right hands ( and if they're not console), I agree. Sprint Burst can at least be cut off. You can't do anything with a survivor with DH that has a planned routing. You're going to eat it.
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Just dropping in to say that I have almost 900 hours in the game and am devotion 2 level 98. I've hit rank 1 in both roles for many months in a row before I quit playing (started playing again a couple months ago). What's with this random "you haven't played enough" "you don't have enough hours" gatekeeping on having an opinion? Kinda rude to try to "defeat" someone's point by basically calling them a noob and that they don't have enough experience.
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I use dead hard all the time on survivor its my favorite survivor perk because it simply makes me feel like I have a third health state and when I get injured I am not afraid at all. Its not the most balanced perk in my opinion it is very very strong. I only really use it because when I try other things my I usually don't last as long, I only play solo so hopefully, I will get better teammates from the new system so I don't have to rely on myself.
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If you're struggling with dead hard, you're struggling with almost every exhaustion perk that's not natural balance, sprint burst, lithe and probably smash hit too. Dead hards been a part of the game for a hot minute and I'll never understand why Killers complain about it when you can Bait it out or even use other killers that can just snipe you; I.E: Huntress, Pyramid head, Deathslinger, (Recently) Cenobite, Twins, Plague, Nemesis, Nurse, Doctor, Hag (With correct Trap placement.) The only killers that suffer are Primary M1 Killers like Freddy, Trapper, Wraith, Billy, Myers, and I'm pretty sure the spirit.
It's Kinda MEANT to be a Second chance perk if played right and that would be like me complaining about killers using infectious fright or some other perk MEANT to find/seek out the location of other survivors; wouldn't make sense cause it's doing it's job. Not to mention that if you're suffering at loops- B r e a k C h a s e. People seem to forget that they shouldn't be hellbent on getting one survivor alone the entire match which is what causes EVERYONE to De-pip. The moment you get pissed off at the game is the moment you'll start playing badly, killer or survivor.
:sadge:
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fact
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I complain about dead hard, not other perks, SP might be a perk people complain about but I see more post about DH than SB.
I have no issues with other exhaustion perks, I simply hate how DH can extend a chase for idk how long while the other perks might extended for half as long compared to how DH can extend it
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Sprint burst doesn't allow you to choose when yo get the distance and be immune from dmg. get out of here you survivor noob
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Sprint Burst means nothing to S tier killers like Nurse, Spirit, Blight and Hag.
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My problem is with the i-frames. Nothing else gives i-frames so why does this perk?
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I can honestly say I have never used dead hard. No point in me using it when I am crappy at looping a killer. However I have seen many of my fellow survivors abuse it. Besides most of the time I try to cleanse bones.
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Borrowed time, Decisive Strike, Dead hard are really annoying survivor perks
Just like BBQ and chili, NOED, Blood Warden, are pretty op Killer perks.
its just a bunch of madness, what i see on these forums is tons of whining about people who cant get kills, or get killed.
kind of sucks
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No.
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Dead hard inferior IMO. I use SB with Vigil, I pretty much have it on demand in all my games lol. Even better is that I recover SB mid chase, giving me the WAY more distance than DH ever could I love it
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