SBMM is totally fair!

How many hours in the game overall, how much of that on killer? Or anything comprehensible of your overall game experience?

Just showing this (btw censor the other names to apply forum rules) is worthless. You could be a whatever main with several thousand of hours and just had a bad day.

So i would guess you don't know how a normal elo system works in online games.

They don't start people of at 0 but for example in online chess everybody starts with an elo of 1500 (the best players having something around 2500).

Now your doctor stands at 1800-2000 or something and normally the other killer start at 1500 which then gets increased to something like 1600 to compensate for your overall accumulated game knowledge.

While i don't know if any of those number are even remotely correct or in the right dimension, behaviour never said that you would start with the other killers at 0. And playing a new killer against what amounts to rank 20 as a rank 1 doc won't help and not be fun for the survivor.

It SHOULD place you with new killers against something like the equivalent of high green/low purple but in another thread it is speculated that MMR is based on trial length and kill/escape rates. If that is true then i guess that the data they collected prior with the old MMR is screwing many people over given that rank 1 was a mess of low skill/high playtime up to correct highskill players and killrates where highly inflated by that and trial were either gen focused short games or stomps by the killer and also too short.

Apparently the MMR of your best killer is inpacted on tve MMR of your other killers (take it with à grain of salt tho)

Okay then let me address your point how the hell do you know that those survivor have the same quality as the ones you encounter with doc?

Their perks, gameplay, hidden elo or what?

And if you know by for example playing lol like i do that such a fresh MMR system has still to triangulate itself and again for every new killer aka you will at first get better and worse survivor. To use my example again, your doc is 1800 and your pig gets rated at 1600 and the system gives you survivor at 1700. What is there to be surprised about?

And finally to your overall point that this is a sign that SBMMR is unfair, here is a picture of a match i had one or two weeks before SBMMR was implemented:

For clarity:

my killer rank should normally be somewhere in purple (never bothered to tryhard into reds) but i only play this game once a month or so at this point and after the reset bug in May in never climbed back up thanks to my survivor friendly playstyle of avoiding kills and maxing BP.

I suck at blight and played them for the third or fourth time.

So while the ranks seem correct you can't tell me that this is not a 4 men swf (profiles were ALL hidden, also a first for me) with 3 smurfs.

So tell me was this fair in the old system?

First of all expecting behaviour to keep any promise they make is delusional. They have shown time and time again that they a) their word and promises are worth scrap (see console optimization in the first year, early game improvement in the third year (and this nemesis perk is not a satisfying substitute), key changes several times and many other points) and b) the devs themselves don't even have the in-game knowledge that is up to par with even mediocre players and even moreso far from the top.

Second, my point is not the undisclosed MMR number but that maybe your pig and doc aren't as far apart as you think and that the survivor that are easy on your doc are of the same quality as the hard survivor for your pig. And both timer the opponent have the same elo difference from your killers but one time below and the other above.

My advice: don't play killer if you have only unlocked one perk on them. Try to get at least their three own perks to level 3 and put some addons on (even brown ones will suffice) and then maybe you won't get stomped.

SBMM doesn't take into account perks or addons because they're selected once the lobby is formed and that's a problem if you only have the basic stuff.

Few hours earlier i saw a streamer playing 4 man SWF. They all collectively have over 20k hours into the game, very experienced survivors.

2 games in a row they got a Blight with one Yellow perk and only 20 hours in game. Blight dcd after frustration, couldn't catch anyone.

Next they got a Spirit with 2 perks. 0 hooks and 2 hits the whole game.

SBMM working properly.

"So my only option is to wait and farm up a megaton of BP to level up my new killers with before I even get to play them?"

Is this not what everyone does anyway? Why would you play a level 1 killer at all unless it's literally your first time playing killer?

What do you mean by the levels seem pretty consistent? SBMM doesn't use the grade system for matching so they in essence mean nothing to the players' skill level.

I would also disagree with your assessment that it doesn't look lopsided by scores. They look low to me. With those scores I would assume he didn't hook many survivors so he got low scores for not being able to down enough survivors and they got low scores because there wasn't much opportunity for altruism.

Still completely disagree on scores. If I only got 16k or 18k on survivor with escaping, it means I didn't do much during the match, or couldn't because the killer couldn't down people. And 16k on killer is really low.

You absolutely cannot use grades to determine skill. They all reset to the lowest level every month. I could be a high MMR player but because I didn't play until the 10th of the month, I am going to have a relatively low grade compared to everyone else. And now you can't depip to a lower grade. Grades are even more about how much you play in a month and less about skill than ranks were.

So empathy and my experiences, hm?

My empathy tuns out when people have as if this game is the one and only and whine accordingly.

Fitting to that my experience? Especially with the new SBMMR? I don't have any. I don't know if I said it already in this thread but i play this game only very sporadically for the last 2-3, meaning once or twice a month if I am in the mood because while i like the concept and style of this game, which make it unique, i have a plethora of other games i like and still want to play.

I would get bored out of my mind playing one and the same game for more than a few hundred hours and can't comprehend many people playing a game for several thousand especially alone. The only games where I have hours even remotely close are world of warcraft and league of legends accumulated over 10 years (not 5 like people in DBD) and that also only because I had friends to play them with.

So neither my empathy nor experience match with most people here and I argument mostly from a logical standpoint not a subjective one, unlike many others that only vent their frustration while leaving logic and reasoning behind.