The original post isn't taking into account that those parts of it that are valid only mean that the killer is stronger than an individual survivor. You're up against 4 of these things. Sure, I can benchpress 100 pounds with ease. Doesn't mean that 100 pounds is so ignorable that I can benchpress 400 pounds easily.

@SirMurphAlot said:
Comparing there perks, powers and addons the killer is more versatile then a survivor.

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Wat.

Also wow the bias. Let's compare the strongest Killer Offering (that completely changes the game dynamics) to a couple of the weakest survivor offerings.

@SirMurphAlot That depends on the various skill levels of everyone though, I have seen survivors run circles around the best killers at different ranks, high and low

@SirMurphAlot That is fair enough however I believe that the killer should be OP to a certain extent. I like to be chased by this unstopable force of nature because it makes it more tense and scary when I am hiding but this is just how I play and everyone enjoys the game differently

@SirMurphAlot said:
@TheMidnightRidr wouldnt you get more points my way, if you mori them after the 1st hook you lose out on the next hook, plus it makes sense with a killer getting angry and killing the survivor themselves instead of wanting to hook them.

It just doesn't make any sense to mori a survivor if they were dead anyway. We're entitled to have our own opinions, I guess, and mine just conflicts with yours. Good day, friend.

@SirMurphAlot said:
@GodDamn_Angela what offerings would you pick

I wouldn't.

You won't be using "top-end" offerings every game. And other than that and BP offerings you are basically wasting your Offering whenever you use one as a Killer because they are 1:1 comparable to Survivors'. Which there are 4 of, mind you.

Other Mori Offerings are trash btw.

I would still like to know how a Killer is more versatile than a Survivor though.

@SirMurphAlot said:
@HellDescent the killer only has one goal kill the survivors, what other goal does he have? The equipment is limited if you use it up its gone, sure you can escape with it but i dont know about you but unless im bringing my purple offering with me its gone , cant heal yourself without either self care or a med kit, cough cough didnt get the point of my first post, and your point on killers relying on add on

So survivors just run to the killers? There are no chases, hooks, defending generators, totems and exit gates, map pressure? You can leave your item at 99% and not it will only stay with you but you'll get all the charges back on addons and items. Self care is not an item it's up to you if you want to bring it and you can be healed regardless by any of your teammates even faster.

SirMurphAlot said:

@Raccoon i know how i play and thats all, i see how much easier it is to be killer then survivor, you dont agree thats fine but your not convincing me, i gave my points and most of you disagreed, some of you gave your reasons and i respect that, others didnt offer anything besides a slight jab that i was wrong your opinions dont mean much at all.

@SirMurphAlot said:
I see alot of people complain the killer is weaker then survivors, I play both survivor and killer, and playing both i see the edge a killer has over the survivor, the killer has one real goal stopping and killing survivors and he has powers and perks with no real limitation with them to achieve the goal.
Survivors have numerous goals, do gens, dodge killer, help other survivors and escape and they have perks and equipment that are limited in some way to complete that goal. Comparing there perks, powers and addons the killer is more versatile then a survivor. They are faster by a longshot even the slowest killer can catch a survivor. So how is the killer weaker, i have more ruthless killers awards then successful escapes by a longshot.
I hear decisive strike is to overpowered, how? Its a one time use that you can miss, the most it can delay you is 16 seconds. Yet some very powerful killer perks like bbq and chilli have no cooldown at all. What about killer addons that stay until the game ends while survivor addons last until the item is used up. Offerings that allow a killer to kill a survivor that was hooked once(Should be twice) or increase the hook count by three when there everywhere already.
Heres something that always bothered me, why is it a survivor can jump off something high or even a foot high and be stunned for like a second but a killer jumps off the same height carrying a survivor but there are no ramifications for that? Nothing added to the wiggle meter, no stun for a second, just i jumped off prenn asylum carrying a full grown adult and im fine. Killers are overpowered, thats my take on survivors vs killers.

One thing i will say they should allow is a killer to grab a survivor that is delaying the end of the game by butt dancing at the gates exit kinda like being pulled off a gen.

Let me see if I can break down your points in a respectful manner. For this reason I will assume every paragraph is a point you have made. And please note that I've played survivor and killer. But I am a majority killer when I am not in a SWF match with my friends.

1. Survivors are weaker than killers on a one vs one. But this is a 1 vs 4. Killers may have powers but to say they have no limitations is straight up wrong. Especially on consoles where the frames are a wee bit worse. And poor Nurse is bent over because of it (not to say there aren't good Nurses out there on consoles). Every killer has a limit and a counterplay regarding their power. Trapper's traps can be disarmed and broken, Hillbilly can be juked still and slamming into walls can be a hazard, Hag is slow and her traps can be taken out with flashlights or while she is holding someone. I could go on but I would rather you read on instead of disregarding this post.
2. Would you rather to not have any other objectives to do as a survivor? A killer has the ever charming job of having to chase a survivor around loops and other stuff in the time it takes for three generators to pop. As the name implies the killer's job is to kill. So of course they have to (eventually) catch the survivors. But the major problems with the more better Killer perks is that perks like Ruin is a HEX perk, and there were one a many time that I have spawned right next to it, destroying it in seconds.
3. Okay, maybe you've had the benefit of having survivors who could hit a DS but not a great skill check, I cannot tell you how many games I have lost or nearly lost a game cause my poor shoulder has been stabbed at a bad time. Barbeque and Chilli requires you to actually hook a survivor and half the time you won't see/be able to reach anyone in time. Plus the perk is mostly used for the blood points anyways. The thing about killer add-ons is that you lose them after a match, survivor items and add-ons are not lost if you are smart and don't use the entire thing up in one go. The moris are there for simple pleasure after a hard day. And tell me, how many times have you actually seen a oak offering? Which survivors also have.
4. I'd like to assume killers don't care or are empowered by the Entity when they fall off a large height. I'll give you that maybe the Hag or the new killer probably should have some kind of penalty for falling, at least with a survivor on hand. Killers are supposed to be overpowered, that's the point. Do you want them to be ran around even more then half of even the best killers.

No one is against dragging survivors out of the gate if they are butt dancing. That's annoying.

Raccoon said:

I cannot actively participate in a genuine discussion in your topic as we're apparently not even playing the same game

@SirMurphAlot

I'll lay it out for you one more time:

Rank in Dead By Daylight is not a Rank

A rank means that you are a certain rank and you are the only one that has this rank. Often, multiple players share 1 name within a certain range of ranks:

For example in League of legends, many people with a similar rank will be called "Gold" or "Platinum", but only you can be in that 1 rank, which is what you see at a challanger tier: There is only a Rank 1 challanger, not 2.

You can compete for that rank, but it's impossible to have 2 people with the same rank.

Dead by Daylight is different. What is called "Rank" has nothing to do with a real ranking system, but has more to do with grinding. If a bad player plays enough and knows the basic mechanism behind the pipping system, they can make it to rank 1.

In fact, all killers and survivors alive could be rank 1 simultaneously.
This shows us that we're not dealing with a real ranking system.

"Rank" 1 in DBD is where both the worst 50% and the best 0.1% reside, because again, rank in DBD is not a rank.

Statistics inflation.

This is why the survival rate is 40% at Rank 1. This is due to the a bunch of grindy 12 year olds playing the game a lot and dying.

When you actually look at good players versus good players (thus what a real ranking system would produce), then you see the survivor winrate skyrocketing. This is why people can pull off 25+ survival winstreaks.

Learning Curve:

When both players don't know how to play, it will be easier for a killer to catch a survivor than it is for a survivor to navigate through an unknown map, which is why when players are bad you see the folllowing:
30% survivor rate for survivors.

But when both players are good, you'll see the outcome of the Marth88 experiment:
5% winrate for killers.

A game in which players who don't know how to play produce a 30% winrate for survivors, where-as good versus good players produce a 5% winrate for killers, how can you possibly consider this game being killer favoured?

In Conclusion

Your post is nothing more than you reminding us that you are among the lower tier players, which is where bad killers have it easier against bad survivors, where as good killers have it immensely hard against good survivors.

Telling us that you are rank one (if you are) is also not going to prove anything. Playing against Marth88/the Depip Squad will, but you will not be able to win there, just like the over 300 test subjects of which less than 5% were able to win.

@SirMurphAlot

Yeah 4v1 you have a shot, ill agree but if a survivor isnt helping what are your chances with a 3v1, i play on console so i know, yeah you can disarm a trap but what about the addons that can counter that plus traps come back, any addon a killer uses can help deter those counters

This is where you do have a point. Not the point that the game is killer favoured (which it isn't), but that the game is very dependant on the progression you make as a 4 survivor team.
This has more to do with the fact that there are game-mechanics that predominantly target low-survivor count teams.

If the game were to be less teammate-dependant they'd have to change a few core issues with the game:

Chapter 1 of:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/34870/solution-to-the-death-efficiency-problem-solving-the-games-biggest-issue#latest

MysticalMagic92 said:

If you're not playing at rank one as both killer and survivor, your opinion is quite invalid. Rank one shows true skill, and if you play there you will realise it is much more difficult to be successful as a Killer, than as a survivor. It is very frustrating. Maybe watch something that actually shows what a killer has to deal with. You can say what you want, it's your opinion, but the only ones that matter are the actual people playing killer, and we are frustrated. If it's so easy, then why don't you become a killer main and add another player to our small roster why don't ya?