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Why hillbilly is not played ?
The overheat mechanic doesnt affect him at all even without add ons.The only complain I could see its on certain add ons but for me the best ones are steering anyway.
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Probably cause it's not so hard to outplay him? When Billy rushes he is straight forward and survivor can avoid it.
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If u have steering add ons shouldnt be such easy
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1) Add-ons are mostly garbage
2) Not easy to play (if you want to win games with him)
3) Sometimes maps can hurt him a lot (hard curves, hard travel around map, etc.)
4) Easy to be hard punished (hitting a wall with a chainsaw, missing chainsaw, etc.)
5) M1 Billy againts good survivors
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It could also be caused by so many map reworks since his (de)rework.
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The overheat mechanic might no affect you if you only go for backrevs and use the saw for mobility.
However,if you actually want to mindgame with your it and curve around loops,then you'll definetely notice how much overheat affects you.
His rework just made him less fun to play
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Hillbilly is really slow/dodgeable during his rushes. His maneuvrability (turns/blinks) required as much skill as a good Blight or an Oni. He can't be a stealthy killer, he can be stunned easily, he has a big cooldown when he has failed his rush and the overheat of his chainsaw extremely decreases his use of his power.
All their add-ons are remaked as well, and few of it aren't really useful to chainsaw survivors. Some add-ons give some stupid & useless effects (Oblivious, stealthy when the Hillbilly is landing his chainsaw...).
Best add-ons are the Engravings (yellow & green), and probably the Yellow add-on for the charge, The White/Green add-ons to reduce the bump's time and maybe the Purple to cross pallets with the chainsaw...
He isn't an "easy" killer anyway because his power requires a long playtime to be effective... Using his Prestige skin (or buying his Legacy) doesn't give you the skill to master him...
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His rework just made him less fun to play
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I main billy its sad but ill go over why
1 add ons are hot garbage the filter is ur best add on beside steering and engravings
2 the devs messed with his base kit too much not only is overheating against good survivors a thing his steering god adjusted a bit and feels off
3 bubbas charges are easier to use and he does not get punishes easily
4 the 20-25% immidiate heat on his mechanic is dumb fake a saw get punished why is this a thing
5 why do add ons involve flashlights your add on use is not only dependant on a survivor but that survivor must beam u for no reason at all
and to top it off is centered around lightborn but if a survivor notices lightborn they wont beam anymore
6 why did they think crackbilly was a problem ( double engravings) only back rev instasaw billy was a problem
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For lethality it's better to play bubba.
On some maps his sprint is not useful, so you just have a worse chainsaw.
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1 seriously filter for what Ive never overheated the chainsaw.
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Because a lot of the old killers that used to play him have left a long time ago; that is to say, this game sucks at overall player retention (thanks to it being the same stale meta for so long at a time, usually...although recently I'd say that's improved somewhat with the introduction of new perks) more recently, but keeps pulling in better numbers thanks to licensed chapters so they still seem like people stopped playing Billy.
Newer players won't play him much because he's incredibly clunky especially since the add-on rework added the overheat mechanic (and that annoying ass scream he makes every time he chainsaws) and the number of random spots where there are rocks and invisible walls since the map reworks came into the game is stupidly high.
A good Billy is just as scary as before, however.
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I think bubba chainsaw last less to charge indeed it should charge the same speed or even less as buba can down several at once.
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Uhm if u play backrev billy i geuss yeah u dont need it i play billy for the curves and then it does add up
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I play vanilla its a good way to see which killers need buffs or are add on dependant beating a SWF with no add ons killer feels good man
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Because his weird and unnecessary nerf made him less fun to play. A tragic end for a killer who was once considered the most balanced in the game.
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He's very hard to master and the reward doesn't match with Nurse and Blight despite them being equally as skillful. Also, his animations are janky, add ons are a joke, and the devs removed a lot of the fun things about him, like space Billy.
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Yeah my pick for add ons on billy is engravings yellow or green with either steering or filter
what is ur go to build on him i run lethal persuer pop shadowborn bbq/remember me
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fun got taken aways, animations broken, camera angle gives motion sickness, addons nerfed, main power nerfed, skill cap to high and also low reward. Oh and indoor maps, to many now making M2 not even usable for travel.
Hillbilly is dead horse.
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He requires the same amount of skill of Blight (arguably even more) to perform well for a smaller reward. Also he has way better addons and received tons of QoL changes. The amount of Blights I face remind me the amount Billies I faced back in 2019.
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Most likely his animations. I run Shadowborn on him, it is a bit better with Shadowborn.
Also, his Hitbox is super-huge, this makes it pretty easy to hit Survivors, but also to hit all the ######### which is scattered around the Map.
IMO the only change should be that Engravings increase the Overheat Limit to compensate for the Charge Time. Other than that, Billy is still a solid Killer.
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I whole heartedly agree with the engravings part also revert the scream its terrible and doesnt sound like old billy’s voice at all the ( aah ) when he bumped into stuff
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Because Twins are probably the only killer that's more obnoxious to play at this point. He has a built-in 3 second penalty for misusing his hard to control power while the user has to be mindful of the overheat mechanic punishing the user to be more cautious with him (paired with obnoxious sound effects, arguably the biggest turn off for me to play him). He's just not that fun.
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They just gutted every part of him for no reason. Like aside from his chase music everything about him got worse. If you wanna go zoomies play blight. If you wanna go brrr with a chainsaw play bubba.
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Because he got nerfed into the garbage can. Theres better options for mobility killers now, and having to deal with his nerfs doesn't warrant the time spent to play him.
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I'm probably one of a few killers who still enjoys him, even though his nerf with completely moronic, considering on the same patch notes where they changed him they declared he was exactly where they wanted him! To this day, it's one unanimous change amongst the community (no matter which side they play or what ratio) where people thought it was just an amazingly dumb decision.
But he is so much fun to play! If you play him like an absolute nutjob, take risks in the paths you charge and take advantage of the sudden 90 degree turn you can perform at the very start of the sprint he can still be very destructive. Also, I've noted more positive feedback and interractions with survivors I've faced, regardless of the result.
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His camera got pushed forward ahead of the actual character model by a lot(by about a good two meters).
So turning is probably uneffected but they screwed up his PoV so badly that its nearly impossible to actually judge curving anymore as you can't see them properly anymore.
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Honestly if the devs just reduce his charge time by a small amount hed be popular again, it sucks it takes so long to charge up. By the time you have the perfect distance and charged up to do a high skill curve you have wasted too long.
This is why the reduce charge time addons was neta with old billy, doesnt need to be to that degree but default is too long and punishing
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Most Billy players quit because not only did they add Overheat and make people worry about that all the time (it really is super aggressive and you cannot play Billy like you used to - there's no mindgames any more), but they messed up his camera and forced everyone to relearn curving, nerfed his add-ons into oblivion, and to top it all the dedicated servers absolutely did a number on him and backrevs (now survivors whip around at close range and make it less about skill and more about luck).
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ovoid!! dude .. full escape from him !
a billy killer was like : omg where am i now
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Because Billy is hard to play well. He takes a lot of hours to master curving around loops. You used to see him more often when he had instant saw add-ons because you didn't need to be good at curves on him with those add-ons to do well on him if you were a decent killer player overall. Now you have to be good at curves to have a decent outcome against decent survivors.
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Difficult to learn, hard to play well even when learned, terrible add-ons, clunky animations, ear-grating sound design, Overheat limiting what you can do with the chainsaw and punishing you for using it creatively, many reworked map tiles being mostly uncurveable, chainsaw largely irrelevant and easily countered in chases with good survivors, and Bubba/Blight/Oni all being better/easier options for killers with instadowns/mobility.
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If looking at his new add-ons doesn't help you understand it, try playing just about any map as him (there are a few exceptions).
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The overheat mechanic shouldn't even be in the game... It punishes people trying to use his power. Heaven forbid a killer play by only using a killer's power. But Billy is just a terrible killer that is super tilting and super punishing
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He's an m1 killer against good survivors. Thats why
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He also got nerfed by a lot of added debris in reworked maps. Even if they removed overheat he still has to contend with trash map design.
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I equate it to the ever evolving and DEvolving map design.
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There's really no reason to play Billy when Blight exists. He's obsolete.
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Because he has a high skill cap with very little reward for being good like with nurse and blight. Addons are horrible. He's very easy to outplay if you're decent at survivor. And he's just not very fun anymore.
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He really can't use his chainsaw at solid loops against decent survivors and his add-ons are very, very underwhelming.
The Cannibal has the better chainsaw for loops. Oni's Wrath is superior to Chainsaw Sprint, even if temporary. And finally Blight has the better map mobility and pressure.
And I'm not sure if there is a way to fix him. Because the combination of high mobility + chainsaw is very hard to balance fairly.
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Even after the nerf, Billy is still fun, but it takes a great deal of practice before he becomes interesting. And a lot of people quit Billy before it gets interesting. I just wish it was a little easier to use...
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Worst part is when they announced they were reworking Billy, no one asked for it. Seriously nobody on the forums was screaming "Billy OP, Plz Nerf!". Billy was one of the more balanced killers at the time. What gave BHVR the idea to change him?
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- Dumb addons (Excepting Lopro, 1 of the best killer addon).
- The flickbilly is way more difficult (i guess devs don't know what that mean (?) )
- o V e R h E a T
- Any decent survivor can turn him into a M1illy.
- Wanky hitboxs on some new/reworked map.
- Awkward animations.
No more camera clipping😁- Blight.
- Oni.
- The ######### stupid scream.
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Billy is an example of classic bad DBD design: too much effort for too little reward. If you’re going to invest that much time, you’re better off playing Nurse. Don’t get me wrong, you could make that argument for any killer, but even though a killer like Pig is weak, she is at least easy to play. Billy is the worst of both worlds because he is hard and has limited reward.
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People will tell you it's because of the overheat, but it has quite little impact overall, unless you're failing at curves around a loop and wasting time anyway. I don't think should overheat exist or that he should've been nerfed
You want to know the real reason? The real reason is because everyone used his charge addons for insta-saw. Better yet they used to use the old Tinkerer, that made the charge time even faster. That's why the masses stopped playing him, because they took his busted addons away and now he's even worse in a game where the meta is just pre-dropping pallets and holding W to do it to the next one.
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I guess we'll never know.
It's the BHVR way of balancing,either great changes or awful ones
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Imo why play Billy if you have Bubba unlocked? He's essentially a better Billy and can chainsaw more than 1 survivor and doesn't handle like a drunken rhino when he activates his chainsaw. But again, that's just my opinion.
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That's exactly what BHVR wants - people to pay for DLC (also known as pay to win). Bubba also comes with BBQ, which every sane killer player is going to run (especially if they're new/need lots of BP).
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! LOUD NOISES EAR PIERCING CHAINSAW NOISES!#!@#!#
and the myriad of bugs, bad changes and animation/fov nerfs.
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