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For the most part, we are happy with the way The Hillbilly performs.
His power is very versatile, allowing him to quickly traverse the map, zone out Survivors and instantly down them. From a Survivor’s perspective, there is also a reasonable amount of counterplay, leading to interesting chases where the best player often comes out on top.
Given that we’re already pretty happy with the way The Hillbilly performs, the changes to his base kit are minimal. We are not removing any of the options you have with his chainsaw (traversal, feathering, curving, etc.). Instead, we want to focus on the skill-based gameplay and put an emphasis on using your chainsaw effectively, only adding a small drawback to misusing your chainsaw.
In 4.1.0, The Hillbilly’s chainsaw will now feature a new Overheat mechanic. Revving the chainsaw will now cause it to accumulate heat, which can be seen both in the lower left corner around the power icon and on the chainsaw itself. Sprinting with the chainsaw will also cause it to heat up as a much lower rate. This heat will dissipate over time whenever the chainsaw is not being used.
If the Overheat meter fills up completely, it can no longer be used until it has completely cooled down. When this happens, it will cool down at an increased rate. If the chainsaw overheats as you are sprinting, your sprint will not be interrupted.
The goals behind this change is to add a small drawback to misusing the chainsaw, and to add a bit more depth to the chainsaw with resource management.
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All they had to do was remove charge time but I guess they don’t like fun killers. Don’t worry though spirit is still the same :(
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Just stop playing him. As most people did. Once his pick rate drops to 0, they´ll probably do something.
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I just want to vs old Billy again.
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Except for the janked animations sure
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I do still like and play him but the nerf was still completely unnecessary.
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It’s been an entire year since this change and yet billy hasn’t been touched. But huntress doesn’t get nerfed, blight gets 4-5 changes in 6-7 months. Trickster gets 4 changes done in 4 months. Clown keeps his overpowered pinky finger. They have a huge hate bias towards Billy
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Keep in mind that a certain developer, you probably know who, said THIS killer was OP while Clown was underrated because people haven't been properly using him or something.
Edit: Apparently this wasn't sincere so mb.
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He just needs an addon rework. Too many of the addons have downsides.
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Huntress was nerfed in that time.
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I love having to wait over a year and a half for BHVR to fix Billy's animations and still getting nothing when Blight gets his fixed in 6 months.
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But there's literally no reason to play Billy over Oni right now. Oni is superior in nearly every way.
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Stbfl double engravings meta /s
It is so fun to have 2 cooldowns in 1 killer!!.
Honestly if people had issues before with basekit billy they were the problem.
"Overheat barely does anything!" Sure buddy, only limits skill cap and interesting stuff you can try, it is so fun messing 1 chainsaw because survivors teleport from 1 side to the other and almost get overheated.
Engravings need a massive buff to compensate for the crap overheat mechanic.
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>Happy with how Hillbily performs
>Nerfs him anyway
>Refuses to elaborate further
>Leaves
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This is the way.
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Too many devs got reverse chainsawed while hiding in a corner.
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We are talking about the same company which nerfed Freddy merely a week after its release, which nerfed Pig over and over again for no reason at all, and almost nerfed Demo's best add-on.
Trying to understand is pointless. All we can do is hope that Billy will get some love in the future, something that probably won't happen.
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Come on, they literally said "for the most part", but everyone's acting like they said "we're 100% satisfied and have no intention of changing him in any way whatsoever".
This is why the devs don't communicate with us. They say X, people distort it to mean Y.
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Y'know i never noticed that his animations are, apparently, janky.
Probably cause this change happened right as i was discovering Make Your Choice on Wraith. (A.k.a. i was focusing on something else entirely.)
Does anyone have comparisons perhaps? Or just showcasing that the animations are off?
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This is but one little detail. 4 words more, 4 words less...it doesn't matter.
The point is: they nerfed Billy, regarded by many as the "golden standard" of DBD balance for killers. I doubt they even took Billy mains into consideration.
Actually no, I doubt they took the community itself into consideration. NO ONE wanted Billy to get nerfed, and they did it anyway. This change is hated to this day and hasn't being reverted yet. Heck, they haven't even acknowledged the fact that everyone hates it.
This is unacceptable, in my honest opinion.
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I love you Orion, but please consider people's perspectives on this.
Billy was a balanced killer before the rework, the only thing that needed changes were his add-ons. His base-kit was completely fine and the majority of the playerbase didn't have a problem with him.
That's why so many people are upset about it, Billy didn't need the overheat mechanic at all.
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To be fair, if the nerfs to Billy really are as heavy as people allege, then "for the most part" isn't really accurate either, is it?
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Only iridescent head was nerfed her base kit stayed the same.
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He never said billy was OP yes he said it on a live stream but he wasn’t telling the truth he was by himself saying stupid #########. Also he never worked on Billy’s change I have a list of changes he made but Billy is not on the list.
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The same developer also made it clear that, and i quote: "We don't know why freddy is overperforming, just that he is when you look at the numbers"
So they nerf him, without actually nerfing the thing that makes him strong (not OP) because they literally didn't know why he was strong.
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Oh I wasn't sure, thanks!
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I am getting tired of playing hillbilly I just want to get his stupid trophies out of the way I was robbed of 2 matches for the adept and keep getting the stupid maps that are literally no kills for him
I barely play killer but all I get are swf the stupid new grade system doesn't work
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Right.
IMO as a heavy huntress player she got buffed. Good Huntress players never really messed with Iri head anyway and now she has quite a bit of good add-ons IMO ofc.
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For the most part means adding an entire new mechanic and changing pretty much all his addons and animations? I don't even feel like im playin the same billy base. (Not because of the overheat but because of animations and fov) They also even said the changes where "minimal" everything changed...?
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There is a big old post on the bug section that the devs apparently refuse to acknowledge which explains the problems.
The clips shown are only when he hits a survivor with the chainsaw though; the extremely annoying thing is when you sprint and stop, where the camera moves all over the place forcing you to look down in a nauseating way.
Just look at any Billy gameplay of 2019/early 2020 and compare that to any recent one.
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If nobody plays the killer then there is no need to balance him
Kind of like twins c:
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I seem to not be able to detect the difference they're talking about between those 2 clips.
Not that the poster helps me see the difference, just that "the difference is pretty clear".
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Her addons got reworked. Some are kinda... you know... meh
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Some people still seem to play them. For a daily or something like that.
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Billy is that killer that gets punished for having fun (Which is why I hate how dbd's balance has gone so much to where I am barely playing the game anymore, because they showed alot more care about the game 2-3 years ago compared to now where updates barely get anything changed and we constantly get perks nobody will use)
Billy was the perfect killer basekit wise when it came down to balance, all he needed was an add-on pass and that was it, but instead we get a killer where almost every add-on is god awful, he is punished for doing fun techs, and somehow his animations became jank. He once was a high played killer because he was the perfect combo of strong and fun, but now he is kinda strong and unfun, I miss old billy
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Functional animations
Buggy animations
Pay attention in particular to the position of the hammer and the chainsaw sprint recovery animation, like it's impossible to not tell the difference.
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Ohhhhhh.
Yeah okay, thanks for helping me.
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I mean, what they said was correct
The changes to his base kit were minimal and he definitely takes more skill to play. large majority of Billy players before the change (including myself) were relying way too much on add ons
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You're welcome. The more people get to know about these issues, the better.
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Tbf, i prefer to reroll à daily on killers i dont like or enjoy to play
Especially billy
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It's so sad, that they literally killed off my boy billy with these nerfs. For me he is the most fun killer to play against, the chases are so intense.
Would love to see that they bring him back to old strength
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He didn't use to limp and jiggle the camera all over the place. You have little skips and stutters when you change directions now. You use to be able to see the full head of the hammer plus a decent part of the handle giving a wider fov. Now they shoved the camera so far forward that you can only see the top of the hammer and have a MASSIVE deadzone infront of you
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Same.
But sometimes it goes like: "get 4 hits after a blink while playing Nurse" skip "hit 4 survivors with a fully charged shred, while playing Demodoggo" skip "get 4 downs after fully exposing a survivor as Ghostface" (thats usually the moment my eye starts twitching)
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I skip nurse cause i cant play her
I skip billy cause 3 chainsaw downs when you almost never pmayed him is impossible
I skip Demo because 5 shreds FULLY charged isn't optimal and kinda hard to do when survivor plays well
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I think that Billy should get a better hitbox for his chainsaw and that recovery animation should not lead to him looking at his feet.
The hitbox is so tiny I sometimes miss survivors who are maybe half an inch next to me and still big enough for me to bounc off a bush on Haddonfun (bouncing off...a bush...with a chainsaw...urgh...). This make for no good feeling and makes me think that his hitbox should be a bit more forgiving.
His recovery itself is fine bumping should be punished and I can deal with that. However that Billy looks at his feet is just bad. He is not Nurse with a gamebreaking ability that needed a downside, he is just Mr. Billy with a chainsaw.
I love Billy. He was the first Killer I played and his Perks are top notch for a beginner in my opinion. His power combinds a insta down with map mobility and is fun to use, his chase music is dope and his story is sad. Even thou I prefere more subtle Killers now I enjoy myself a good game of Billy from time to time. He is a good piece of work. This is why I think a few tweaks would be welcome.
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We appreciate your feedback;
because of this new information we have added 10 new cosmetics to the in-game store and have made changes to the power of the spirit, she will now be highlighted in a yellow aura when she is standing still and not fading. We feel that this will help with the more casual players and encourage them to continue spending money in our shop.
Thanks for playing, see you in the fog 😘
(this is all sarcasm by the way... ish)
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I thought the nerf was inevitable, but I don't understand why other killers (SPIRIT, BLIGHT,etc) are allowed and Billy is not. Billy is a fun killer to use on your own or to meet on Survivor. I wish I could meet him more often.
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Depends how terrible your ping is. If you have good ping (30 and under) then survivors will probably react and you will miss. If you have trash tier ping then you will think huntress hatchets are easy and all ranged killers never miss.
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Cause remember everyone, we LOVE when Billy isn't using his Chainsaw! I'm glad it was given an annoying, limiting cooldown, because normal M1 killers are SO fun and interesting to play against, and constantly counterplaying the chainsaw DEFINITELY IS NOT fun! MORE people should be discouraged from playing Billy due to how obnoxious and unfun he is! Thanks for the totally not tone-deaf change to a totally overpowered killer, BHVR!
/s
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The way i play him, around loop i need the smallest shreds possible to get them quickly at à vault or pallet tbh, each gameplay differs, but since fully charging it takes about a second its not the way i play usually haha
(Or not in my situations)
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Mediocrity is the goal.
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