Pinhead with Franklin's, Hoarder, Undying + Ruin is what every Killer should be.

It does suck when you're the one who starts something and then someone else takes the credit.

Tbh I'm not sure it's working as intended, but I'm probably wrong and I fail in trading comprehension. When I tried it, I was expecting to get the free injure, but then it wouldn't do anything else. I was actually surprised that chains bounded injured survivors.

Back on topic, this kind of power-creep builds usually don't last very long (see Trickster's death throes etc.)

I also fail to see how a build that nets wins against everything but depip squads could be considered the model of balance to aspire to.

Currently also rocking franklin's and hoarder, but other two perks are TOTH and plaything which can be an annoying combo if TOTH isn't destroyed instantly.

Also trying to go for the box first which is apparently not an acceptable thing to do based on the last few matches I've had.

Does Franklin's Demise knock the puzzle box out of their hands? It makes sense but for some reason I am under the impression it doesn't work.

I know Hoarder works with it though, so logically Franklin's Demise should too.

Also: >not using Plaything

I like it as a semi-slowdown perk. It forces Survivors off gens or risk getting destroyed. Especially on indoor maps where it's much harder to see you coming.

Franklin's does work. You don't pick the item up automatically though, and must press space where you hit them after the animation is over.

Neat, thanks!

Does that affect chain hunts? It ends on everyone except for whomever picked it up I believe. Does the Survivor who had the box get a chain hunt or does it reset to 0% chain hunt progress?

That one I don't know, I'll see if I can test it tonight if nobody else gets an answer first

try a simple but mean build

play bubba with agitation iron grasp Franklins..... and insidious with a basement offering.

you know what to do next :)

And remember if you feel bad or if the survivors are salty just tell them/yourself that it's just a game and your supposed to have fun and if you do what makes you have fun aka basement bubba then that's fine and they need to respect your right to do what you want as you respect what they want.

Any more than 2k is over performing and the killer gets a cd.

Yet anything below 2k usually doesnt get buffed for a few years

If you are playing on a smaller map and you know the pin head is running hoarder. Once you pick up the box go into a locker. When you are in a locker chains will not spawn. Once pin head is away solve the box. If pin head is in a chase with another survivor or picking up a survivor solve the box.

I've played against survivors that do this and I've done it in solo so I know this works

I figured out those perks were good on him day one, but hoarders is more of a training wheels perk if anything. You can reliably find the box fast without the use of those, but yeah franklins does help. I wrote a large and first guide on pinhead and I mean I am considered the number 1 pinhead in the world because I called dibs on the title.

So thats your answer for killers who struggle? Play the current meta.

I had a rather tragic match against one when I had equipped the challenge to escape one with Élodie while holding an Ultra Rare item and I had put on my goblin chest build. I sure did love getting tunnelled trying to find an item to begin with.

Am I the only one who has never legit ran Ruin/Undying? I personally find them to be overkill. They kill the challenging aspect of playing killer for me. I’d rather run Plaything + Lullaby so it feels rewarding to make gens more challenging for survivors.

Just curious.

I don't running more than 1 hex is a waste of time