The Obsession perks are the wort mechanic

@anarchy753 said:
You missed Rancor which is just a blatantly bad perk, though it works nicely with STBFL, seeing as you can avoid the obessession all match and build STBFL stacks, then deal with them cleanly at the end.

yes sorry my bad still it's a perk to balance a mechanic that is not working very good for both sides ( when a killer use them )

@The_Crusader said:
DS, OOO and Dying Light ruined the game.

I'd love to know how such bad ideas ever made it into the game.

The survivors want ways to keep playing after the killer down them and the DLC it's has good way to put in

@antgnstea said:
Would it be bad if killers had a perk or an offering that not to have an obsession? Like you don’t become obsessed with any of the survivors in the next trial.

it will be perfect but killer never get good perks without a huge downside

@powerbats said:
Good grief just stop with the victim mentality here, you've got perks that can be really strong if used right so of course they have to have a weakness. You were never supposed to be able to use all 4 obsession perks together so that's a really bad argument to use.

I use Rancor all the time and it's not a bandaid fix and if use right works wonders even against someone running OoO. Instead of making excuses or complaining about something how about learn how to actually counter the things you complain and make excuses about.

Ok good point what is the weakness of the perks for the survivors?

@powerbats said:

@DarkGGhost said:

@powerbats said:
Good grief just stop with the victim mentality here, you've got perks that can be really strong if used right so of course they have to have a weakness. You were never supposed to be able to use all 4 obsession perks together so that's a really bad argument to use.

I use Rancor all the time and it's not a bandaid fix and if use right works wonders even against someone running OoO. Instead of making excuses or complaining about something how about learn how to actually counter the things you complain and make excuses about.

Ok good point what is the weakness of the perks for the survivors?

That's just sad that you instantly go that tired old excuse, so here's just a few examples.

Self Care:
1. It takes forever to heal now.
2. Sloppy Butcher can make it take forever

No Mither:
1. You start in the injured state so you're a 1 hit down.
2. The killer knows you're running it on the icon screen right at the start of the game.
3. You moan loudly and you run in an injured state.

Adrenaline:
1. It's only going to work if you manage to live until all 5 gens are done.
2. You could be one the hook and your teammates are either all dead, potatoes or they all run out the exit gate the moment they hear a killer's heartbeat.

All aura perks:
1. The killer could be running knockout
2. The killer could be running a hex perk.
3. The killer could be mind gaming your aura perks.
4. The killer could simply follow someone using say bond to other survivors.

Autodiadact:
1. You actually have to find someone to heal.
2. You actually have them let you heal them.
3. You actually have to have a skill check come up and hopefully not before the killer comes and interrupts your healing party.

Balanced Landing:
1. You have to hope you actually get a map where it's useful.
2. It causes EXHAUSTION
3. See # 1 above.

Borrowed Time:
1. Better hope you're not being unhooked at a bad time.
2. Better hope that you're not facing a smart killer that just waits out the timer like usual.

Calm Spirit:
1. Better hope it's a Doctor since it's pretty much worthless otherwise.
2. Don't give me the Clown excuse because while you don't cough they still get a hit notification.
3. Any Doctor worth their salt will tunnel you to the hook and probably camp you the moment they realize you're running said perk.
4. It doesn't stop you from progressing in madness tiers.
5. It doesn't stop you from standing up and quietly screaming usually in full view of said doctor.
6. It doesn't stop the Doctor from getting a visual notification that hey someone's over here.
7. It doesn't stop illusions from spawning let alone doing #6 above.

Dead Hard:
1. It doesn't stop smart killer from just baiting you into using it and then downing you shortly afterwards.
2. It causes EXHAUSTION.

Deliverance:
1. You have to be able to get a safe unhook done.
2. The person you just safely unhooked can't decide to be a noob and run right into the killer and get downed.
3. You have to hoe the killer doesn't camp you since otherwise the perk is useless.
4. You have to hope some noob doesn't run in and unhook you right in front of the killer and waste it.
5. It causes the broken effect meaning you can't heal or be healed for 60 seconds and ths are fresh meat for any smart killer.

All movement speed perks:
1. They all cause EXHAUSTION.
2. Smart killer will bait out the uses and then simply down the survivor.

I could go down the entire list but you get the point and the fact your arguments are just an excuse looking for something to blame your own poor gameplay on.

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Very nice but where are the Obsession perks you the reason of this post?

@powerbats said:

@DarkGGhost said:

I like who you use so many IF he/she has this can be "counter". But yes if the killer has this perks can make them weaker not useless but just weaker, ( is not like the perk you just say counter have a wort weakness).
DC if the killer use slugged you sill have the perk and you can use it later. and yes they can mori you if they have one.
OOO can be mind game both way you know and normally a survivor can win it.

I like how I give you weaknesses and you resort to the same old excuse making every time you're given answers.

The smart killers know how to counter and use obsession perks against survivors, the bad killer simply make up more and more excuses. There isn't a perk in the game that makes another perk useless, they're all about making things better for you and weaker for the other side.

Also really bad logical fallacy usage there since you knew it was a failed argument before you even typed it but hoped it'd work.

Well gee you're on the ground dying and if in a solo game guess what it's worthless since you're teammates if they're not running bond or empathy won't come for you. Oh and Knockout says hi along with Myers Evil within I, and hex perks and oh you get the idea. You were given information and chose to completely ignore it because it just shows you're the issue not the perk.

So now you admit it can be mindgamed so now your story is changing and sure a can win it, it doesn't mean they will or that they normally do. If a survivor uses it better they outplayed that killer, and if a killer does it the same is true.

Bottom line STOP MAKING EXCUSES UP FOR EVERYTHING.

If you can't counter what the survivors do or adapt to it and play better then the common denominator in all your losses is YOU.

As some of the killer mains like to say when survivor mains make up as many excuses as you do al you have to do is.

See there's the answer to all your problems, do that and all your excuse making will magically vanish.

You maybe be right after all the are perks you can use to counder ( if you can use it you build ), but an eazy way to end this problem will be only killer have obsession perk, then make it so OOO work for all but with very lower range and DS can use if and only a killer have an obsession perk in he/she build.