General Discussions
General Discussions
Bye Bye Steam Players!
In the limited time we have had cross-play enabled, you have shown to be some of the best players out there and I have learned a lot from you.
I wish you the very best, and should you ever decide to buy a PS5/XBox and pop it under your TV, I'm sure the rest of the community will welcome you back to Dead By Daylight with open arms.
Take care, and I hope you will wish the rest of us all well, still out here in the fog.
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I don’t understand what’s going on here?? What happened??
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Read the tweets and scroll around the forum for 5 minutes.
You'll get an idea.
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steam deletes all NFT related games
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Helleraiser license holders affiliated with an NFT company, BHVR was obligated to participate and NFTs are against steam rules.
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People over evaluating Steams stance on crypto in games.
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BHVR just revealed they were directly involved with NFTs through Pinhead licenseholder (despite pretty much denying this just a week ago) and Steam apparently bans games that are involved with NFTs
though we don’t know Steams/Valves official statement kn case of DbD
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Oh my god this sounds bad.
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Lol. That's not happening.
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so dbd is getting deleted off steam
so i will lose all my data
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If steam deletes DBD does that mean they can just give everyone the Legacy cosmetics? Doesn't really need to be exclusive to platform it got kicked from. 😂
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On one had...No way BHVR's lawyers didn't see this coming...on the other... it is BHVR.
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DBD itself doesn't have NFTs so it'll be fine. It's still ######### that bhvr worked with an NFT company.
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It’s not certain right now. Chances are that Steam handles this one differently as BHVR is ‚only‘ indirectly involved by creating the assets and all.
the thing we need to ask ourselves now is, do we want to support BHVR doing this? And this goes to any player -regardless of platform.
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Applications built on blockchain technology that issue or allow exchange of cryptocurrencies or NFTs.
This is Steams policy. It doesn't look like BHVR violated it in this instance.
People are making it out that any involvement with NFTs even outside the published game is a violation. Which doesn't seem to be the case here.
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Should be able to transfer data (skins, levels, etc.) over to the Epic store once thats all been ironed out
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"Behaviour worked with Boss Protocol over several months to adapt in-game models for use as NFTs and approved them prior to the release of Pinhead in DbD. The NFTs have a chance to grant access to the #Hellraiser chapter of DbD."
Sounds like they are directly involved since they actively worked on them and approved them.
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Only issue with that outside the whole NFT thing is that that involves downloading and opening the Epic store.
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No your data is all stored by BHVR so its safe. You might have to move to another platform though. Epic Games will probably take ownership if they actually did get banned.
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Trade one cancer for another.
I wouldn't go that far just yet. I don't see DBD getting kicked off Steam with this.
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This is the question we should be asking ourselves. I understand BHVR didn't really have much of an option if they wanted the license to include Pinhead in Dead By Daylight so I believe the fault is majorly at Park Avenue Entertainment for putting that as one of the clauses. We don't know the exact details of how it happened, but as a community I think we should think twice about getting the Hellraiser Chapter at the very least.
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Lmao like I'd go through the effort of buying all my dlcs and farming up all my killers again. If it gets taken off steam then that's the end of DBD for me. I've already had it uninstalled for the past couple of months anyways but with the intention of coming back if a killer that seems really cool comes out or they make a lot of good changes. That might not be the case anymore even if steam doesn't do anything about it I might never come back anyways
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but what if we don't have the right kind of computer version to download epic games
will i just be screwed
epic games is not compatible on my computer
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I doubt they're going to remove Dead by Daylight from steam. Whether they should or not, is another question. But -- I can't see Steam removing the game from their platform. They'll state that while DBD is involved with NFT's, they aren't selling them on the platform and the game is still not (currently) a crpto-currency based game.
This isn't so much in favor of BHVR CYAing themselves. Because they really screwed the pooch with their response, and clearly weren't prepared for their playerbase to be upset about it. So I doubt they thought much about any other consequences. But I don't think Steam will go so far as to ban a popular game, and will let it slide at the very least for now. Because Steam likes money too.
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There is also the Microsoft Store.
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What is happening? What is NFT? That I'm missing?
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oh for me it does sound like it as well. But frankly, we don’t know how Steam will weigh it just now.
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Warm goodbyes aside, if DBD does get banned on Steam or preemptively moves to Epic, I'm gone. NFTs are making strongly consider it. Epic would make that a certainty.
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:)
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Considering the wording in the "What you shouldn't publish on Steam" article/guide, I feel like it's targetting something else than the NFT stuff in question when it comes to DBD right now. I quote:
"13: Applications built on blockchain technology that issue or allow exchange of cryptocurrencies or NFTs."
Source: https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/gettingstarted/onboarding
At least to me it sounds like it's more about in-game items having NFTs attached to them and therefore real-world value (which is pretty interesting considering how many really expensive completely virtual items that exist in games like CS:GO, TF2 and to a lesser extent other big games with Steam inventory support such as Rust).
NFTs when it comes to gaming are needless to say quite controversial at the moment considering the Evolved Apes situation that looks like some kinda exit scam, situations involving copyright infringement/art theft and of course the environmental concerns.
EDIT: Basically, DBD is by no means a "crypto game" or "built on blockchain technology". It's used more as some kinda weird marketing tool than anything else.
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Even if the game is taken down from steam, we will still have access to the game, the dlcs, the updates etc. you just can't buy it anymore. so, no, you won't get rid of us. although i would like the cheaters to leave.
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So will Pinhead mine crypto on my GPU?
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Ok, enjoy your 5 hours queue.
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I don't like the way you wrote it, it's like OP is making fun of it, even happy. It's not a good thing when someone else get screwed due to a bad company movement.
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Nothing is happening to DBD on Steam. Steams policy prevents publishers from selling/exchanging NFT's in game. This Pinhead NFT is not minted by BHVR and is not in the game. The NFT is a limited run of blockchain created tokens associated with the character model and created outside of the game by a separate company. In fact buying the NFT does not guarantee in game content. If you read the website it says 10 out of the 10,000 NFT's will randomly come with access to the Hellraiser chapter. Those 10 people are basically getting Steam keys for the content.
Here's the difference. You buy the Hellraiser content for the game through BHVR (or Steam or GOG or Humble Bundle etc.) This is the in game content and is not an NFT. It has no blockchain information associated to it. What steam doesn't want is for a company to say you have to buy an NFT to get in game content, in other words the NFT is part of the game. This situation isn't that. The Hellraiser chapter purchased anywhere is not an NFT.
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I can assure you, there is nothing to make fun of here. I don't think anybody is happy other than those that seem to want this game to die.
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"Bhvr didn't really have much of an option"
Well of course they had. Showing some spine over profit greed and turn down the hell raiser chapter.
Despite the lack of content i would guess that the majority of the community would've understood IF properly explained.
Or they could've changed the goal of the chapter to quality improvements once they got wind of the NFT condition by the license holder.
No one but their own greed made them do this.
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I came back 2 days ago from a 6 month long break and this sh*t happens. Looool. Amazing.
Maybe this is a sign that I should just gtfo for good 😂 I am so disappointed in learning this information.
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Chill guys, you really think they just did this out of the blue without getting informations about a possible ban? They will implement this in a way they're not getting banned, trust me. Steam is by far their biggest platform.
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