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Let survivvors see a killers profile before the game

So yeah another morning of facecamp after facecamp after facecamp. Great game you got here btw, great community too.

When you look at the killers profile many have comments enabled and its just one huge wall of people posting things like "-rep camper" or "-rep camps all game".

The camping in your game is so bad it's unbearable. Everyday I try to be optimistic about survivor but I always feel like playing it less and less.

At least if we could see the profile we could have an idea of if we want to play with such a toxic person or not. Killers can see survivors profiles its only fair that survivors can do the same.

Comments

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    10 games I've played so far. All but two of them the killers just camped.

    Great game, great community.

    And people wonder why its full of salty disconnecters?
  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    edited December 2018
    Bbq and chili needs to be in the shrine more often. I feel like it would help a lot if there was more incentive to not face camp.
    More points to get fresh meat, so to speak. 

    I hate to be like this, but maybe you should look into altering your playstyle some? Avoid the killer more, and let other people be the decoys more?
    Its not me getting camped everygame. Some games yeah its me but often its other survivors.

    Why cant people understand that? If someone complains about being camped its not because they're bad players or toxic players who get camped every game.

    I have empathy for other people. I dont want to see someone have their game ruined because the killer is a really scummy human being.

    Plus we get penalized in points for not unhooking. Then theres the major fact that its boring sat holding M1 on a gen while the killer sits at the other sife of the map on the hook.
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    No. Killers are the ones who need the advantage of more information, and SWF clearly shows why it should've remained that way. Camping is not against the rules.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Orion said:

    No. Killers are the ones who need the advantage of more information, and SWF clearly shows why it should've remained that way. Camping is not against the rules.

    Im not saying let them see killer offerings or even what killer they selected, just profiles. Nobody wants to play with scum like these people.
  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775
    edited December 2018
    Bbq and chili needs to be in the shrine more often. I feel like it would help a lot if there was more incentive to not face camp.
    More points to get fresh meat, so to speak. 

    I hate to be like this, but maybe you should look into altering your playstyle some? Avoid the killer more, and let other people be the decoys more?
    Its not me getting camped everygame. Some games yeah its me but often its other survivors.

    Why cant people understand that? If someone complains about being camped its not because they're bad players or toxic players who get camped every game.

    I have empathy for other people. I dont want to see someone have their game ruined because the killer is a really scummy human being.

    Plus we get penalized in points for not unhooking. Then theres the major fact that its boring sat holding M1 on a gen while the killer sits at the other sife of the map on the hook.
    Which is why I said what I said about BBQ. In general it would probably help.

    I tossed in the general tips as a bonus. Helped me out a lot early on.

    Kinda hard pressed to call the lack of unhooking a penalty. It's more not even earning the points to start with.
    It might be the equivalent of camping killers since the devs said they wanted more interaction between the killers and survivors. 
    One complaint I see directly and indirectly are short games being bad games.  Emblems seem to reward not blowing through a trial.

    As far as scummy players, while I don't pretend there aren't scummy killers, you might only know half the story in why the camping happens. It could be caused by a scummy survivor. 
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @The_Crusader said:
    Im not saying let them see killer offerings or even what killer they selected, just profiles. Nobody wants to play with scum like these people.

    That "scum" is playing within the confines of the rules. Just because you don't like to be camped doesn't mean they should have to abide by your wishes. Furthermore, salty Survivors will call anything and everything that isn't a completely free unhook "camping". And finally, even if this did go through, they'd just make their profiles private.

  • FoggyDownpour
    FoggyDownpour Member Posts: 288

    You can already see the killer profile if you want to, at least on PC and PS4.

    Another thing is that you aren't meant to see who the killer is, and their profile might contain hints on what they play as. It could be a comment saying what a hack Doc they are, their adept Doc achievement, their profile image/name/background, or even just their bio. There's a lot of info to gain by seeing the profile, and the devs want you going in just as blind as the survivors are in game.

    It also gives you the number of hours they have played DbD, and some people dodge those that have a high hour count. And besides, camping (as annoying as it is) is recognized by the devs as a legitimate strategy and they aren't going to give you a tool to avoid a killer with a specific type of play style that you dislike.

    That's just my thoughts on it though, I do see where you are coming from. It's frustrating to be caught and then never given the chance to have a good time or gain any bp. Sitting on the hook is one of the most boring sections of the game and being denied the chance to get back into the fun parts really sucks.

  • George_Soros
    George_Soros Member Posts: 2,270
    @The_Crusader how do you define camping?
  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    @The_Crusader how do you define camping?
    Staying close by the hook with no intention of leaving.
  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    powerbats said:

    Profiles should be hidden in the lobby for both sides, once game starts you can check with the in game overlay. Yes it sucks to get camped by the same killer several games in a row or sandbagged by the same team mate same way.

    But if I see someones profile and its a mass wall of "-rep camper" then I can make the informed decision to not play with that person.
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @The_Crusader said:
    But if I see someones profile and its a mass wall of "-rep camper" then I can make the informed decision to not play with that person.

    -ref camper

    There, you are now a camper. Is that how it works? Accusations are always true?

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Orion said:

    @The_Crusader said:
    But if I see someones profile and its a mass wall of "-rep camper" then I can make the informed decision to not play with that person.

    -ref camper

    There, you are now a camper. Is that how it works? Accusations are always true?

    Yawn here we go with the defence again.

    Are accusations always true? No, but when there's a page FULL of them? No smoke without fire.

    And yes from my experience when theres a page full of them they have ALWAYS been campers. In fact I've never clicked on a non-camping killers profile and seen thay.
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @The_Crusader said:
    Yawn here we go with the defence again.

    Are accusations always true? No, but when there's a page FULL of them? No smoke without fire.

    And yes from my experience when theres a page full of them they have ALWAYS been campers. In fact I've never clicked on a non-camping killers profile and seen thay.

    I've been accused of camping after MYC triggered multiple times. I've been accused of camping after a Survivor very nearly succeeded in a basement rescue after the gates were already powered. I've been accused of camping because I stayed near the hook when all three remaining Survivors were swarming the hook like vultures. I've been accused of hacking when I was using Whispers. The list goes on, and it all boils down to one thing: Survivors can't just take the loss and admit they were less skilled than the Killer.
    Yes, there is smoke without a fire, especially when it comes to Survivor accusations.

  • George_Soros
    George_Soros Member Posts: 2,270
    edited December 2018

    @The_Crusader said:
    George_Soros said:

    @The_Crusader how do you define camping?

    Staying close by the hook with no intention of leaving.

    I'm only asking because 8 out of 10 is the direct opposite to what I experience as survivor. So... I kinda suspected that like many others, you consider "hooking - leaving the hook to look for survivors - returning to hook to prevent unhooking" camping. It's quite usual and it's completely ok to do this.

    Facecamping is very rare, and it is a scummy thing to do indeed, but as I said, it happens no more than 20% of games (my games at least). Now divide that 20% by 4 (since there's only one survivor on the hook, the others can do gens, totems etc), and then it's 5%. That's really not much. Besides, facecamping is often done for memes. I find it funny when a Leatherface decides to guard my sorry cadaver so jealously. I get it that you don't, but again, it's an integral part of the game.

    I'll tell you something that has a much worse impact on game: people DC-ing or suiciding on hook. Now THAT does happen 8 out of 10 games as far as I can tell. This is the thing that screws games over much more than any amount of facecamping.

  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475
    edited December 2018

    @Rebel_Raven said:
    Bbq and chili needs to be in the shrine more often. I feel like it would help a lot if there was more incentive to not face camp.
    More points to get fresh meat, so to speak. 

    I hate to be like this, but maybe you should look into altering your playstyle some? Avoid the killer more, and let other people be the decoys more?

    Camping is not about perks, it's about character/selfish. Some people are just sick by nature.
    Just to account last night i watch a guy killing a dog in another game and i was talking "what's ur f. problem man", so ...
    BBQ don't resolve camping, neither MYC or Devour Hope.
    I see a lot of killers camping with MYC, other with BBQ or Devour Hope.
    Main killer and casual survivor here.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @rafajsp said:

    @Rebel_Raven said:
    Bbq and chili needs to be in the shrine more often. I feel like it would help a lot if there was more incentive to not face camp.
    More points to get fresh meat, so to speak. 

    I hate to be like this, but maybe you should look into altering your playstyle some? Avoid the killer more, and let other people be the decoys more?

    BBQ don't resolve camping, neither MYC or Devour Hope.
    I see a lot of killers camping with MYC, other with BBQ or Devour Hope.

    In what context? I've camped with MYC because all three Survivors were cosplaying as vultures around the hook.

  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475
    edited December 2018

    @Orion said:

    @rafajsp said:

    @Rebel_Raven said:
    Bbq and chili needs to be in the shrine more often. I feel like it would help a lot if there was more incentive to not face camp.
    More points to get fresh meat, so to speak. 

    I hate to be like this, but maybe you should look into altering your playstyle some? Avoid the killer more, and let other people be the decoys more?

    BBQ don't resolve camping, neither MYC or Devour Hope.
    I see a lot of killers camping with MYC, other with BBQ or Devour Hope.

    In what context? I've camped with MYC because all three Survivors were cosplaying as vultures around the hook.

    That's an exception off course.
    What i was saying is ... once a camper, always a camper. It's a bad habit, easy, don't chase, survivors came, don't be looped, don't get stunned/pallet. It's lazy but effective. Again ... by nature cuz some ppl tend to prove something to someone.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688

    I forgot to add, seeing the killers profile will also stop harassment. I've had killers single me out because they're salty from previous games.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    So yeah another morning of facecamp after facecamp after facecamp. Great game you got here btw, great community too.

    When you look at the killers profile many have comments enabled and its just one huge wall of people posting things like "-rep camper" or "-rep camps all game".

    The camping in your game is so bad it's unbearable. Everyday I try to be optimistic about survivor but I always feel like playing it less and less.

    At least if we could see the profile we could have an idea of if we want to play with such a toxic person or not. Killers can see survivors profiles its only fair that survivors can do the same.
    Sure, but only when the killer can see SWFs 
  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688

    @Master said:
    The_Crusader said:

    So yeah another morning of facecamp after facecamp after facecamp. Great game you got here btw, great community too.

    When you look at the killers profile many have comments enabled and its just one huge wall of people posting things like "-rep camper" or "-rep camps all game".

    The camping in your game is so bad it's unbearable. Everyday I try to be optimistic about survivor but I always feel like playing it less and less.

    At least if we could see the profile we could have an idea of if we want to play with such a toxic person or not. Killers can see survivors profiles its only fair that survivors can do the same.

    Sure, but only when the killer can see SWFs 

    Probably wouldn't work as they'd get lobby dodged to oblivion.

    But otherwise I'd be down for that. I play solo and get accused of being SWF for no reason. Sucks when someone tbags the killer and they take it out on the team by camping then explain after the game how they thought we were all friends.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @The_Crusader said:

    @Master said:
    The_Crusader said:

    So yeah another morning of facecamp after facecamp after facecamp. Great game you got here btw, great community too.

    When you look at the killers profile many have comments enabled and its just one huge wall of people posting things like "-rep camper" or "-rep camps all game".

    The camping in your game is so bad it's unbearable. Everyday I try to be optimistic about survivor but I always feel like playing it less and less.

    At least if we could see the profile we could have an idea of if we want to play with such a toxic person or not. Killers can see survivors profiles its only fair that survivors can do the same.

    Sure, but only when the killer can see SWFs 

    Probably wouldn't work as they'd get lobby dodged to oblivion.

    But otherwise I'd be down for that. I play solo and get accused of being SWF for no reason. Sucks when someone tbags the killer and they take it out on the team by camping then explain after the game how they thought we were all friends.

    SO you wanna see killer names to lobby dodge killers, but dodging SWFs is not ok?

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Master said:

    @The_Crusader said:

    @Master said:
    The_Crusader said:

    So yeah another morning of facecamp after facecamp after facecamp. Great game you got here btw, great community too.

    When you look at the killers profile many have comments enabled and its just one huge wall of people posting things like "-rep camper" or "-rep camps all game".

    The camping in your game is so bad it's unbearable. Everyday I try to be optimistic about survivor but I always feel like playing it less and less.

    At least if we could see the profile we could have an idea of if we want to play with such a toxic person or not. Killers can see survivors profiles its only fair that survivors can do the same.

    Sure, but only when the killer can see SWFs 

    Probably wouldn't work as they'd get lobby dodged to oblivion.

    But otherwise I'd be down for that. I play solo and get accused of being SWF for no reason. Sucks when someone tbags the killer and they take it out on the team by camping then explain after the game how they thought we were all friends.

    SO you wanna see killer names to lobby dodge killers, but dodging SWFs is not ok?

    Did I say that? I said the SWF would be lobby dodged to oblivion by the killer community, not me personally.

    Also I wouldn't be dodging killers, I'd be dodging specific killers who have an indication of being toxic - or people who I have played with before and I KNOW are toxic.

    The same way killers can dodge survivors now who they know or suspect to be toxic.

    Your way isn't dodging specific SWF, it's dodging ALL SWF.
  • Gamzello
    Gamzello Member Posts: 828
    A lot of survivors would most likely include that they’re a “camper, proxy camper, they tunnel, or slug in games” etc to most killer’s profiles. They might even leave insults I feel like this would be more of an issue tbh.

    I don’t camp, but even the devs support the fact that camping is indeed considered a strategy. Despite how poor it is, it’s still part of the gameplay.

    I understand it’s frustrating; it really is. When I get camped at the worst times (literally not being hit all game as well) it boils my blood lmao. But you can always just move onto the next game and just deal with it.

    BIG OOF!
  • PapaAndrei
    PapaAndrei Member Posts: 72
    Master said:

    @The_Crusader said:

    @Master said:
    The_Crusader said:

    So yeah another morning of facecamp after facecamp after facecamp. Great game you got here btw, great community too.

    When you look at the killers profile many have comments enabled and its just one huge wall of people posting things like "-rep camper" or "-rep camps all game".

    The camping in your game is so bad it's unbearable. Everyday I try to be optimistic about survivor but I always feel like playing it less and less.

    At least if we could see the profile we could have an idea of if we want to play with such a toxic person or not. Killers can see survivors profiles its only fair that survivors can do the same.

    Sure, but only when the killer can see SWFs 

    Probably wouldn't work as they'd get lobby dodged to oblivion.

    But otherwise I'd be down for that. I play solo and get accused of being SWF for no reason. Sucks when someone tbags the killer and they take it out on the team by camping then explain after the game how they thought we were all friends.

    SO you wanna see killer names to lobby dodge killers, but dodging SWFs is not ok?

    Did I say that? I said the SWF would be lobby dodged to oblivion by the killer community, not me personally.

    Also I wouldn't be dodging killers, I'd be dodging specific killers who have an indication of being toxic - or people who I have played with before and I KNOW are toxic.

    The same way killers can dodge survivors now who they know or suspect to be toxic.

    Your way isn't dodging specific SWF, it's dodging ALL SWF.
    We wouldn’t be dodging survivors, wed be dodging a specific type of survivors, who have an indication of being toxic, or people who I have played with before and I KNOW are toxic.
  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    edited December 2018
    Master said:

    @The_Crusader said:

    @Master said:
    The_Crusader said:

    So yeah another morning of facecamp after facecamp after facecamp. Great game you got here btw, great community too.

    When you look at the killers profile many have comments enabled and its just one huge wall of people posting things like "-rep camper" or "-rep camps all game".

    The camping in your game is so bad it's unbearable. Everyday I try to be optimistic about survivor but I always feel like playing it less and less.

    At least if we could see the profile we could have an idea of if we want to play with such a toxic person or not. Killers can see survivors profiles its only fair that survivors can do the same.

    Sure, but only when the killer can see SWFs 

    Probably wouldn't work as they'd get lobby dodged to oblivion.

    But otherwise I'd be down for that. I play solo and get accused of being SWF for no reason. Sucks when someone tbags the killer and they take it out on the team by camping then explain after the game how they thought we were all friends.

    SO you wanna see killer names to lobby dodge killers, but dodging SWFs is not ok?

    Did I say that? I said the SWF would be lobby dodged to oblivion by the killer community, not me personally.

    Also I wouldn't be dodging killers, I'd be dodging specific killers who have an indication of being toxic - or people who I have played with before and I KNOW are toxic.

    The same way killers can dodge survivors now who they know or suspect to be toxic.

    Your way isn't dodging specific SWF, it's dodging ALL SWF.
    We wouldn’t be dodging survivors, wed be dodging a specific type of survivors, who have an indication of being toxic, or people who I have played with before and I KNOW are toxic.
    But you can do that already. You can see survivor profiles and survivor names.

    So I assume you're implying all SWF are toxic, in which case you're wrong.
  • se05239
    se05239 Member Posts: 3,919

    Well, I'd like to opt-out of SWF squads but we cannot all have what we want.

  • Eesane
    Eesane Member Posts: 27

    Camping is a choice, even if we were able to see killers profile before game and it said "+great killer" etc etc.

    During that game they could decide to camp someone, so it wouldn't matter much if you could see their profile before hand. Just check their profile once you load in and if it's bad, either DC or don't be the first person they find and do gens.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Eesane said:

    Camping is a choice, even if we were able to see killers profile before game and it said "+great killer" etc etc.

    During that game they could decide to camp someone, so it wouldn't matter much if you could see their profile before hand. Just check their profile once you load in and if it's bad, either DC or don't be the first person they find and do gens.

    Well it would at least stop harassment.

    You get games where a killer will single you out just because you've had a run-in with them before. I shouldn't havr to change my steam name to avoid this.
  • Larcz
    Larcz Member Posts: 531
    Dont let surv see on end screen killer perks bocose one surv from swf dc or die.
  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Larcz said:
    Dont let surv see on end screen killer perks bocose one surv from swf dc or die.
    Yes this too.

    It ruins Bloodwarden otherwise.
  • MasonHugsCats
    MasonHugsCats Member Posts: 135
    Don't want to sound like an ### but, maybe increase your rank?  Rank 10 and below I've never been face camped, unless you count when the exit gates are open but even I do that. Most killers realise that camping gets you only one garunteed kill, and when it does it barely gives and BP. Face camping only occurs around rank 10 and below, when someone is being extremely toxic or, exit gates are open and the killer wants at least one kill.
  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Don't want to sound like an ### but, maybe increase your rank?  Rank 10 and below I've never been face camped, unless you count when the exit gates are open but even I do that. Most killers realise that camping gets you only one garunteed kill, and when it does it barely gives and BP. Face camping only occurs around rank 10 and below, when someone is being extremely toxic or, exit gates are open and the killer wants at least one kill.
    Camping occurs at all ranks. It can be worse at low rank though no doubt.

    Ranking up isn't a good solution here's why...

    You rank up. Like I did last month.

    The devs decide to push a button on the 13th, you go back to green.

    Don't play it for a week because I have other things to do...

    Now what? I need to go through an army of noobs just to get to a rank where there is a chance of having less camping. 

    The problem is that you need to go through a number of games to get to a decent rank and it simply isn't fun.

    You watch your teammates go down every 10 seconds. You're trying to do gens and rescue them at the same time.

    And at the end of it all? Your team dies and you gst stuck with a long and tedius hatch crawl, followed by a nice 10 minute standoff as the noob on the other end decides that after the hard work effort he went through to facecamp everyone out of the game he now somehow deserves the 4k.

    It doesn't feel like fun. It feels like a chore.

    If I didn't get reset every month then I'd do it. Whats the point at the moment though? I'll only go back to green at reset, and again the month after, and the month after that etc

    So it starts to feel like work. Where you feel you have to slug away and sit through ######### just to get to a rank where the game might become enjoyable.

    Theres no problem as killer because killer is fine to play ranking up. Solo survivor however....

    Theres also the fact that the game needs to be enjoyable for newcomers. If they start playing and during green ranks they just get camped to death they'll quit playing and there won't be any future players to replace those who are leaving. The community will die.
  • KingSavageGaming
    KingSavageGaming Member Posts: 148
    Let's be honest most of you survivors are asking for this just to cherry pick lol
  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823

    @KingSavageGaming said:
    Let's be honest most of you survivors are asking for this just to cherry pick lol

    You mean like some killers do already?

  • Unnamed_Freak
    Unnamed_Freak Member Posts: 570

    This would only screw lobbys even more, as this community is butthurt, a lot of survivors would avoid killers that outplayed them and lobbys would take ages to fill.

    The same thing can be said about killers, let them see SWF then they would basically avoid all of them, making lobbys take ages.

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823

    @Unnamed_Freak said:
    This would only screw lobbys even more, as this community is butthurt, a lot of survivors would avoid killers that outplayed them and lobbys would take ages to fill.

    The same thing can be said about killers, let them see SWF then they would basically avoid all of them, making lobbys take ages.

    I think the best option is: no one sees nothing. Survivors can't see the killer or other survivors and killer can't see survivors either.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Vietfox said:

    @Unnamed_Freak said:
    This would only screw lobbys even more, as this community is butthurt, a lot of survivors would avoid killers that outplayed them and lobbys would take ages to fill.

    The same thing can be said about killers, let them see SWF then they would basically avoid all of them, making lobbys take ages.

    I think the best option is: no one sees nothing. Survivors can't see the killer or other survivors and killer can't see survivors either.

    That would be an acceptable solution.

    This isn't to cherry pick, its to stop me as survivor from getting that one guy who wants to tunnel and camp specifically me all game just because I called him out for camping someone else in the last game.

    Although as killer I do like seeing survivors profiles because its amazing how many toxic looking ones i.e. p3 claudettes have vac bans. I tend to avoid people with vac bans. They have no shame.
  • Unnamed_Freak
    Unnamed_Freak Member Posts: 570

    @Vietfox said:

    @Unnamed_Freak said:
    This would only screw lobbys even more, as this community is butthurt, a lot of survivors would avoid killers that outplayed them and lobbys would take ages to fill.

    The same thing can be said about killers, let them see SWF then they would basically avoid all of them, making lobbys take ages.

    I think the best option is: no one sees nothing. Survivors can't see the killer or other survivors and killer can't see survivors either.

    I would agree on that only if survivors couldn't see the killer's build when they die, so endgame perks aren't screwed. If that happens then this change would be really good.

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823

    @Unnamed_Freak said:

    @Vietfox said:

    @Unnamed_Freak said:
    This would only screw lobbys even more, as this community is butthurt, a lot of survivors would avoid killers that outplayed them and lobbys would take ages to fill.

    The same thing can be said about killers, let them see SWF then they would basically avoid all of them, making lobbys take ages.

    I think the best option is: no one sees nothing. Survivors can't see the killer or other survivors and killer can't see survivors either.

    I would agree on that only if survivors couldn't see the killer's build when they die, so endgame perks aren't screwed. If that happens then this change would be really good.

    Yeah of course.

  • Condorloco_26
    Condorloco_26 Member Posts: 1,714
    edited December 2018

    I think it's a better idea to not let anyone see each other until the match ends for all 5 players.

  • inkedsoulz
    inkedsoulz Member Posts: 93

    @The_Crusader said:
    MasonHugsCats said:

    Don't want to sound like an ### but, maybe increase your rank?  Rank 10 and below I've never been face camped, unless you count when the exit gates are open but even I do that. Most killers realise that camping gets you only one garunteed kill, and when it does it barely gives and BP. Face camping only occurs around rank 10 and below, when someone is being extremely toxic or, exit gates are open and the killer wants at least one kill.

    Camping occurs at all ranks. It can be worse at low rank though no doubt.

    Ranking up isn't a good solution here's why...

    You rank up. Like I did last month.

    The devs decide to push a button on the 13th, you go back to green.

    Don't play it for a week because I have other things to do...

    Now what? I need to go through an army of noobs just to get to a rank where there is a chance of having less camping. 

    The problem is that you need to go through a number of games to get to a decent rank and it simply isn't fun.

    You watch your teammates go down every 10 seconds. You're trying to do gens and rescue them at the same time.

    And at the end of it all? Your team dies and you gst stuck with a long and tedius hatch crawl, followed by a nice 10 minute standoff as the noob on the other end decides that after the hard work effort he went through to facecamp everyone out of the game he now somehow deserves the 4k.

    It doesn't feel like fun. It feels like a chore.

    If I didn't get reset every month then I'd do it. Whats the point at the moment though? I'll only go back to green at reset, and again the month after, and the month after that etc

    So it starts to feel like work. Where you feel you have to slug away and sit through ######### just to get to a rank where the game might become enjoyable.

    Theres no problem as killer because killer is fine to play ranking up. Solo survivor however....

    Theres also the fact that the game needs to be enjoyable for newcomers. If they start playing and during green ranks they just get camped to death they'll quit playing and there won't be any future players to replace those who are leaving. The community will die.

    Ranking up is soo easy in this game...
    if you have trouble doing it you should check how you are playing the game.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688

    @The_Crusader said:
    MasonHugsCats said:

    Don't want to sound like an ### but, maybe increase your rank?  Rank 10 and below I've never been face camped, unless you count when the exit gates are open but even I do that. Most killers realise that camping gets you only one garunteed kill, and when it does it barely gives and BP. Face camping only occurs around rank 10 and below, when someone is being extremely toxic or, exit gates are open and the killer wants at least one kill.

    Camping occurs at all ranks. It can be worse at low rank though no doubt.

    Ranking up isn't a good solution here's why...

    You rank up. Like I did last month.

    The devs decide to push a button on the 13th, you go back to green.

    Don't play it for a week because I have other things to do...

    Now what? I need to go through an army of noobs just to get to a rank where there is a chance of having less camping. 

    The problem is that you need to go through a number of games to get to a decent rank and it simply isn't fun.

    You watch your teammates go down every 10 seconds. You're trying to do gens and rescue them at the same time.

    And at the end of it all? Your team dies and you gst stuck with a long and tedius hatch crawl, followed by a nice 10 minute standoff as the noob on the other end decides that after the hard work effort he went through to facecamp everyone out of the game he now somehow deserves the 4k.

    It doesn't feel like fun. It feels like a chore.

    If I didn't get reset every month then I'd do it. Whats the point at the moment though? I'll only go back to green at reset, and again the month after, and the month after that etc

    So it starts to feel like work. Where you feel you have to slug away and sit through ######### just to get to a rank where the game might become enjoyable.

    Theres no problem as killer because killer is fine to play ranking up. Solo survivor however....

    Theres also the fact that the game needs to be enjoyable for newcomers. If they start playing and during green ranks they just get camped to death they'll quit playing and there won't be any future players to replace those who are leaving. The community will die.

    Ranking up is soo easy in this game...
    if you have trouble doing it you should check how you are playing the game.

    Ah yes "git gud" didn't see that coming.

    Ranking up as killer is extrenely fast.

    As survivor from green rank its still mostly 1 pip since you're reliant on the circumstances being just right to double pip - i.e. you need teammates to get hooked, and it needs to be near enough for you to get the unhook rather than someone else.

    Its also 4-5 games per level. So you can see how it becomes quite a time consuming task to get up from low ranks.
  • Ajritoka
    Ajritoka Member Posts: 594
    Idk what game you’re playing... but I almost never face any camping Killers. Rank 6 Survivor btw.

    Besides, shouldn’t you be happy that your Killers are camping? Gives you guys time to finish the generators. And if you’re the one being camped, well... the Killer downed you, they have the right to do whatever they want with you.
  • KingSavageGaming
    KingSavageGaming Member Posts: 148
    Vietfox said:

    @KingSavageGaming said:
    Let's be honest most of you survivors are asking for this just to cherry pick lol

    You mean like some killers do already?

    Survivors do it just as much as killers both are guilty though. 
  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    Vietfox said:

    @KingSavageGaming said:
    Let's be honest most of you survivors are asking for this just to cherry pick lol

    You mean like some killers do already?

    Survivors do it just as much as killers both are guilty though. 
    As far as i know only killers can cherry pick at the lobby since they are the only ones who can see names and items.
  • KingSavageGaming
    KingSavageGaming Member Posts: 148
    Vietfox said:
    Vietfox said:

    @KingSavageGaming said:
    Let's be honest most of you survivors are asking for this just to cherry pick lol

    You mean like some killers do already?

    Survivors do it just as much as killers both are guilty though. 
    As far as i know only killers can cherry pick at the lobby since they are the only ones who can see names and items.
    Guess I'm lucky just i run into killers who appear online