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Does Calm Spirit need a change?

ManyAchievables
ManyAchievables Member Posts: 667

Calm Spirit is one of the most situational perks in the game, however when in that situation, it's quite oppressive against The Doctor's biggest strength - his great tracking. Doctor does have a way to circumvent Calm Spirit but it's not always going to be available.

By the way I'm going to be doing these kinds of polls a lot to just generally get a large amount of ideas that we, the community have thought of for some of the more underpowered perks in the game.

Would you buff Calm Spirit or Rework it in some way? If so, how?

Does Calm Spirit need a change? 59 votes

Buff it (Specify how)
45%
AdelooBlueberryGHERBEARRULESLeonardo1itaFreddy96TaigaAhoyWolfGeneralVMrsGhostfaceHappstaDawnMadCornHubHannonAlifyMadLordJackglitchboiYordsDhurl421boostedsurvivormainRizer 27 votes
Rework it (Specify how)
11%
Moonlight616KaanaTapeKnotDetailedDetrimentThicc_Boi_MyersIWasLeft2DieSweex 7 votes
Doesn't need to change (Specify why)
38%
White_OwlGibberishDimekDarootLeafstorm[Deleted User]Zhon[Deleted User]cynicalCrowmanUndershotTheEntityNeaAzxx93AggressiveFTWMoundshroudTripleStealBrokenbonesZestylassfroobynooTrashmasteredgyjmm 23 votes
Nerf it (Specify how)
3%
SasukeKunDanoobiel 2 votes

Comments

  • IWasLeft2Die
    IWasLeft2Die Member Posts: 2,405
    Rework it (Specify how)

    Id maybe include things like decreased gains from effects like doctors insanity etc.


    Monstrous shrine and no mother need looked at the most imo

  • Leonardo1ita
    Leonardo1ita Member Posts: 2,317
    edited February 2021
    Buff it (Specify how)

    It needs a buff, it can't be good only be good to counter infectious fright and doctor basically

    Crows aren't so powerful either

  • Moundshroud
    Moundshroud Member Posts: 4,458
    Doesn't need to change (Specify why)

    Calm Spirit works exactly as intended now. It is a solid, general purpose Perk which is never wasted because you always get at least a little something out of it. If anything the Perk (as it is now) sets a benchmark for utility that I wish all Perks would attain.

  • White_Owl
    White_Owl Member Posts: 3,786
    edited February 2021
    Doesn't need to change (Specify why)

    I think the perk does its job well. Crows help me a lot when playing killer and if more people used it I'd lose a very good tracking tool.

    The biggest problem of this perk is that it affects killers who use crows as a valuable source of information, but in my experience they are few.

    Probably this perk could be more useful in a tournament, where the chances the killer looks for crows are higher.

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814
    Buff it (Specify how)

    Give it a tertiary effect in line with being calm, like a slight exhaustion recovery bonus.

  • Trashmaster
    Trashmaster Member Posts: 357
    Doesn't need to change (Specify why)

    It works. It might be situational and completely useless against most killers but it isn't flawed in any way.

    I'd maybe add falling voice removal to it though, so it would come to play even when the killer is not doctor or running infectous.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671
    Buff it (Specify how)

    Maybe it also allows you to ignore radius effects. IE like Coulrophobia, Unnerving Presence etc etc.

  • CornHub
    CornHub Member Posts: 1,864
    Buff it (Specify how)

    Whatever noise gets blocked by iron will, calm spirit should block the rest.

  • Danoobiel
    Danoobiel Member Posts: 132
    Nerf it (Specify how)

    It shouldn't work on Doc's power, period.

    Perks that make survs harder to track are a always pain in the ass.

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 9,553
    Doesn't need to change (Specify why)

    The perk does it's job well enough. In fact it's been slowly getting buffed with the additions of perks that make survivors screams.

    Doc can bring the restraint addon to counter Calm Spirit as it shows the survivor's aura when they madness tier up. It's really not an issue.

  • Rizer
    Rizer Member Posts: 95
    Buff it (Specify how)

    Combine it with Iron Will.

  • Happsta
    Happsta Member Posts: 79
    edited February 2021
    Buff it (Specify how)

    I suggested a little bit ago (here) to also slow down killer instincts heart beat or pulse, so your position can be mind game-able. This would do two main things.

    •1. Make killers think you are further away, but this can be countered if killers remember the placement of torment trails for phead or their placement of victor or demo's portals.

    •2. It Would make killers play a mind game of cutting off the survivor's trajectory or doubling back since the pulse would leave a few seconds of guess work to the direction of the survivor. In cases like proximity killer instinct it might not even trigger more than once or twice as the survivor quickly runs across the trigger zones.

    This would give calm spirit a minor interaction with a quarter of the cast as a whole but also future interactions since it would cover 3 means of detection. I don't think it should negate killer instinct when walking or crouching like people suggested in my earlier thread because that will just encourage immersive play styles. The interaction with Killer instinct would play into the flavor of calm spirit since the Killer cant detect their heart beat or their sense of their "terror", since feral frenzy(first use of killer instinct) on legion only triggers killer instinct if a healthy survivor is in their terror radius.

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  • Adeloo
    Adeloo Member Posts: 1,448
    Buff it (Specify how)

    I think it could be either a buff to make it Spies from the Shadows for survivor. But with a cooldown of 30 sec not 12 and working for both other survivors and killer, so that if you don't have Bond or Empathy you cannot know if it's the Killer or a survivor around you.

    OR

    Buff by making it affect other survivors around you (16m) Crows would trust you enough to trust that anyone coming with you is a friend and so their friend.

  • ItzZane_
    ItzZane_ Member Posts: 965

    I think it should notify you when the killer disturbs a crow every 10 seconds and it should reduce breathing So it could counter stridor

  • Buff it (Specify how)

    make killer instinct effect less powerful and each pulse is more delayed, make nemesis zombies not get alerted unless ur really close, if a survivor disturbs a crow the aura of both you and the survivor are shown for 3 seconds (20 second cool down) if a killer disturbs a crow within 25 meter radius you get a noise notification (30 second cooldown)