Why do Killers always know when someone is in a Locker?
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I do not know what to tell you other than you aren't as crafty as you think. Could they be hacking? I suppose. But knowing a survivor jumped into a locker is basically the easiest tracking skill in the game. And I didn't even know about the breathing. Lol.
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For me, it's often intuition, from having played the game for a lot of hours now. A gen you kicked just a little bit ago has stopped regressing, but no one is there. You saw someone on BBQ, but when you get to the area, there aren't any signs of anyone leaving, so checking a locker quickly can pay off. Sometimes it's muffled breathing you pick up, sometimes someone injured is leaving blood trails. Sometimes you can see them, even though they probably think you can't.
When I've played survivor, I've been pulled out of a locker before and wondered how the killer knew I was there, but I genuinely don't believe those instances were "fishy", but they tended to be logical deductions the killer was making (usually, from high rank killers who I'm guessing know all the tricks by now). For me, my game sense has improved greatly the longer I've played, and that intuition from the hours I've put in pays off a lot more now than it used to.
And sometimes, you just want to reload your hatchets, lol. 😂
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Catching you with BBQ while you are entering one, following scratch marks, an advanced generator alone with nobody in the surronding walls and no scratch marks, hearing the sound of the locker when is being closed while you are near, a hunch,...
There are many ways to figure out a survivor is in a locker.
In fact I've been called hacker sometimes haha.
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This response got me thinking further. I was recently playing a build with Quick & Quiet and Fixated. And simply pressing shift near the locker surprisingly spawns scratch marks all around, even if you didn’t run up to it.
You may want to use Fixated for at least one match to see if scratch marks are playing into it.
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9 times out of 10 they shouldn't know. There's a cheating pandemic taking place. Although alot of the reasons described here are possible, they're unlikely scenarios.
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Experienced killers mostly. Scratch marks disappearing too fast? Locker. Don't see them running off in the open distance along with missing scratch marks and maybe muffled survivor noises? Locker. I was playing freddy one game and saw someone in the distance with BBQ and I was going for them but then I noticed they healed and i was like " No they healed too damn fast" saw a locker near where they were standing and they were in it and that a fast free hook for me. Some people just get lucky like all the times I find someone in a locker when I'm reloading hatchets.
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Yeah - This topic is pretty much a waste of time at this point, although it's nice to see how they reply to other people for future reference.
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The majority of reasons described here are actually pretty common and likely scenarios. There are hackers around at the moment, but I really don't think locker grabs should prompt that kind of scepticism when it's happened for far longer than this current crop of hackers.
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Every single locker grab that I know shouldn't be possible and in the back of my mind, flagged for a potential hacker, has been whispers. Other than that, a killer has never just randomly opened a locker and found me.
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That's almost gas lighting my man. Unless you are zoning in with whispers or got lucky with an aura, killers shouldn't have any cue to search lockers. The fact it's happening more often these days might seem incidental to the wave of cheating, but it's FAR more likely to be the result of subtle mod abuse than random locker searching.
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Great point on the "super quick heal" tip-off. I've seen an injured Nancy on BBQ, remembered she no med-kit in hand, gotten to the area I'd seen her and found no one -- but noticed the Nancy had already healed and guessed "They used Inner Strength to heal up". A quick locker search and there you go. Again, that's a great tip for a subtle way to guess someone may be in a locker using deduction and experience.
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Disagreement is not gaslighting, my friend, please don't misuse a term that important.
Regardless: There are a lot of cues to start searching lockers, it's just that 90% of the time those lockers are empty. The 10% of the time they search a locker with you in it is going to stick out in your mind, though, since you don't generally see whenever the killer searches an empty locker.
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Doesn't have to be running, he could've just seen him walking while he carried the survivor to the hook.
Yes 32M is a wide range, but he could've made a well good guess where your friend could be by looking where the gen is and where the closest locker is.
A mistake many survivors make is that they hide in close proximity of the gen while the best thing to do is get a good distance between you and the gen.
Yeah maybe my mistake when you talked about the basement, i thought you meant Micheal's house.
If you said the house of pain i would've understood it immediately.
But even here it could be whispers being played.
And because there's a gen down there, he just got lucky by opening the locker where you were in.
There are several lockers and he just got luck by chosing the right one, it happens.
And even here it is the same is said by the previous reply, survivors tent to hide in close proximity of the gen.
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You wouldn't believe the amount of times I've had people dc because of that or call me a cheater and say they're reporting me for cheating.
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It seriously happens too often to always just be "luck."
And if it's this so called "intuition" or "hunch," then what's the ######### point of Lockers if Killers are gonna know you're in them anyway?
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Lockers are just a random luck for survivor if a killer is close.
There are so many variables on why a killer knows/thinks/guess you're in that locker.
Many have given several examples on what these can be.
I always suggest to play killer and try to see it from their perspective.
Think about what you would do as killer and where to look, etc
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LOL at your usage of 'gas lighting.'
I usually get 1 'random' locker grab every 2-3 games.
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I got this some few times maybe my bad luck or they hacked.
The killer downed a survivor for at least I think 48 m away. So I walk up to the locker before he could hook that survivor. It is around 1.5 seconds for me after I've been entering locker successfully when survivor is hooked.
It was a random locker, I didn't left scratch marks or working gen and yep I was found.
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I was called a cheater by someone who messed up a Barbecue locker jump (the left too early). I went to the area, searched around for like 30 seconds before just checking the locker as at that point, it was pretty obvious they jumped back into it. He unironically sent me a message calling me a hacker after watching me search for him for an unreasonably long period of time.
If this was a normal game, I would have left with how long it was taking, but I needed the Dwight mask to finish my Leatherface collection.
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LMAO If you were cheating you'd have just immediately checked and prob teleported over to him anyway
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I also forgot yet another possible cause, killer instinct. Mostly occurs with legion, but I have just walked straight into killer shack as demo before and snatched a survivor out of the first locker I open without any obvious sign there are any survivors in the area. Portal on the outside of the shack keeping me informed :)
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There are aura reading perks like Undying which show auras if nearby. Some add-ons have aura reading (Myers, Wraith, Pig). It could be Discordance went off and only 1 survivor was located. BBQ/Whispers covers most of the map. Or it could be Thrilling Tremors/Deadlock/Surveillance & Ruin that can give general ideas of where survivors could be.
I also have seen Whispers + Static Blast been effective at finding locker hiders. If static blast is going off, they are most likely in a locker.
Sometimes they're lucky, sometimes they have good intuition because they play both roles and realize when/where most survivors will hide.
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Once again, I implore you, please re-evaluate the way you use lockers.
This really seems to be a gamesense/skill issue, especially given the content of your replies.
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Doctors can get a hunch from Hallucinations in the area or static blast not being triggered in an area where gens are being worked on
Victor's killer instinct goes off and abruptly stops in an area, Twins is running aura addon when you kick victor which lasts a while
You're coughing from Plague or Nemesis
They catch you entering a locker from BBQ
They hear the audio of the locker being opened or closed
Following Blood or scratch marks
Catch crows flying off or a crow is perched on a locker
Wearing headphones you can hear breathing
You ran past an Undying totem aura read.
Whispers perk
Pure dumb luck
Trickster or Huntress randomly reloading
Another survivor ratted you out without you knowing
Gen is being worked on after you kick it and no survivor in sight.
Just a few scenarios.
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Some things to consider;
- If you are injured you can easily be heard from inside a locker. Even though your sounds are muffled they are still loud enough for the killer to hear nearby.
- If you performed a fast action you are still breathing heavily and that can be heard from the locker, even though your sounds are muffled.
- Depending on your own connection to the server, and the Killers - they may have seen your aura before or after you got into a locker with an aura reading perk. It's better to get in a locker a few seconds before the Killer performs the hook, and wait out a few to 8 seconds after the killer hooks a survivor before getting out of a locker, to better avoid BBQ and other aura reading perks.
- Lockers block the reading of many abilities Killers have, but it does not block Killer Instinct from Killers such as Dried Cherry Blossom (Spirit Add-On), Mother's Glasses (Spirit Add-On), Feral Frenzy (Legion Power), Night Shroud (Ghostface Power), Of They Abyss (Demogorgon Power), Rites of Judgement (Pyramid Head Power), Blood Bond (Twins Power), T-Virus (Nemesis Power), Summons of Pain (Pinhead Power).
- Don't mistake the range of hearing a survivor getting in or out of a locker. Don't mistake the Killers FOV. Don't mistake the Killer seeing you from far away.
- Crows are snitching bastards.
- Killers can hear you running before or after getting into/out of a locker.
- Scratch Marks last longer than you may think.
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es intuición mas que nada.
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Example 1 was before Undying existed. And nobody had been hooked or picked up yet.
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- Has happened with many Killers, not Doctor specifically.
- Most of the situations were before Twins existed.
- No, I don't hide in Lockers while sick.
- I do it before BBQ triggers.
- Quick & Quiet.
- I do not run to the Locker, and the blood often disappears before they get there.
- I use Calm Spirit.
- They are not usually close enough to hear my breathing.
- Most of these situations were before Undying existed, and plus, I used Distortion now and would know if they have that.
- 32 meters is huge, why do they check that one specific Locker and in fact run straight to that one? It'd make sense if they looked around some first, but no.
- Happens far too much to just be luck.
- This one is true, but again, it's happened with about all Killers not just Huntress or Trickster specifically.
- In many cases there was no Survivor nearby to do that.
- I don't hide in Lockers near gens being repaired, unless they already checked it. Who checks the same Locker twice?
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If I hook someone and you were mid-animation getting into a locker, I've played the game long enough that I can usually determine how far away you are and which locker you're in by the direction your model is facing as your aura disappears.
Also, if you have Spies From the Shadows equipped, you will usually hear someone walking past you behind some rocks or bushes. If you have whispers equipped, you can tell someone is still in the area and one common place to hide is a locker.
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Why killers now someone in a locker? simple answer: half of them using esp, because soft cost is 15$ for month its nothing , +Devs dont care so... I kinda get used to esp and speedhacks
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How many times have I said that I'm ALREADY FULLY IN THE LOCKER?
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I don't always pick right, but if I have a hunch someone's in the area, I'm looking in that locker. I'm right 1/5 times or so.
It's not that hard to take a guess and be right every once in a while.
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Depending on when this happened, you/your friend could have been glitched visually on their screen to display your survivor to the left of the locker (outside of it).
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You've already had the answer explained to you in detail.
They guessed, or they saw or heard something or thought they saw or heard something or a perk is to blame. You can accuse everyone of cheating if that suits you as well but the truth is more likely just gut.
I hide in lockers all the time and rarely get caught, I also play a lot of killer and I can feel out whether the killer is gonna search lockers or just run off. It's one of the many reasons why playing both sides helps.
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It's called intuition. Just like some cops just happens to find you even if you were hiding very well from them. Some got it and some don't.
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Subtle hacking probably. There is a lot of cheating in the wild and unfortunately it is easier for killers to hide it.
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There are a million and one ways to determine that someone is in a locker.
- Sound of Locker opening
- Sound of breathing /injured noises
- Slamming Noise if rushed into the locker
- Walking in front of a locker to bait a rushed exit (The killer will not open the locker if the survivor doesn't take the bait)
- BBQ Aura
- Undying Aura
- Checking lockers near the last worked on Generator/ In addition to this, checking locker after discordance and only finding one survivor
- Checking for lockers towards end game when using the perk Whispers
- Checking the upstairs locker above the basement after hooking a survivor in the basement
- Legion finding individuals in locker with killer instinct
- Victor locking survivor in a locker when survivors used the locker to avoid going down
I'm not even covering half of the scenarios where you can say with a high certainty that there is a survivor.
And let's not even forget the dumb luck situations
- Randomly check a locker and you get lucky
- Don't see anyones aura on BBQ and they're trying to get hatch, best to check some lockers
- Obsessively checking lockers because the survivors are running Head On
- Opening lockers because your ability requires it - Huntress/ Trickster
- Opening a locker because a survivor went down in front of it and you opened it on accident (and someone was waiting to head-on save in the locker) Or maybe you suspected a head on play and opened it on purpose.
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Usually, it's:
- Process of elimination. I know you went this way, there is no way you could have gone left or right, so you must be in the locker.
- You've left a blood/scratch trail that abruptly vanishes at the locker.
- I heard you going in.
- I actually saw you going in.
- Sometimes, I just get lucky.
Far too many survivors watch Otz and co. doing crazy shenanigans with lockers, but don't quite understand how to pull it off. And no, stop accusing people of 'hacking' because they got lucky, or you didn't think.
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On top of the usual stuff sometimes the survivor will clip through the door.
When I check a locker its usually because:
- I seen scratch marks in the area but they lead nowhere. It takes awhile for scratch marks to go away. I think some people don't realize how long they stay for and that even though the time is seconds it is a long time when you remember how short it takes to do everything on here.
- I know the survivor is in the area but can't see them.
- Blood.
- You hear a door.
- You see someone heal themselves that couldn't have in time unless they used inner or a syringe.
- Touching back on first point, someone else's scratch marks can get you killed too esp if because of that they see the blood around the locker.
- Sometimes I seen the survivor go in the locker or a sign of it like in your first situation. I still go after the other person though because the person inside is more than likely gonna keep hiding inside thinking I don't know to go for a save.
- Crows activate too soon as is. I had a game where I got revealed by crows because the killer was in the locker area running around so I couldn't get out and there was a zombie camping the narrow hallway... So I couldn't get out, got revealed by crows. That should be addressed by making crows not activate until the TR is gone.
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Yeah ive been caught a few times and was like 'how on earth did you assume I was in there' its like they assumed I didn't just stealth in the other direction. I never search lockers because the survivor is always trying to loop me and I very rarely lose sight of them.
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So then what's the point in hiding in Lockers if they're just gonna know I'm in it?
And why don't they find me when I hide anywhere that isn't a Locker?
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You three, read the message below plz \/
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- Most common is sound. U can hear from about 15m someone went into locker. Mb even more but i run only 30% sound not 100%, so I'm not sure.
- BBQ. If u miss timing killer can see u are going into locker.
- Blood and scratch marks.
- If u suddenly disappeared and killer doesn't see any scratch marks or noises u are probably in locker.
- Visual bug. Sometime u can see survivors in lockers like if there were no lockers.
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Please scroll up and read my long message that states that most of those were not the case.
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I'm really not sure what you want people to say to you here- are you just fishing for people to say it's hackers or something?
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I read it and don't see anything special about it. I did same things as killer and i listed how i find survivors. U mb think killer didn't saw u and don't know u were there, but u can't be sure it's true for killer.
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Killers can't see through walls, last I checked. And there were often no perks that could've given me away either. Believe me, I really did test Lockers countless times, and I got found probably 80% of the time.
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Reading this thread is painful. Every possible (and probable) reason for why a killer can and will find you in a locker has been offered up, just to be told "No, I'm sure that's not it" with absolutely zero evidence to disprove any of the suggestions.
They hacked. They found you because they cheated. There, are you happy now? That's the answer you want.
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Meanwhile killer has sound, game mechanics, reshading, stretch res. Choose one. And if it's 80% and not 1 time from 100 then problem is on your side not killer.
Glad we found it out. Ty.
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I'm saying they aren't it because I know they aren't it.
Hacking is the only explanation I've been offered that makes any sense to me.
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