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Reasons why survivor number declines gradually
2. Being solo survivor is enough a reason on it’s own.
3. Survivors get less bp. If killer AFK still can get more bp than a tunneled survivor.
4. Other toxic survivors happen to be your teammate.
5. In red ranks it takes ages to find a lobby. Probably most of them either depip or swf with lower ranks to bully inexperienced killers.
6. Player pride or whatever reason they can’t take a hit or dislike the killer (I don’t know who they find likable) or get bored with a map and dc immediately.
7. Loading crashes that cause 3 vs 1 matches and more disconnects.
Some of the recent reasons I could think of right now. And yet here I am still waiting in a lobby as survivor, hoping this game would be better. What is it about this game that Keeps you hooked (no pun intended) Stockholm syndrome or what?
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devs fix game pls.
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Because while I can memorize the layouts i cant memorize how people play0
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When can we be able to talk in game with other survivors?? Also when will we be able to stay in a lobby with friends after the game ends?0
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I still get lobbies really fast, so I assume that the killer population is decreasing too?
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You know what would fix a lot of what's wrong with survivor? More BP per match.
Seriously, there is no fixing this game at this point. The can is opened and worms are everywhere. So mitigate the problems.
Bloodwebs are a huge grind now. So just give survivors more BP. It will be less irritating if you got bp for everything your party did while you were on the hook for 10 seconds or more. Camping is not so much an issue then. Same with tunneling. Give extra bp for being the killer's true obsession. The desparity between killer and survivor bp is nuts. No, you don't get more on survivor due to longer wait times for killers. See below:
My killer lobby averaged 17 minutes: Ran 2.5 matches in an hour. Got almost 200k bp (Double bp+pudding)
Survivor, I ran 3 matches in the same time and got 110k. Got tunneled in the first match, and made approximately 45k in each additional match. Ran escape cake in each.There is no comparing the two. Fix survivor bp, and much of the issues will be overlooked. (Don't fix it by rewarding toxic play - Blinds, chase, etc. Just some ambient aspects, like going x amount of time without being seen, etc. )
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Is this bait?
I really have to ask these days. Since it's basically a call for SWF buffs.3 -
I can't stop doubting the title.
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@Tsulan I don’t know which part made you think it is bait which I honestly don’t know what that means kinda newbie here, and certainly not understand how it is a call for swf buff.
@Boss like the title says, it is couple of reasons I could think of why it is sometimes frustrating as sole survivor.
@Oooooof Also not a cry for help to developers
I just wanted to share some of that frustration. Like talk it out feel better style.1 -
Is there any official confirmation about the decrease of survivors? First time i hear this.1
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@antgnstea said:
@Boss like the title says, it is couple of reasons I could think of why it is sometimes frustrating as sole survivor.Yeah, for you.
Never answered your question btw: Reason i stay is cause of Devour Hope.0 -
I have no problem playing as a solo survivor. It is really not that hard to survive in a match.1
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@antgnstea said:
@Boss
I save you the trouble “git gud”. That’s what you mean right?
Did I sound like it is published official records for everyone in the game. That wasn’t my intention to clarify.If i meant git gud, i would've said so, i'm not afraid to.
I just try to say what i want in a nice way, but moreso in a honest way.No clue what your second line is about.
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1. Camping has been in the game since the beginning. It even was a announced feature.antgnstea said:@Tsulan I don’t know which part made you think it is bait which I honestly don’t know what that means kinda newbie here, and certainly not understand how it is a call for swf buff.
@Boss like the title says, it is couple of reasons I could think of why it is sometimes frustrating as sole survivor.
@Oooooof Also not a cry for help to developers
I just wanted to share some of that frustration. Like talk it out feel better style.
2. That's not a reason. I mainly play solo.
3. Survivors and killers get roughly the same amount of bloodpoints per hour.
4. True, but I doubt people would leave because of that.
5. Lobby is bugged. Or at least that's what many people think. Devs ######### up the lobby several times over the years. This or piping is to hard for some people.
6. That's a disconnect but not a reason to permanently leave the game.
7. Same.0 -
@Tsulan said:
powerbats said:@Tsulan said:
Is this bait?
I really have to ask these days. Since it's basically a call for SWF buffs.
The killer main bias is strong in this one and what in his post even suggested swef buffs since it's like you've got this swf bogeyman bug.
@antgnstea said:
Camping and tunneling
**Being solo survivor is enough a reason on it’s own. **
Survivors get less bp. If killer AFK still can get more bp than a tunneled survivor.
Other toxic survivors happen to be your teammate.
In red ranks it takes ages to find a lobby. Probably most of them either depip or swf with lower ranks to bully inexperienced killers.
Player pride or whatever reason they can’t take a hit or dislike the killer (I don’t know who they find likable) or get bored with a map and dc immediately.
Loading crashes that cause 3 vs 1 matches and more disconnects.
Some of the recent reasons I could think of right now. And yet here I am still waiting in a lobby as survivor, hoping this game would be better. What is it about this game that Keeps you hooked (no pun intended) Stockholm syndrome or what?
I mean I've even bolded #2 here where it's quite obvious the op is talking about solo.
There's also no mention in his post anywhere about swf buffs and the common denominator in all your posts about swf is you, the person that can't handle them. There's plenty of us that don't have an issue with them and don't run off like Courage The Cowardly Dog the moment we see anything that even resembles an swf group.
Can you make a single comment without claiming that I'm biased?
This starts to get annoyingly personal.
You are not biased, don't worry but you don't look at it from the survivor side much to be fair.
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I agree that solo survivor is too weak. A built in Kindred would suffice. Really, It'd close the gap between solo and SWF since as of right now, there's 5 killers who can deal with that closed gap. That is Nurse, Billy, Hag, Spirit and Myers. They will not be hindred at all. Then just buff killers who become unplayable. I.e, Pig, Doctor, Freddy and Leatherface. That's all we need. Problem is, last time a built in kindred was suggested, killer mains kicked up a storm. I'm a survivor main again btw since I'm good as killer but I suck as survivor now and maining killer has got kind of old since I do really well as most the killers I play, that is Nurse, Spirit and Hag. I play Billy a lot but I suck as him but I've started to improve ^^. Just add a built in kindred and rework the current kindred. That is it.
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I actually don't think there is a decline in numbers of survivors - 37k peak players today which is an actual increase in recent numbers.
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is an increase during double bp event really an increase? I know I swapped to survivor from killer simply because of the ridiculous wait times...MandyTalk said:I actually don't think there is a decline in numbers of survivors - 37k peak players today which is an actual increase in recent numbers.
and yea... barely made a third of the bp I would have as killer.0 -
Heres my thoughts on why players wouldn't wanna continuously play survivor.....
1.) Same repetitive gameplay..... no matter what map it is it's the samething.... gen sim, pallet mechanics, etc.... this has been the same for over 2 years now
2.) Items.... we've had the same damn items for again over 2 years
3.) limited "skill" to learn... theres only so many fakes... window fake, pallet fake etc.. this causes again things to get old and boring fast...
4.) And the biggest issue I have.... limited gameplay... theres overall a very restrictive feeling to the game when it comes to both sides actually when it comes to items, addons and such... both sides should be able to sell their items and this could help a little bit with the grind.... but the main focus is with survivors.... survivor is overall uninteresting because of the lack of gameplay... you cant do squat and the most entertaining thing is the chase... theres no sort of objective or even the ability to go into a match with the intention of farming some sort of material to craft with or find something to sell anything... the potential for the survivor side could be endless but the devs overall just..... are... lazy?? I guess??... both sides have put in input on this topic that survivors gameplay is boring and this is a reason why games go by so damn fast it's because of the lack of gameplay.... if there was something else for them to do that was fun and interesting it could make for more players to stick around for solo runs...
That's my take on it.... not the crap that makes OP salty this thang of tunnels and camped and blah blah. . It's the stuff I listed I mean like really over 2 years and one damn new item to freshen gameplay up the same damn addons that make skillchecks bigger? The ######### ?
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@MandyTalk said:
I actually don't think there is a decline in numbers of survivors - 37k peak players today which is an actual increase in recent numbers.And how many of those are trying to play killer? I know my ques are long. There is a problem, but overhauling the game is not how to fix it. Extra bp to survivors is.
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When you said for you here I assumed it is what you saying. Sorry for miscommunication.Boss said:@antgnstea said:
@Boss like the title says, it is couple of reasons I could think of why it is sometimes frustrating as sole survivor.Yeah, for you.
Never answered your question btw: Reason i stay is cause of Devour Hope.
Second line was not really about you, I should have separated your tag.
I feel like I couldn’t express myself correctly just attempting to fix that.0 -
Yes, the numbers are down from September, they are also up from April 2018 when there was 12k average a day compared to 19k average over the last few months.
I'm not disagreeing that BP for survivors couldn't be increased, I'd love that personally. I'm only disputing the fact about declining numbers.
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And Happy New Year to you too @WalterWh1te Wish you every happiness and success in 2019
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@antgnstea said:
Boss said:@antgnstea said:
@Boss like the title says, it is couple of reasons I could think of why it is sometimes frustrating as sole survivor.
Yeah, for you.
Never answered your question btw: Reason i stay is cause of Devour Hope.
When you said for you here I assumed it is what you saying. Sorry for miscommunication.
Second line was not really about you, I should have separated your tag.
I feel like I couldn’t express myself correctly just attempting to fix that.No worries.
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first of all wow how did we come here. I made some dumb reasoning based on increasing waiting times on killer lobbies and assumed that must be because of people switching to killer more often than before. Based on my experience. because how I feel about being survivor sometimes. That was it. Never said dbd player number was down. Never displayed any statistics. I don’t pretend to know official numbers.0 -
I'm spending more time trying to play solo survivor than I do waiting as killer. Either I'm the first survivor and swf fills the rest or I'm the last to show up. When I do end up waiting its because not enough people play solo.0
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@Tsulan
camping or tunneling may be in game mechanics does that make them lovable? Who loves being unhooked and hooked within minutes. Me being “salty” about them doesn’t mean I expect something to be done about them. That was kind of the gist there, still playing after all the complaining.
@Bravo0413
can’t someone share an opinion maybe different than yours and still have a point. Your reasons are solid mine are crap as you call them. Also I am being salty. That’s not one sided at all.0 -
@Schorts94
1. I play killer as well and of course it may change to the survivors I am up against. Time to time I also use this methods to get a kill or just a hook. Also I admire who camps efficiently cause it is harder than it seems for me. But you can’t deny this playing style can be a little boring for the recipient.
2. Just curiosity how do you suggest they nerf swf without effecting survivors in general.
3. I didn’t know WGLF gives extra bp for just running it. Because especially this event times good luck getting an unhook. There is basically a race towards the hook when someone got hooked.
5. Killer lobbies takes forever either there are many killers than it should be or less survivors to play in that rank which was the point of the post.
Other numbers self explanatory I didn’t wanna do anything about them in the first place.0 -
So you do gens. You dodge killer. You unhook your teammates. Not get downed in the process. Open gate and walk through, huh? Yeah I mean seems so simple. Something must be missing with me then.Iceman said:I have no problem playing as a solo survivor. It is really not that hard to survive in a match.0 -
I know solo is hard. Because other survivors are more dangerous than the killer. I've died countless times because they failed a skill check, unhooked in front of the killer without BT, etc.Poweas said:@Tsulan said:
powerbats said:@Tsulan said:
Is this bait?
I really have to ask these days. Since it's basically a call for SWF buffs.
The killer main bias is strong in this one and what in his post even suggested swef buffs since it's like you've got this swf bogeyman bug.
@antgnstea said:
Camping and tunneling
**Being solo survivor is enough a reason on it’s own. **
Survivors get less bp. If killer AFK still can get more bp than a tunneled survivor.
Other toxic survivors happen to be your teammate.
In red ranks it takes ages to find a lobby. Probably most of them either depip or swf with lower ranks to bully inexperienced killers.
Player pride or whatever reason they can’t take a hit or dislike the killer (I don’t know who they find likable) or get bored with a map and dc immediately.
Loading crashes that cause 3 vs 1 matches and more disconnects.
Some of the recent reasons I could think of right now. And yet here I am still waiting in a lobby as survivor, hoping this game would be better. What is it about this game that Keeps you hooked (no pun intended) Stockholm syndrome or what?
I mean I've even bolded #2 here where it's quite obvious the op is talking about solo.
There's also no mention in his post anywhere about swf buffs and the common denominator in all your posts about swf is you, the person that can't handle them. There's plenty of us that don't have an issue with them and don't run off like Courage The Cowardly Dog the moment we see anything that even resembles an swf group.
Can you make a single comment without claiming that I'm biased?
This starts to get annoyingly personal.
You are not biased, don't worry but you don't look at it from the survivor side much to be fair.
SWF solves this problem. Because everyone knows what's going on. That's why I proposed several times to add a ingame voice chat. So solo players can communicate like SWF.
I know that this would tip the balance terribly towards survivors. The devs would require to buff killers hard after that.
My proposal usually gets shot down.1 -
i'd be totally fine with a 25% buff to survivor BP gains
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