So deathslinger is unplayable now

Yeah, and I never mentioned lunging at all.

I did mention Wraith after talking about M1's and mentioning very different attack animations, after talking about how I like to M1 a lot more than shoot on Slinger. I never once said lunge or anything else.

I implied they were different, and clarified that in my experience they seem to be. And I'm hardly new to the game lmao. I'm ok with being wrong, I'm not ok with people engineering conversations and putting words in my mouth.

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Lol yikes

I just needed one game to desist

May I recommend nurse. It might technically not be a ranged killer but your almost as fast as slinger and when you think about it your the bullet. Also you get to bypass obnoxious map issues like breakable walls and multiple story buildings. That would be my advice to the Deathslinger players in general. Pick up nurse play something that rewards you for time invested. We gave feedback behavior didn't listen time to move on. Most content creators or survivors will not be happy with slinger until he stays in an overnerfed state. Blight add on's will likely be next. A key advantage to consider is nurse doesn't have enough players playing her to provoke a nerf blight does. Already the blighted crow, alchemist ring add ons op has started. Behavior doesn't do half measure so expect some nasty addition be made to blight.

This topic is very interesting so I'll chime in.

Ranged killers emulate longer lunges. Unlike normal lunges, Normal lunges have no cast time or wind-up and activate instantly. They're also harder to hit miss because you curve their hitbox which is why 360's are not effective vs competent killers.

Deathslinger's gun was closest thing to an extended 18 meters lunge as wind-up of his gun was only 0.15 seconds+travel time. I'd wager travel time was somewhere between 0.2-0.8 seconds. It gave you just enough time to react to hit gun as long you weren't pointblank. His gun extended his lunge range because when your hit by his gun, the gun is stun and it restricts your movement. It allowed most loops to be unsafe, though it largely dependent on where he shot you from.

If the survivor is really good at judging distance, most of the killers cannot reposition themselves to be in lunge range(Such as Nurse) or do not have enough lunge distance to capitalize on fast-vaulting pallets due to the length of a wall. so if a pallet is safe, you can generally camp it until killer breaks the pallet. There isn't such thing as medium vaulting pallets like there is for windows. His power largely balances out the 1vs1 aspect for killer in my opinion.

I think the reason why survivor hated deathslinger and also trickster is that deathslinger can rotate open-pallets at 110% and even though he is only 10% faster, they still catch up to the survivor slowly, so eventually deathslinger will instant quickscope a shot as he approaches closer to you and good deathslinger have a good understanding how much durability their chain has and which shots they can reel compare which shots they cannot. So for most part, deathslinger broke typical mold of loop pallet twice->put down pallet->killer breaks pallet->shift-w safely to another loop.

I think the reason why people do not really complain about huntress doing that at open loops is largely because her hatchet has 1.25 second wind-up and requires additional 1.75 seconds of extra charge up(3 sec total) and during this time, she is very slow, She also has a much easier to read throwing motion as she does not throw hatchet instantly. if I had to take a guess, its probably like 0.25 seconds from her releasing the hatchet, experienced survivors can sometimes crouch her hatchets when rotating open pallets and pre-move before she throws it though the hitbox is pretty large. Overall I do not really understand the whole trickster and huntress aspect because in my opinion, A skilled Huntress should be able to down a single survivor within 3 hatchets throws, so I personally do not really understand too much about the whole trickster 44 knives too much ammo argument. If survivors actually played trickster, they'd realize he has too little ammo and constantly reloads twice as much as Huntress. Deathslinger having infinity ammo to do this probably puts false impression that he is impossible to counter at these loops, but he is no different than what other ranged killers could achieve with average aim.

Overall the whole deathslinger "can't react to his shots" just boils down to not being able to 1vs1 killer therefore killer is unfair & unfun. You'll just have to find a new main for killer for like 2 years until survivor's stop complaining deathslinger and he gets reverted from being pathetic. Survivor fun is clearly prioritized over killer fun. So it does not matter that he is unplayable vs good players because that is the case for most of killer cast.

As someone who bought this game specifically for Deathslinger, this nerf was annoying. Moving quicker while ADS is really useless as if you are moving too quick you’re more likely to miss as this nerf has just made it more aim around the survivor and wait for them to come into your iron sights than aim at the survivor, and I hate that as it takes away the skill of aiming. But other than that he still plays mostly the same.

free zoning on survivors not paying attention, can still land hits around certain loops. As I said this nerf has taken away the skill of aiming and replaced it with: just put the gun up around them and wait til they come into the iron sights.

Deathslinger isn't unplayable nor impossible to work with. He's just worse and a lot more unfun. I do agree that the change was a bit much.

But the whole point of the quickscope is that you can't realistically dodge it except for hoping that the Slinger misses. You can dodge when he actually aims, but if he quickscopes you don't have enough time to react. That's the entire reason he was changed to begin with, combined with the fake-into-hit problem.

Slinger's problem right now is that he feels clunky, and I'd suggest just making him raise his gun a touch faster so it doesn't feel as clunky without being as fast as the quickscope was before.