This game will never be balanced

No killer with the exception of nurse stands a snowballs chane against survs running all meta perks and high end items. Thats why comp has so many rules about what perks, items and maps can play. Even then the game is fairly lopsided.

i mean.. to be fair, this is an asymmetrical game.

So that means it cant be balanced? That sounds like a logical fallacy.

i'm just going to leave this here.

That does not mean a game can't be balanced. Ya just gotta try to make the four on one side collectively as close to balanced compared to the one on the other side as possible.

You could play make believe and delete your account.

oh hello TAG :0

i'm not implying that it cannot be 'balanced'. based on my understanding on this community's idea of 'balance', it can very much have changes to help benefit both sides. however, because of the nature of the game and its type, you're still going to have issues that will always maintain some sort of unbalance for both parties, RNG being one of them. the game is designed to feature unbalanced dynamics for a reason, and it's to keep it from becoming stale or boring for most people. think of it as like a board game like 'sorry!' or a card game like UNO. they're, by logic, asymmetrical party games as well because of the RNG factor of the cards and whichever rulesets you decide to use.

in this case, the "ruleset" of dead by daylight is hook and kill or escape, and the RNG is your maps, tiles, perks of the other side, etc.

that's why i decided to respond to this thread's title, which is "this game will never be balanced", because they're actually right; it never will be balanced! i just thought it'd be fun to bring this point to the table.

Hmm, I think you may be on to something. 🤔

TRUE

Too many survivors want equal 1v1.

There are a fair number of players who incorrectly believe that the game is supposed to be balanced so that half the time the killers stop all the gens and the other half of the time the survivors finish all the gens. That's not accurate though, what the devs actually want is for the most common results to be some survivors escape and some survivors die, and the least common results to be everybody escapes or everybody dies. But what that means is that, in most games between equally skilled players, 1-3 survivors will escape through the gates and therefore in most games the gens will be done.

So when you go into the game as a killer expecting that half the time you'll be able to stop the gens if you played well, you're actually going into the game with the wrong expectation. What you should really be expecting on average is that roughly half the time you get 0-2 kills and the other half you get 2-4 kills, and most of those games will be in the 1-3 kills range with the exits open. That's what the devs are presumably looking for in their data. I doubt they're "unaware of the game balance", they just have a different desired goal for the end results on average and are balancing around that.

no they balance around new players. hence why ruin go changed to be where it is now. Ruin in low ranks will get tons of value cause they will move at the sound of a tr or spine chill proc getting free value but in high ranks it either goes in 20 second or it stays up the entire match but gens still get done fast

The game is 1v4, meaning that in a perfect world the combined efforts of 4 perfectly played survivors should equal the efforts of the one perfectly played killer.

Unfortunately the world isn't perfect, and so survivors are granted a noticable edge to make up for human error in their individual and collaborative decision making. This survivor-favored game-play actually needs to exist to some degree since it is absolutely harder to work in a group than it is to rely on yourself.

The sucky thing is that the skill-cap for the core mechanics of this game (generators) is quite low and the player-base is also largely casual.

Because it's casual, people are more likely to goof around on a regular basis, requiring a larger handicap to be provided for the side requiring team collaboration. Because the skill cap for objective taking is rather low, it's easy for even relatively unskilled groups of survivors to take control of games if they want to get serious.

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In short, as long as this is a casual game and the objective (generators) in this game is simplistic in nature, this game well forever remain survivor-sided.

But also keep in mind that a casual audience looking for a quick and easy thrill is their target market nowadays.

So expect things to never change anytime soon.