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Alchemist Ring isn't as bad as people say
As a Blight main, with a good few hundred hours dipped into him, close to 1K, people who complain about Alchemist Ring don't seem to understand its only strong if you allow it to be.
There is a simple way to counter Alchemist Ring, and its knowing how to play against Blight with more emphasis on playing around his rushes. You need good positioning to counter alchemist ring, that is it. Alchemist will only be overwhelmingly strong if you are on a map with few tiles, but on maps like Coal Tower, or Red Forest, or over half the maps in the game, there will be a few tiles in the map that can be played around and if you know how to play against Blight, you can use these tiles to play against the Ring, while this may sound condescending, its really a simple matter of don't get hit by the rush, and sometimes you will, and it sucks, but that's just a matter of positioning, don't let yourself be out positioned.
People calling for a nerf, and some calling for it to be outright removed from the game don't seem to grasp the basic counter to this addon. It's not too strong since it has a counter you can do with enough practice. Just because something is good, doesn't make it op.
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Thing is that unless you try to combine it with movement speed add-on, when you can lose all charges for nothing, there is no drawback to it.
Yeah, play around it? Blight will hit you sooner or later with it even if you are tournament player.
How I would fix it, two ways:
-Nerf maximum number of charges by 1
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-Successful hit recovers up to 3 charges
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"Just don't get hit" is not a counter. It has the same of vibe of "just pressure gens".
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With a movement speed addon it's still a matter of positioning regardless, that doesn't change, the only draw back to these addons are if the survivors knows what they're doing.
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A killer shouldn’t be able to spam their power like that with just an add on that has no downsides.
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"Don't get hit by the rush" yeah I don't think you have ever seen how hard that genuinely is without dead hard as I have been hit by a rush that clearly did not hit 1 too many times
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You didn't read fully then, the don't get hit remark is more so to put a emphasis on the better positioning point, since you won't get hit if you do have good positioning.
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Played against Alchemist Ring before, a lot actually, only ever is a problem if I'm out positioned.
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I read your post fully. You wrote "just don't get hit" but with extra words.
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Can only spam it if you allow him to land the rush, which if you have good positioning, wont happen.
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What is that downside? Everything is back to normal? Oh, no so bad...
What is benefit? You basically ignore you power's CD.
It is not just about survivor's positioning, it's also about Blight. Not every loop can save you from him and some loops have big distance between eachother, so Blight will catch you no matter what. If your "tip" would work, that means Blight will never get down unless he plays as basic m1 killer, which is BS.
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If it was that easy to avoid Blight, no one will consider him to be S tier below Nurse.
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same energy as "just duck iri heads"
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No, that's you disregarding my whole emphasis on better positioning, if you have good positioning, the don't get hit remark makes since, because if you have better positioning, you won't get hit by the rush, not a hard concept to understand, the rush has limits.
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I never said it was easy LOL, it's going to be difficult, but doable nonetheless
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Yeah which is really often as Blight's power is a movement/zoning, so he can always out position
This is coming from someone who literally plays blight and has used Alchem ring before, you can always out position a survivor with Alchemist Ring and even without it you can if you are good enough, and with his UR with it you can always confirm that the survivor is out positioned, which is literally the exact same thing as "Don't get hit"
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maps have limits too and there is distance you need to travel as survivor between each loop...
You just can't avoid getting hit by his power whole game, that's impossible unless he is really bad...
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Just pressure gens on mother's dwelling
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Downside being you've lost your power and now have to wait for it to return to try again, the downside, many other killers have.
Also, a lot of loops Blight can catch up to you, he's like Bubba in the sense that if you want to live, you have to drop, and you can get to the pallet most times before the Blight reaches you to drop the pallet, still, countering the Ring is all about positioning. My tip does work, most Blights typically either play the loops m1 killer style or leave it all together, means something is working.
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Most maps have filler pallets unless you're playing a map like Shelter Woods, so you should be fine, although even then, if you're going to actively run into the open trying to make it to a long wall instead of playing around a filler pallet, thats on you.
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Alchemist Ring is easily one of the most broken addons in the game currently, if not the most broken. You simply saying "Just don't get hit" doesn't make any sense. Good Blight's will get hits on you, even if you pre-drop the safest pallets in the game you'll soon be hit when they're broken.
It should be nerfed, even if that means instead of recharging ALL tokens, recharging e.g. 2 tokens. This means if you get a hit within the 2nd rush you'll get all your tokens back instantly. But for any hits with rushes after that you'll still get your all your tokens back faster, but not instantly. This allows survivors to at least get some distance on you and would still be a very powerful addon.
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Oh, right, it's not like those pallets get removed, so end game you will get hit...
Alright tell me how is it different from not using that add-on?
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Not a matter of me saying don't get hit, my counter is better positioning, which will in turn make it were you wont get hit for a fair amount of time, there are quite a few tiles in this game that Blight actually can't rush around, those are the best when it comes to countering the ring.
A blight can out position you easily, if you don't constantly keep yourself in a good position, which, you won't always be able to do, which is fair, sometimes you'll be cucked by the addon, doesn't make it over powered, if an addon is strong but has a counter that is doable if you know how to play against Blight, I think its fine, although if you want to nerf it, the way you said, it wont change much since if you're out positioned a good blight will get his rushes back instantly since they don't need to use all their rushes to get a hit at certain tiles.
It's also definitely not the most busted while addons that give Nurse a 3rd Blink or Engineers Fang exist.
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If the pallets get removed then you're still going to have the same problem endgame the same with any other killer, if you have to drop pallets early and you create a deadzone, Blight isn't going to be the only killers whos going to ######### you up endgame, its just a matter of how fast you get ######### up.
Also the only difference is the fact that you're rewarding for you out positioning the survivor in question, which is on the survivor for not being in a good position. Again, Alchemist Rings counter is Blights normal counter. Nothing changes except you have to play better when it comes to avoiding the rush.
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I'll say it again, your whole post boils down to "just don't get hit". It doesn't offer a solution to why people complain about Alchemist Ring. It just makes you look silly because you probably only play using it.
It's an addon that completely removes one of the counters to Blight, which is forcing him to use all of his 5 tokens to hit you so you can get to a safe position while he's still on cooldown. With the Ring a Blight can hit you and completely disregard the speed boost survivors get when they get injured.
I know what "better positioning" is, everybody with 2 braincells knows what it is. What you're describing is just a general counter to Blight, it doesn't change the fact Alchemist Ring completely removes one of the counters to an already super strong killer in his basekit. I play Blight myself and I know how easy mode it is playing with it.
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all I read was "just do bones" or something
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The only point boils down to making sure you're in a good position, even if a Blight hits you as you're trying to enter a good position, if you get into that good position, you're going to make it rough for him.
Most the people who complain about the Ring, get caught out of position or in a bad one.
You just described the addon, it removes one of the biggest down sides to Blight, which is good, its a very rare addon for a reason and whats the issue about having a strong addon? There isn't one. Also he will only ignore the speed boost you get and catch then instantly, if you're out positioned, right?
Yes, it is a general counter to Blight to have better positioning, and this addon, doesn't increase his speed, doesn't make the rush insta down, it makes his base kit a constant if he can get the lethal rush hits, which he will only get if you counter Blight normally, the addon isn't as bad as people make it out to be if you just have to counter Blight normally to counter the addon.
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I mean yeah, just do bones lol
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What you don't get is that Blight is considered S tier for a reason: he is in control of the chase. Sure there are some places where his power sucks, but on most loops against a good Blight everything you can do is delay him by making him spend all his Tokens, and the Ring completely removes that delay.
At the end of the day it's up to the Blight player to hit you, which is a good thing, more killers should be like that, but they must have counters and Ring removes one of the few of them. That's why it's an oppressive addon on a good Blight.
Yes, purple addons should be strong, but they should never enhance that much an already very strong killer even without addons. The ideal spot for me imo is Oni, except for his pinks and browns, most of his addons provide nice and good effects without being utterly oppressive to go against.
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You really just said "don't get hit" huh.
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Imagine if spirit had a purple addon where she instantly gets her power back every time she post phase hits a survivor. It's basically the equivalent of that. And if you don't think that's overkill then idk what to tell you
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I cant remember the last time i saw a blight not have alchemist ring equipped.
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I'm not sure. imagine if spirit or nurse had similar addons?
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Yeah just position yourself better, stay in a jungle gym the whole game. Who cares about gens and doing your objective. This addon is broken and needs a nerf, blight is already very strong.
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