This game is UNFIXABLE, please STOP.

Or, hear me out, they could just get rid of face camping.

There can be comprise/ solution on both sides if we discuss it with people who play both sides and not afraid to nerf both sides. But usually it's survivor mains blaming killer mains and wise versa without trying to understand how things work. As u do it here for example.

And Dh is not fine at all. If u think it's Ok, then play without it and compare results. Even if u play without it, it's so strong that every single killer thinks u have it and gives u time to use it and only then stabs u.

Same goes with Ds and Bt.

I have played multiple games with 0 perks and it was quite surprising experience because I could trick killer into thinking i have certain perk and he let me go cause of it. If only he knew....

Survivors currently are strong as Nurse players. They have everything to destroy lower tier killers and it pisses people who don't play Nurse. So my apologies, but crying won't stop no matter how hard u want to shut them up.

Beside the fact that BHVR has bigger fishes to fry with NFTs right now, there is merit to what OP says. The two issues are indeed related. Are they fixable? Maybe. Would they require a lot of work? Yes. Is BHVR willing to go through the hassle? Probably not (see point about NFTs).

As of now, both issues are band-aided with perks, one with slowdown/regression and the other one with BT+DS. The rest is left to RNGesus.

It would require something pretty drastic, probably. Something along the lines of (and let's be clear, I'm not advocating that this should or shouldn't happen, I'm merely pointing out what it would entail imho, which also brings up the point of how deeply that would affect the game): remove hook grabs and make a no-interference zone around the hook where killer powers cannot reach. Not just disabled, the power shouldn't physically reach as in the Entity intervenes with tentacles or something. Basically, only M1s within a certain range of the hook. The concept is that it would be possible to try to force the 1 for one, but avoid situations where there would be a 1 for none in favor of the facecamper.

Throwing a projectile? The Entity despwans it. Spamming Doc shocks? The Entity says no, your shockwave stops here, no action interrupts for you. Are you zooming around with a high-mobility power? No no no, no running inside this circle.

And so on and so forth.

The funny thing is that unless it's a pretty wide radius, or the effect lingers for a bit under conditions TBD, Bubba could still camp almost as effectively. Hilarious.

An alternative would be the cage relocation mechanic of PH applied to hooks as well. But that could be easily circumvented by many killers. PH himself can already do it.

See point about band-aiding with perks. The perk tax is their solution. Now, when you run out of perk slots to fix core design flaws, that's when the issue sparks attention.

Try to use many second chance perks to delay the first sacrifice of the match as much as possible!

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So glad I'm not the only one who understands this. The mechanics of this game are too exploitable. In order to fix the game they would have to rebuild the game from the ground up. They avoid doing that and give the game bandaid fixes hoping to fix things but they never work.

The killer already loses points for staying too close to the hook with no survivor present, its been like this for years - since the introduction of the emblem system iirc, it just doesn't do a good job of telling killers they are losing points as this would give away that no survivors are near I guess. Its similar with unsafe unhooks; I still regularly see people 'farming' each other off hook in front of the killer and they obviouslt don't realise that if the killer downs the unhooked survivor before a few seconds have passed, they actually lose more points than they gained by unhooking.

I'm also a fan of awarding the hooked survivor 'distraction' points or something.

The way to fix facecamping though is to stop encouraging it by feeding the camper by playing exactly how they want. If survivors are going to try for an unhook before the killers back is turned or they've had chance to walk any distance away then it teaches killers to float near the hook as they know survivors are mostly incapable of leaving those juicy unhook points hanging for a few seconds in case another teammate takes them. If you play survivor with any aura reading perks you can clearly see them doing this on an alarmingly regular basis; I will be alone on a gen and can see the other 2 circling the hooked survivor with the killer visible through Kindred and inevitably one of more goes down and the game is basically over at this point as they end up just trading hook states.

Even at high MMR I've commonly seen a killer get stomped all game to get 1 at the end that turns into 3/4 because survivors wont just leave and take the win, they want absolute domination and it often costs them everthing.

I have to wonder though, how many survivors actually want to raise their MMR for harder games and just take all the points earned during the match and throw at the end so they don't get classed as 'winning' even if they've dominated all game. Heck I've even had survivors refuse to leave with the gates open so they die to EGC and not raise MMR even though they destroyed me and the match was 'over' in minutes but they waited by the exit wanting to be hooked or die to the Entity which either doesn't change their MMR despite a win, or actually changes mine as a killer who absolutely lost so it looks like I killed them and they died.