Hag nerf/rework when?
I just love me a killer requires zero skill in chase! Simply hook one survivor, and you're set to snowball the rest of the game for free! The survivor unhooks themself? No problem, the traps around the hook will go off! anyways!
Seriously, how this killer has been allowed to exist in this game so long is beyond any comprehension. At the very least, traps need to be disarmed whenever a survivor is unhooked. That is a reasonable change that would be a great start in the right direction.
BHVR, do something about Hag!!!
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Only thing she needs is traps deactivating around the hook. Saying she takes no skill is a bit of a reach though.
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The Hag is fine in my opinion. Although I don't love having to couch when against her, there is nothing inherently too strong about her ability.
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No skill in chase. Her whole power is premised around proxy camping. Awful design.
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I’m assuming you just got clapped by a good Hag and then came to forums to whine about it.
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You could make the same argument about Leatherface.
He only needs a single down to snowball the entire game.
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Her power is strategic. Not every killer needs to require insane mechanical skill
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She's not a chaser killer. She's a strategic trapping killer. She sets up a web and guards a section of the map. If chasing killers are your thing then there's plenty of them to choose from.
But not every killer is going to be fun for everyone. That's just not possible. The important thing is her power does have counterplay. Its killers who's power have no proper counterplay that are an issue.
Personally Hag is the killer I see the least of. I can go weeks and not a face a Hag.
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You know what they say about assuming. I wouldn't consider any killer good or bad based on them playing Hag. She first hooked me after a down with NOED, much skill. And, who cares if that's what prompted me to write the post? If something is broken, it is broken.
Yep, which is why I advocate for no killer powers being activatable within a small radius of a hooked survivor. Enough with this crap already!
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i agree that she and maybe bubba needs a nerf when it comes to camping.
that idea that she cant spam all traps around a hook anymore sounds good.
Hag has one of the lowest pickrate by all killers and has a ton of counterplay, but a lot of survivors dont know how to play against her. when a swf knows, you can feel very helpless as hag.
outside of the "mintrag camp with make your choice", she is not too easy to play and requires some knowleg about survivor movement, time- and trapmanagement etc. and she is a 110% killer without a range attack.
but she is a noob/solo survivor stomper.
if she was a no skill 4k killer, she would have a much higher pickrate.
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Much counterplay.
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Dude just take the L and move on. You lost, it’s not a big deal.
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Only bad Hag players play like that. Much like bad Bubbas camp. If they hang around the hook then gen rush them. That's the counterplay. Sure they secure a kill but they lose their gens.
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good killers strong nerf "when they face a billy" gg ezzz lololol nooob get rekt
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B tier killer there is nothing wrong with Hag. Follow her and disarm her traps and the rest can do gens, then escape. Repeat!
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Wha...
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Hag is fine IMO.
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Hag's counterplay is similar to Trapper's. She needs her traps.
If you bait her to a zone where she has no traps, she has no power.
If you harry her and activate her traps on your own terms, she has no power.
If you go for the unhook when she is animation locked, she can't immediately teleport back.
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She has up to 10 traps on demand. If there are no traps already in that area, she takes a couple seconds to set one, forcing the survivor to the next loop.
Animation lock accounts for very little of a game and isn't always available. Plus she can just slug.
Survivors need a basekit way to wipe away her traps, or have them automatically disarm around a hooked survivor.
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Nerf: Traps can't be set around survivors that are hooked.
Buff: Traps can't be activated when carrying a survivor.
Buff: Add addons that increase the number of traps the hag can set.
That's all I'd change about Lisa
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Never. Get good.
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OP got outplayed.
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Crouch and/or use a flashlight?
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If the hag does that she loses her web.
If the survivor just runs to the next loop each time she puts down a trap, she's wasting time and traps. That is how a hag loses.
You can't play against her like other killers and that's fine.
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There is a basekit way, just walk near it, then quickly move away before she teleports.
When she stops to put down a trap, keep moving. Let her spend the time setting a trap thats not part of her web. She's a slow killer, take advantage of wasted time, then destory the trap later on your terms.
Her counterplay just requires effort.
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See meme above. Flashlights are an item not always available to a survivor. Plus, flashlight = limited use vs. unlimited traps. Which it also alerts the Hag when traps are disarmed from flashlights.
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As a Hag main I have to agree that setting traps around the hook is unfair. Pyramid Head can't place trails immediately around the hook so why can Hag? It promotes scummy play styles and that's why a lot of people hate Hag is because she's got a reputation for camping.
All that being said she is FAR from being a no skill killer. Hag requires a lot of thinking and setup to do well with her. She's a 4D Chess killer lol
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Quit whining. Grow up. All y'all do is scream and cry for nerfs.
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No skill in chase? Ok...
Understood if you just complain about 20 trap basement Hags but not ones that setup and chase you into their traps.
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she is a Trap killer she is fine i guess that you got clapped by a good Hag and then came here to cry about it
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Okay, let's add
a) running through the traps to draw the Hag off preferably with someone standing by to unhook if the Hag takes the bait
b) unhooking when the Hag is in a chase
c) unhooking when the Hag is carrying someone
d) if there's no Make a Choice in play unhook and take a protection hit if you don't have Borrowed Time
And, of course, crouching and flashlights.
There' a lot of counterplay to and ways to waste a Hag's time
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"Clapped" - reading comprehension is not your suit. Her first down against me was with NOED in solo queue. Yes, very much skilled killer. The biased killer mains on this forum are unreal.
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Do bones and what do you mean when you say the baiased killer mains on the forum are unreal
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Crouch after the unhook, traps won't go off. The only lack of skill is with survivors that ignore simple and smart counterplay.
Ps find a flashlight
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