The Amanda's Letter add-on for The Pig has been Kill Switched due to an issue with incorrect RBT count.
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[RANT] The game mechanics are rewarding face campers.
Hello everyone, I am new player and I am so thrilled to be here. A friend of gifted me DBD as a birth day present and I fell in love with this game, me being a hardcore moba player with over 10k hrs on dota and lol combined. I started maining survivor just because I love the chases with the killer, so much fun and I mean it! Enough with the small talk, since I started ranking up I noticed the so called "problem" this game has and of course I am referring to face camping "cheers sarcastically". Hear me out, I understand that so people think survivors got buffed and killers got nerfed and the only way to get a kill is to face camp, but its not just that you get a insane amount of BP as killer only for securing one or two kills per match, and to be honest I farm BP with killer when my premades are offline and I am not gonna bullshit people and say that I never face camped, I did and guess what it works and it secures kills and therefor BPs. Going back on the killers got nerfed and are bad statement that people tend to make on the forum I can assure you that its not true, all my killers are level 1 and I can still manage to get a team wipe vs the survivors and not by using the face camping tactic. So to put a end to my rant I got a suggestion, killers should receive a BP penalty if a survivor dies on the hook and the killer is in a 3 to 5 maybe 6 meters radius around the mentioned hook. I know there is the chance that another survivor can dash in for a quick save but the devs can find a work around that if they decide to do something like this, and again this is just a rant and I have no intention of going into arguments with killer mains. I wish you all the best of luck on your game and keep them generators poping survivor mains! Peace Out!
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Survivors got buffed? When? When they introduced the window blockers? When they removed 75% of all the pallets on the maps? When they added medium vaults and made all killer animations faster? When they made sabotaged hooks regenerate over time and made traps unsabotagable? When they added gen kick and regression mechanics? When they added EGC? When they blocked the second window in the shack and nerfed all loops on every map? When they nerfed BT, SC and DS (twice!)? Maybe it's when they nerfed keys and the hatch then? Just when did this "survivors buffed" thing happen in DbD history exactly?
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there are mechanics that discourage it, however the fundamental rules of the game does reward it IF your teammates aren't efficient on gens.
Also 1 kill = lost match for the killer MMR wise so.... ehh.
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BHVR tried to do something to punish facecamping and survivors wound up abusing it so they removed it. You're new here so you probably don't know that facecamping gets talked about here extremely frequently.
Just slam gens when someone is being facecamped.
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Others have also suggested some sort of blood point penalty tied to W/E mechanic or play style. Killers won't care they'll still face camp and they're already get a smaller BP gain overall since they're not doing much.
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Killers do get a bp decrease if camping a hook. 1, because bp is rewarded more per hook and 2, because chasing and hitting a survivor gives more bp.
Now being new, to dbd and the forums, any new killer against new survivors is going to 4k. Survivor just don't know what to do. The exact opposite is going to happen between more experienced players.
If you believe standing in front of the 1st survivor you down grants you a 4k each match, then I encourage you to continue doing the strat and to play killer a bit more.
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If a killer wants a kill they should be able to have it if they want regardless of any feelings the victim has.
If survivor's feed into that playstyle and not adapt then they should be punished.
There are perks, items, and addons that are there and meant to be used to combat the killer.
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You don't need to face camp to win as killer. In fact you don't need to win every game, because it just a game.
Face Camping happens for a few reasons.
- The killer is either not good or feels unsure. They camp because they don't want the hassle of chasing round the map to find somebody else, and survivors are predictable and always go for the save, especially with a face camper.
- The killer thinks it is fun.
- The killer is toxic.
I have only been playing for a month, both survivor and killer. I don't face camp, in fact I find it a lot better to cover the gens, find survivors and just go from there. If they save then it gives me more hooks and if I lose then I try harder next time.
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I guess you've never played as a soloQ survivor, right?
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Sluzzy is that you?
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Hmmm
I think I'll just post to say WELCOME to DBD :)
lol. You will be experiencing this frustration for the entirety of your stay here. God Bless.
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Survivors should get a stacking bp bonus for every few seconds a killer is in a 16 or so radius of their hook.
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I have, yeah.
I still win 75% of my games.
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And I'm the president of the United States, nice to meet you. You have any evidence of your claims?
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Yeah, let me grab it.
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Thats some 2016 boomer mentality, thats like saying they stole my 7 blink nurse.
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Here:
This is from my NOED experiment where I played extremely selfishly but wasn't running a meta build. Only Solo Q and only 24 games.
My build was Small Game, Inner Strength, Counterforce and Borrowed Time. In Row 5 I got Hatch.
The checkmarks are when I escaped. X's are when I died.
15/24 = ~63% Escape Rate with a non-meta build on a painfully bad Survivor player.
But these are just my stats from a limited sample size. You asked, and this is all I've got tbh.
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I hate to be the one to tell you OP, but if you want a decent chance at playing the game against face campers you will need to buy Laurie Strode and unlock Decisive Strike. Buy it when it is up in the Shrine.
OR hope someone has Borrowed Time. Against some killers (Bubba) and perks (Max StBFL stacks) no one is going to be able to pull you off hook… not with at least trading their own skin.
This game isn’t reasonable when it comes to that tactic because developers have accepted it as a “strat”.
Good luck out there!
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So you made an excel table and expect me to believe the data is correct? Well, let me make a table showing I've won 2958 games out of 3000 as the Pig, proving you how strong she is.
That's not to mention 24 games are nothing for statistics. You need at least a few hundred.
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What is wrong with you
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When I play survivor, I've gotten tunneled and facecamped to death as the 1st survivor hooked before. I didn't like it, but it's part of the game IMO.
The rest of the survivors should just do generators to make the killer pay for that wasted camp. Killer usually loses those games, UNLESS survivors play into the camp, and 1 by 1 go try to be a hero and just bring free kills to the killer.
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Facecamp/Tunnel one dude to death
What are good survivors going to do when they see this happening? Gens
But then you have noed :^)
Takes 0 skill to do this and I'm seeing a lot of killers do it because it's the easiest and most rewarding way to play. Don't have to care about gens, just camp and tunnel one dude right away then get rewarded by NOED. Yes, NOED isn't a 'reward' but it allows you to play in such a manner that it basically is
The "just do bones" argument would hold ground if the killer is playing 'normally' but killers with noed don't play normally
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One day I have faith you'll engage literally anyone with some integrity of your own. Sad to see today is not that day.
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Well, I haven't stopped recording data.
Also, you seem to be contradicting yourself. Excel tables mean nothing, but you need at least a few hundred games for them to mean something. Which is it? Something or nothing.
Additionally, you asked for me to provide proof. I can't record all of these games. Nor can I record several hundred games and nobody would watch it either.
I've seen you offer up zero proof of your own to support your beliefs, so perhaps it's time to pay up, so to speak.
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Lol, Nice burden of proof forehead.
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When Leatherface gets almost max BP for camping while everyone else gets less than 10k, yes the game is killer sided and rewards camping.
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Leatherface was built to camp. He's the best at it imo. Doesn't mean every killer should camp but when against a Leatherface would probably be best to expect camping along with Insidious.
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I can’t imagine how Bubba’s can get nearly max bloodpoints for camping.
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Ever since MMr started, I felt a LOT of people doing this tactic along with tunneling.
But I think because I barely escaped after MMR started, I'm in a mix of elo hell low MMR and newbie players which will Camp you even if they're not being genrushed.
And the fact that it's either a coin toss for me : coordinated solo team, people saving without BT or people scared to come to the hook then I guess the recipe for disaster is done.
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Ooooo he's trying
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If the survivors are new or if they are stupid the Bubba can chain hook trades pretty easy.... but it really requires the survivors to be really, really new or really desperate to have something to be mad about.
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Unless you're going against Leatherface, it is completely up to the survivors if the killer gets a kill from a face camp. The game will never give the killer the grab if y'all play it right, and the killer will be forced to commit to a hit because he thinks he's gonna get a grab, then once the guy gets unhooked the remaining healthy guy takes a body block and hits for the others, and then everyone runs out the gates. "But I don't have DS or BT." Get them.
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Killers aren't complaining that weak/new survivors are hard to kill. 4k is easy when survivors don't do anything that killers actually mention. Good survivors know they have control of the match, it's why they can confidently taunt and run killers all game.
Killers are gonna continue to camp because it's time effective against good loopers and unproductive teams. If a survivors shows they can make a single health state last long enough to hinder gen pressure, it's actually more efficient to negate as many hook states as possible.
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There is no contradiction. Unproven excel tables are not evidence, and even if they were - 24 is not enough to make any kind of conclusion. Two completely different points here.
Proof of what do you need? Proof that soloQ is full of suffering?
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Proof that Solo Q is underpowered. Unfun? Absolutely. Underpowered? Prove it.
Apologies, I'll make sure to make my sample size 500 games and record them all, then watch as you say "Lmao, I'm not watching that."
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Screenshots are not that hard to make.
Also, are you really trying to say that soloQ is on the same power level as SWF?
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They also aren't hard to fake. Your point?
No, where did I say that? I was trying to say that my Solo Q games aren't really all that bad. Sometimes, you get ######### teammates, other times you ARE the ######### teammate.
it just be that way
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When you face camp the first and last out of the game, rofl. Not that I would know...
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I highly suggest running Bubba with Corrupt, Deadlock, Ruin and noed
Just facecamp and if the survivors do anything other than gens its pretty much a free 4k.
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