Nah. There's an easy way and idk why so many people haven't seen it yet. Bring Solo to SWF level. Then buff the killers to combat Solo and SWF. Problem solved.

@DarkGGhost said:

@Poweas said:
Nah. There's an easy way and idk why so many people haven't seen it yet. Bring Solo to SWF level. Then buff the killers to combat Solo and SWF. Problem solved.

ok, tell me how you will do it?

Built in kindred. And a built in bond of 20m. The current bond gets a buff to make it 50m for u to see ur teammates. Killers are then buffed. If they still cry then revert the pallet vacuum nerf (kidding don't revert that it was cancer and broken)

Poweas said:

Nah. There's an easy way and idk why so many people haven't seen it yet. Bring Solo to SWF level. Then buff the killers to combat Solo and SWF. Problem solved.

DarkGGhost said:

@Luc_ius said:

@DarkGGhost said:

@Luc_ius said:
Why people dislike swf so much ? Sometimes I played solo survivor and I met such a good group it seemed like we are playing together.

The problem is not to play with them but against them

I wrote it wrong. That's what I meant to ask, what is the problem with playing against swf ?
I probably never met a good swf group as a killer.

Think it like this nurse is OP when you play against her you feel like you can't do anything (same times) but a week one she very fun and you may build her. Now take this and put them on SWF it's the same

Unnamed_Freak said:

@rafajsp said:
More reward for killer would fix it.
I do love to face SWF as it makes me a better killer. Decisions/strategy/planning.
Brief:

• Gen rush ? Slug slows it down.
• Too autruistic ? Then camp/patrol more or learn to play with MYC/Devour.
• Good loopers/ Flashlight clickers with DS ? They do nothing ! Go chase the real threats that are kissing the generators.
• Toxic SWF with 6 second swap ? Bring your Mori and toxic perks next time.

Don't get me wrong, im just trying to help from Killer main to Killer main.
This is the best patch/moment to play as a Killer since this game release.
I do play survivor as well and it IS more dificult right now. Specially when there is a baby survivor with DS in your team who drop the pallet in the moment they see the killer.

Wait, patch 2.4.0 is the best patch to play as killer?

Do you know that they screwed killers in this patch with the audio and scratchmarks glitches? Principally Spirit?

XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

@Vietfox said:
DarkGGhost said:

@Luc_ius said:

Why people dislike swf so much ? Sometimes I played solo survivor and I met such a good group it seemed like we are playing together.

The problem is not to play with them but against them

Most swf i gotta face are not even difficult to deal with...

same but there are some i just cant deal with.

@DarkGGhost said:

@Poweas said:

@DarkGGhost said:

@Poweas said:
Nah. There's an easy way and idk why so many people haven't seen it yet. Bring Solo to SWF level. Then buff the killers to combat Solo and SWF. Problem solved.

ok, tell me how you will do it?

Built in kindred. And a built in bond of 20m. The current bond gets a buff to make it 50m for u to see ur teammates. Killers are then buffed. If they still cry then revert the pallet vacuum nerf (kidding don't revert that it was cancer and broken)

for all the survivors or only for solo and what buff you will give to the killers ?

I have no clue. There's a lot. Hag could use a 60m base teleporting distance and her range addons are reworked to give her a compeltely different advantage i.e her traps give a bigger camera flick. Spirit could use a 12 second base cooldown rather then 16 seconds and then Hag and Spirit are sorted.

Myers could use no cap on his stalk, remove his 40m stalking range and make it mapwide so if he sees you, he can stalk u no matter how far u are and gain EW 20% faster. That pretty much makes Myers as good as Billy. If not then even better.

Huntress could use 1 more base hatchet, quicker hatchet load time and quicker cooldown.

And the last one I'll suggest is Wraith could use a 1.5 second speed burst after uncloaking, he could be as fast as the green windstorm addon when he's cloaked and windstorm is given a whole new rework, 10% faster movespeed when uncloaking (it's too slow right now) and he could use 20% faster vaulting/pallet breaking/ every other action when cloaked. But his addons that make that faster are nerfed so they won't give more faster vaulting/pallet breaking/every other action when cloaked then they do right now. He could also use a built in bloodhound.

There's a lot of buffs you could give killers to combat SWF it's hard to think of .

@RuneStarr said:

@Poweas said:
Nah. There's an easy way and idk why so many people haven't seen it yet. Bring Solo to SWF level. Then buff the killers to combat Solo and SWF. Problem solved.

The problem with that is when it's time for killers to be buffed accordingly there will be community outrage (see anytime something even small gets buffed for killers or nerfed for survivors) and we then get to play the game of "are these buffs sticking, or will people start review bombing again because Killers OP plz nerf".

Imo they just need a casual mode where SWF runs free and ranks aren't a thing (before people say killers just wouldn't play it, how many times have people asked for this so they could not be stuck playing only nurse/billy because they're stuck at high rank. It'd be more of a fun based game where you don't have to worry about rank and can play killers you're not familiar with instead of everyone going for that pip), BP is still earned in casual mode obvi otherwise it might as well just be KYF.

Then have a ranked mode which is solo only. So many people say rank means nothing now, which is pretty true since anyone can make rank 1 (even if they're not great) by being carried or just putting enough time in (pipping is honestly too easy, so if this is ever split this should be toughened up a bit). It will make rank actually mean something and maybe since there will be less chilling at rank 1 they can implement a rank reward system without worrying about the 'bloodpoint economy'.

Then again I'm not a game designer so my idea is likely just as bad as any others

Your idea is good but honestly, if people complain about killers getting buffed to Solo/SWF level (assuming they take my idea) then they're just being idiots. I don't think any reasonable player would complain. There'll be Ochido fangirls but forget them.

XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

@Vietfox said:
XxAtomicAlfiexX said:

@Vietfox said:

DarkGGhost said:

@Luc_ius said:

Why people dislike swf so much ? Sometimes I played solo survivor and I met such a good group it seemed like we are playing together.



The problem is not to play with them but against them

Most swf i gotta face are not even difficult to deal with...

same but there are some i just cant deal with.

@XxAtomicAlfiexX
If they are better than me i dont mind losing, either if i'm playing as a survivor or as a killer. I enjoy facing good players.

same. sometimes they're really annoying but other times they deserve the win. a full team of gen rushing survs all with BT on rotten fields playing a bit toxicly with a rank 2 isnt fun considering it was a rank 12 game but im not saying every game with swf is like that and i have had some good ones in the past.

And how about making killer lose 1 perk for each solo player?
i think it would be fair , right? xD
That's why kids shouldn't be allowed on the internet , they talk so much stupid crap.

@TheBean said:

@Poweas said:
Nah. There's an easy way and idk why so many people haven't seen it yet. Bring Solo to SWF level. Then buff the killers to combat Solo and SWF. Problem solved.

The Devs mentioned this was their plan over a year ago. That is why there has been so many buffs to solo survivors and buffs to killers. Solo players are sort of being left behind, but that is just the nature of the beast of VOIP.

Yes... But Solo has also got a ton of nerfs. The exhaustion change, The cancer change window change, the pallet vacuum is the only one I think was needed. Exhaustion change did nothing to help killers, SB is still cancer and the cancer change window change was nothing short of unnecessary.

I miss the old vaulting, I wish they made it so that Lithe would make it revert if you run it, that would make Lithe better to use and it would make Lithe work a little like balanced landing which is the best exhaustion perk as of right now lol.

I hope they fix solo right now since it's in a bad spot.

Nurse>>>>>>>SWF>>>>>>>>>>>Killers in general>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Solo.

@DarkGGhost said:

@Poweas said:

@TheBean said:

@Poweas said:
Nah. There's an easy way and idk why so many people haven't seen it yet. Bring Solo to SWF level. Then buff the killers to combat Solo and SWF. Problem solved.

The Devs mentioned this was their plan over a year ago. That is why there has been so many buffs to solo survivors and buffs to killers. Solo players are sort of being left behind, but that is just the nature of the beast of VOIP.

Yes... But Solo has also got a ton of nerfs. The exhaustion change, The cancer change window change, the pallet vacuum is the only one I think was needed. Exhaustion change did nothing to help killers, SB is still cancer and the cancer change window change was nothing short of unnecessary.

I miss the old vaulting, I wish they made it so that Lithe would make it revert if you run it, that would make Lithe better to use and it would make Lithe work a little like balanced landing which is the best exhaustion perk as of right now lol.

I hope they fix solo right now since it's in a bad spot.

Nurse>>>>>>>SWF>>>>>>>>>>>Killers in general>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Solo.

So you want back the vacuum window? The exhaustion perks is only nerfed to all other except SB ( you can now time ) and solo is only bad because they don't know how to organize safe with others.

What vacuum window? I'm talking about when they made it so that you now have to have 2.5m of clear distance to make a fast vault not the old 1m of clear distance. Do you main killer? If you haven't noticed that then u must not play much survivor since it cucks everyone with how inconsistent it now is.

If you think solo is bad because they don't know how to organise safe, then you are sorely mistaken. Solo is weak because they have no advantage over most killers and with all these buffs coming to killers, but nothing to solo to help them, killers are getting far more power over solo then they should and pretty much no more power over SWF. It's hard to have a chance sometimes when you're not in a SWF.

@DarkGGhost said:

@Poweas said:

@DarkGGhost said:

@Poweas said:

@TheBean said:

@Poweas said:
Nah. There's an easy way and idk why so many people haven't seen it yet. Bring Solo to SWF level. Then buff the killers to combat Solo and SWF. Problem solved.

The Devs mentioned this was their plan over a year ago. That is why there has been so many buffs to solo survivors and buffs to killers. Solo players are sort of being left behind, but that is just the nature of the beast of VOIP.

Yes... But Solo has also got a ton of nerfs. The exhaustion change, The cancer change window change, the pallet vacuum is the only one I think was needed. Exhaustion change did nothing to help killers, SB is still cancer and the cancer change window change was nothing short of unnecessary.

I miss the old vaulting, I wish they made it so that Lithe would make it revert if you run it, that would make Lithe better to use and it would make Lithe work a little like balanced landing which is the best exhaustion perk as of right now lol.

I hope they fix solo right now since it's in a bad spot.

Nurse>>>>>>>SWF>>>>>>>>>>>Killers in general>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Solo.

So you want back the vacuum window? The exhaustion perks is only nerfed to all other except SB ( you can now time ) and solo is only bad because they don't know how to organize safe with others.

What vacuum window? I'm talking about when they made it so that you now have to have 2.5m of clear distance to make a fast vault not the old 1m of clear distance. Do you main killer? If you haven't noticed that then u must not play much survivor since it cucks everyone with how inconsistent it now is.

If you think solo is bad because they don't know how to organise safe, then you are sorely mistaken. Solo is weak because they have no advantage over most killers and with all these buffs coming to killers, but nothing to solo to help them, killers are getting far more power over solo then they should and pretty much no more power over SWF. It's hard to have a chance sometimes when you're not in a SWF.

1) i was thinking about the old windows
2) What the wrong with survivors don't have advantage over most killers. We try to make the same with SWF

I said some killers are getting TOO powerful over solo. There's nothing wrong with them being stronger but theres a limit to how strong they need to be above a team of solo.

@powerbats said:

@Master said:

@Poweas said:
Nah. There's an easy way and idk why so many people haven't seen it yet. Bring Solo to SWF level. Then buff the killers to combat Solo and SWF. Problem solved.

The devs dont want to introduce ingame voice comms because it would be against the nature of the game (the irony though)

No they don't want to have to make people listen to 12 year olds screaming at them non stop about why they didn't rescue them from the camping Bubba.

Some genius invented the mute functionally to prevent situations like this