Boons can be nerfed when NOED is nerfed
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Unless you’re a new player, when you complain about NOED you’re merely exclaiming that you choose not to counter it, and want the devs to compensate for that choice.
It doesn’t take a genius to figure that if each survivor does just one totem as they move between gens, NOED is essentially a wasted perk slot.
You even have perks specifically designed to help you do totems. You just click on the totem and wait a few seconds and it’s gone for good.
Survivor entitlement when it comes to NOED is comical.
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DS punishes you to keep it activated. Dead hard is usually baited so its a dead perk most of the time. These perks never win games like NOED.
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As a solo q stuck on low mmr hell, I feel like they'll be nerfing boons Just because killers are complaining Nonstop.
And I bet it'll be something like : " each time you bless a totem you gain 2/3/4 stacks.of heal for you and your teammates", after that you need to bless it again.
I'm already preparing for the worst case scenario lol.
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NOED is going nowhere, but don’t be surprised if you see boons get nerfed in the PTB…
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You seem to have missed the point where you are wasting time when doing it. And 1000 points for a dull totem ain't all that much.
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Repairing a gen to 100% by yourself is 1250 pts... yeah, your time is not wasted
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🤦🏼🤦🏼
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DS and DH can win you matches. They definitely come up clutch at endgame.
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If survivors can make it to endgame. What if the killer slugs at endgame? The perk still doesn't do any good.
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Killers can't get rid of totems
Boons and old killer totems are not a fair exchange
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It is when a killer face camps 1 survivor and the other 3 have to rush gens and ignore literally everything else.
NOED + Face camp needs to be nerfed somehow. Personally I want the camping to be knocked somehow as I think NOED is fine in a standard match.
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I agree. Camping should have never been acceptable in this game. I'm dumbfounded by who ever made that decision... all around it's terrible, spreads negativity and only benefits one player. Who really thought it was a good idea to say that's ok? Really? 🤔
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Would survivors find NOED balanced if the killer could just place the NOED totem over and over again by taking the time to hex it, and it worked at any point of the game, not just with the gens done? Let's even add the idea the survivor could just snuff it in a second rather then cleanse it. People would still cry bloody murder if NOED was a perk the killer could repeatedly place over and over again the entire match, regardless of how fast it was to cleanse, as the survivors would basically be stuck in a "trying to get back on their feet" phase. But killers are supposed to be okay with super-heals that they can't ever remove short of tunneling out every Mikaela they see, and being stuck in a permanent "Cannot spread any pressure" phase.
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The game would be pretty unplayable if camping were not okay, the level of aura reading they would need to add to base kit to justify that wouldn't even be worth the change, survivor's would hate the game without camping a lot more than the game with camping, imo.
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Most killers SUCK at face camping. Mr.Chainsaw is the only one i can think of right now that can "counter" it. Ok, maybe Plague with power but... unlikely
As you can take a hit (with dead hard even two) and if you have Borrowed time, you can get two people away. Boon totem-> easy fast heal, take a medkit on top and you are unstoppable.
If you encounter SO many face camps yourself, or maybe with others (don't have to be SWF), try to build your kit around it. it won't work every time, the same NOED won't work every time.
Noone needs to ignore everything, it's just sometimes the better choice, if you can get 3 gens for one survivor, that's already a good number, if you don't 3-gen yourself you are even better, and if you can be a little toxic with tea-bags and still loop him, god-like, you deserve it even more.
I play an equal amount of survivor and killer, and Boon totems are busted. Ruin is counterable by either just sticking to the gen or finding the totem, which can be a fun game if every single survivor tries to find it... for some odd reason.
As killer it isn't always an option to snuff totems, it literally happens that you spawn next to gen as a survivor and gen get it to 50%, if you are lucky someone takes aggro and you basically already have in the first 80-second one gen, without any perks or anything. Most killers are so immobile, they take that much time to walk between two gens (ofc. exaggerated).
Boons just force the killer to tunnel one down, if not they just heal up, if they are SWF even worse, then they get healed.
This ongoing debate just shows me that most people that complain don't even want to try to see how broken it is. If you are as bad with looping as I am, I'm more the splinter cell guy, you know that killer can be op.
i could try to get better perks that help me, or don't be so brainless and don't mind game, or even worse as soon as I lose the killer think I am safe.
If you are just DECENT you can get 3 people out. Not speaking of randos that do the weirdest #########, we all have them, then killer IS op, no question, but 85% of games you can get looped for minutes while you need essential perks with most killers to just keep somewhat of a control, and one mistake can lead to a total defeat, while survivor go to their safe-space and reset, yes they loose time, but even if you get hooks, it doesn't matter if they get all your perks down or they counter everything a killer can do.
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That's just a lie. Dead Hard when used properly can't be baited and is uncounterable
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I didn't camp and I didn't have issues. I've also seen tons of killers that don't camp and don't have issues. Camping really isn't as necessary as you seem to think it is.
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unbreajable, no mither
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I don't mind NOED but the movement speed increase is not nessesary.
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remove both please
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Sure, no one uses this perk anyway, other than new players that have no perks to use.
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Clearly Pig
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You can literally counter NOED before it even activates. Run Inner Healing or Small Game
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Bruh you are literally progressing the game when doing gens of course your time is not wasted doing the only objective. Looking and doing totems when the killer doesn't even have NOED is just a waste of time. Your only compensation is some bloodpoints.
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its sad how we are to give up our perks to counter one that may not even be carried, I much rather keeping my flash bang and iron will/bite bullet or other perks that more handy.
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if NOED turned a 1k into a 3/4k, then you, as the Survivor, have been doing something terribly wrong to allow such a thing to happen.
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NOED isn't a good perk my guy, so yes.
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Oh he uses that qoute as a joke way XD dont take it serious :P
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The only way that can be changed is if killers are given any other reason to not facecamp at the end of the game once gates are open since they've not really got anything else to do, they could wander away and look for other survivors but they're likely just going to end up going from one sacrafice to not getting anything.
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To stop camping they need to give the killer a good reason for doing so and once gates are open there's not really any good reason to not facecamp.
During the game there's gens and BBQ is a great example of a perk that encourages players to not camp since it shows the location of players.
Maybe there could be another hex perk (That spawns like NOED during the end game collapse) where once gates are open and a survivor is hooked it shows the location of the other survivors.
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It's probably just me but I don't see how camping equates to the same thing as needing aura reading capabilities. They're just not the same and don't serve the same purpose.
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Im new to this "boon" stuff. other than I know that from my playing experience against survivors with it. I am rather annoyed by it. I've played about 3 or 4 games against the new mechanics.
My thoughts:
NOED is there if survivors chose to not do bones. Which means if they remove each totem from the playing field. NOED is not going to be there.
Boons: I assume with boons mechanics. That players can re-light a totem once it has been snuffed by the killer. I have also noticed that when players ignite these totems on the map. That the totem creates a noise but not reveal the location of a lit totem for the killer.
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As I play against this type of new mechanic. I am going to assume I need to use perks that punish players for leaving totems on the playing field or by making moves which force players to eliminate totems regardless.
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Sorry I should have said more... because you said dull totems only give 1k points, I meant that repairing a gen is only 1200 pts by itself. And you can finish cleansing a totem faster than you can repair a gen by yourself. So those 1k points are worth it.
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Just break totems if you are scared of NOED. The perk is very easy to counter. You can also just rush those gens and not care about them, but that is your own fault. Killers can not destroy a totem that has a BOON on it. Survivors can just chance the totem again and again. Did you also notice the healing speed, it is pretty insane. Killers on high MMR are having a hard time already at the moment. Now they also have to look out for BOON totems.
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When will yall stop saying its the fault of the player its totally so bias and unfair asf you cant TELL RANDOMS TO DO TOTEMS why are you killers so ignorant on that part all the freaking time. You can be doing the totems but cannot you control 3 other randoms actions with a game that do not have built in voice chat like other games do? Then people complain how unfair SWF is my god. People is not complaining about NOED in swf because if they do then that is really stupid and should have common sense to communicate with SWF to do it. Random is a problem and has as excuse why it will be whined about.
I had a round where today all this Dwight did was gens gens gens and nothing but gens, while I cleanse a few totems but tried to save mika or claudio who get chased and down and ofc then I get chase down eventually those 2 did their fair share of unhook on heals. All dwight was possessed with was gen till I purposely decide he needs to die since that all he care about. when he got first hooked I even kinda thought both him and the killer was on teams cause he literally pops 4 gens and that kilelr didnt went for him till he try the 5th. There other things that can stop just doing totems one person can be hook, the other can be a scared rat hiding all round and the other is injured and dont wanna risk trying for save(which is idk why the scared injured onedont bring self care then screw COL) Find it even funnier when a bubba/myers has noed and am like what?
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But is the time you are using up worth it? Like I said in solo it is better to slam on gens because you have to assume everyone else is probably doing bones or something else that is not gens.
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I don't think most people are doing bones though. Or we wouldn't be having this conversation lol
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