Unless you’re a new player, when you complain about NOED you’re merely exclaiming that you choose not to counter it, and want the devs to compensate for that choice.

It doesn’t take a genius to figure that if each survivor does just one totem as they move between gens, NOED is essentially a wasted perk slot.

You even have perks specifically designed to help you do totems. You just click on the totem and wait a few seconds and it’s gone for good.

Survivor entitlement when it comes to NOED is comical.

As a solo q stuck on low mmr hell, I feel like they'll be nerfing boons Just because killers are complaining Nonstop.

And I bet it'll be something like : " each time you bless a totem you gain 2/3/4 stacks.of heal for you and your teammates", after that you need to bless it again.

I'm already preparing for the worst case scenario lol.

You seem to have missed the point where you are wasting time when doing it. And 1000 points for a dull totem ain't all that much.

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It is when a killer face camps 1 survivor and the other 3 have to rush gens and ignore literally everything else.

NOED + Face camp needs to be nerfed somehow. Personally I want the camping to be knocked somehow as I think NOED is fine in a standard match.

Would survivors find NOED balanced if the killer could just place the NOED totem over and over again by taking the time to hex it, and it worked at any point of the game, not just with the gens done? Let's even add the idea the survivor could just snuff it in a second rather then cleanse it. People would still cry bloody murder if NOED was a perk the killer could repeatedly place over and over again the entire match, regardless of how fast it was to cleanse, as the survivors would basically be stuck in a "trying to get back on their feet" phase. But killers are supposed to be okay with super-heals that they can't ever remove short of tunneling out every Mikaela they see, and being stuck in a permanent "Cannot spread any pressure" phase.

Most killers SUCK at face camping. Mr.Chainsaw is the only one i can think of right now that can "counter" it. Ok, maybe Plague with power but... unlikely

As you can take a hit (with dead hard even two) and if you have Borrowed time, you can get two people away. Boon totem-> easy fast heal, take a medkit on top and you are unstoppable.

If you encounter SO many face camps yourself, or maybe with others (don't have to be SWF), try to build your kit around it. it won't work every time, the same NOED won't work every time.

Noone needs to ignore everything, it's just sometimes the better choice, if you can get 3 gens for one survivor, that's already a good number, if you don't 3-gen yourself you are even better, and if you can be a little toxic with tea-bags and still loop him, god-like, you deserve it even more.

I play an equal amount of survivor and killer, and Boon totems are busted. Ruin is counterable by either just sticking to the gen or finding the totem, which can be a fun game if every single survivor tries to find it... for some odd reason.

As killer it isn't always an option to snuff totems, it literally happens that you spawn next to gen as a survivor and gen get it to 50%, if you are lucky someone takes aggro and you basically already have in the first 80-second one gen, without any perks or anything. Most killers are so immobile, they take that much time to walk between two gens (ofc. exaggerated).

Boons just force the killer to tunnel one down, if not they just heal up, if they are SWF even worse, then they get healed.

This ongoing debate just shows me that most people that complain don't even want to try to see how broken it is. If you are as bad with looping as I am, I'm more the splinter cell guy, you know that killer can be op.

i could try to get better perks that help me, or don't be so brainless and don't mind game, or even worse as soon as I lose the killer think I am safe.

If you are just DECENT you can get 3 people out. Not speaking of randos that do the weirdest #########, we all have them, then killer IS op, no question, but 85% of games you can get looped for minutes while you need essential perks with most killers to just keep somewhat of a control, and one mistake can lead to a total defeat, while survivor go to their safe-space and reset, yes they loose time, but even if you get hooks, it doesn't matter if they get all your perks down or they counter everything a killer can do.

I didn't camp and I didn't have issues. I've also seen tons of killers that don't camp and don't have issues. Camping really isn't as necessary as you seem to think it is.

I don't mind NOED but the movement speed increase is not nessesary.

remove both please

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Bruh you are literally progressing the game when doing gens of course your time is not wasted doing the only objective. Looking and doing totems when the killer doesn't even have NOED is just a waste of time. Your only compensation is some bloodpoints.

if NOED turned a 1k into a 3/4k, then you, as the Survivor, have been doing something terribly wrong to allow such a thing to happen.

To stop camping they need to give the killer a good reason for doing so and once gates are open there's not really any good reason to not facecamp.

During the game there's gens and BBQ is a great example of a perk that encourages players to not camp since it shows the location of players.

Maybe there could be another hex perk (That spawns like NOED during the end game collapse) where once gates are open and a survivor is hooked it shows the location of the other survivors.

Im new to this "boon" stuff. other than I know that from my playing experience against survivors with it. I am rather annoyed by it. I've played about 3 or 4 games against the new mechanics.

My thoughts:

NOED is there if survivors chose to not do bones. Which means if they remove each totem from the playing field. NOED is not going to be there.

Boons: I assume with boons mechanics. That players can re-light a totem once it has been snuffed by the killer. I have also noticed that when players ignite these totems on the map. That the totem creates a noise but not reveal the location of a lit totem for the killer.

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As I play against this type of new mechanic. I am going to assume I need to use perks that punish players for leaving totems on the playing field or by making moves which force players to eliminate totems regardless.

Just break totems if you are scared of NOED. The perk is very easy to counter. You can also just rush those gens and not care about them, but that is your own fault. Killers can not destroy a totem that has a BOON on it. Survivors can just chance the totem again and again. Did you also notice the healing speed, it is pretty insane. Killers on high MMR are having a hard time already at the moment. Now they also have to look out for BOON totems.

But is the time you are using up worth it? Like I said in solo it is better to slam on gens because you have to assume everyone else is probably doing bones or something else that is not gens.