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'Earner' Killers: Some Observation On The BP Discrepancy Between Different Killers.

StarLost
StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

So, this has been annoying me for a bit now.

Some killers just...struggle to earn as much BP as other killers. It has mostly to do with the values assigned to 'power' events - for instance a Wraith getting a hit out of cloak, or Pinhead hitting a chained survivor.

I decided to test it a bit, on Plague (which a lot of people say is a weak 'earner') and the Cenobite, who I've always considered a very strong earner.

Obviously, the games are not perfectly analogous - but I tried to make them close.

Hard fought 4-out:

Pinhead - 27kish BP

Plague - 18kish BP

2-out

Pinhead - 31kish BP

Plague - 26kish BP

4k

Pinhead - 35kish BP

Plague - 31kish BP

It's definitely the powers.

Have you noticed anything similar? I'd love to hear what your 'earners' are, and which killers you struggle to earn on.

Comments

  • botrax
    botrax Member Posts: 633

    Power play a massive role in BP gain that why some of the best farmer are doctor and legion.

    Before we had BP event and during those period survivor could face only doctor during those week end and this was old doctor so he was a nightmare to play not because he was bad but because he had 2 stance he was really a hard killer to use.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    Doctor!

    Damn, I'd forgotten him. Yeah, always rolling in the...blood (??) with him.

    Really need to dust him off. Haven't played him for weeks.

  • RagingCalm
    RagingCalm Member Posts: 408

    Man I notice this too. The only Killer I realize that I always max out deviousness bp on is Wraith. Obviously there are other Killers that earn lots of deviousness, but I don't pay much attention. I'm gonna start paying more attention now. But for what it's worth, the genuined trend is that newer killers usually suck for bp. With Pinhead being an exception, of course.

    It may even be a bit more nuanced than that even. Maybe the "middle" Killers earn the least amount? It would make sense as a trend to me - when the game came out, the devs were very generous with Deviousness bp. Then as it went on, they started giving out less for Killers. Then eventually they gave in and let the newer Killers (maybe in the past year or so) start earning a healthy amount of Deviousness again.

  • ReikoMori
    ReikoMori Member Posts: 3,333

    In terms of pure point gain, Legion is probably the best due to them being fairly mobile and their power lacking lethality. Getting frenzied stabs on survivors will never make them drop so it is quite easy to farm up devious and malicious scoring events.

  • bjorksnas
    bjorksnas Member Posts: 5,616

    It all depends on the killer and the power

    chainsaw killers usually get less brutality bp when they get 8k devious

    Nurse and plauge are pretty much get bread crumbs for deviousness points, with nurse getting 250 on a successful hit or 150 when you start a chase with a blink, while plague gets 200 for m1ing a fully infected survivor or 300 for hitting a survivor with corrupt purge, the only way to really reach 8k with them is to get 5.5k and have a 4k

    Oni takes a while to max out deviousness but a few power hits and he is already maxed out on brutality

    And then other killers like blight and demo are just thrown handful after handful of bp, demo gets 800 bp per shred and blight gets 300 bp per hit, 500bp on a down, 50 bp on every rush, 25 bp per second spent rushing (you get the idea)

  • Adjatha
    Adjatha Member Posts: 1,814

    Doctor's pretty good for BP. His power gets you big Deviousness points (which a ton of killers struggle to earn) and easily locates the survivors so you can get into chases faster (and keep them going) without a ton of downtime checking for sneaks. It's still up to you (and mmr) to get the hits and sacrifices, but at least you're getting half your max points pretty much every game, no matter how poorly you do.

  • Brokenbones
    Brokenbones Member Posts: 5,169

    From my POV the killers who get the least amount of points overall are typically ones that suffer in the deviousness category, those would be:

    • Oni - blood orbs and dashing barely give you that much and using your power only gives you like 250. Hitting people WITH your power only gives you brutality points I'm pretty sure
    • Legion - Feral Frenzy's deviousness output is pathetic - you get a small amount for using frenzy and 250 for inflicting deep wound on someone. To put this into perspective: In order to get 8k deviousness with legion on just feral frenzy hits you would need to hit survivors THIRTY TWO TIMES. Obviously you get bonus in deviousness for other things like hatch closing and nobody escaping but yeah
    • Myers - You get points for stalking and tiering up. That's it. No points for downs using T3 or grabs in T1 or anything like that. Outdated as heck
    • Pig - Assuming you set all 4 traps, that's 2000 BP in deviousness now the rest relies on you either doing other things or landing a bunch of ambush hits which can be quite tricky
  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    Yeah, Pig has always been a killer I'm reluctant to play for this exact reason.

    I think that Bubba and co do quite well in Brut because people can't heal as much vs them. I have no idea why killers actually lose BP when survivors heal.

  • Brokenbones
    Brokenbones Member Posts: 5,169
    edited November 2021

    Actually killers don't lose BP when survivors heal, it's just one of their emblems loses some points

    You actually slowly gain deviousness BP from survivors who stay injured, that's why when they heal - you get a score event in the top right that says 'bleeding'

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 20,783

    Nemesis.

    He gets a ton of BP for tiering up, good points for killing Zombies, great points for landing Tentacle Strikes and good points for Infecting Survivors.