Solo Players - Do YOU struggle with NOED and view it as a problem?

No, but I run Detective's most my matches ^^ Hex perks are rarely an issue.

Yes, as a solo, not top tier survivor it is hard to deal with it. (Can't trust your teammates).

And is very bad feeling when you played well the whole game and then get hit by it unexpectedly.

And I commented a lot on it recently.

Some change is necessary.

Don't try to cleanse all totems. Cleanse the hard ones/ the ones near the exit gate and remember where the easy ones are.

Cleansing one totem and remembering 2 of the others already has a 50% chance of finding noed. Without any input from you team and a 14 second cleanse from you

Yeah, provided you don't get stuck in a chase.

NOED can be annoying sometimes, and I've died plenty of times to it (solo queue, baby), but it's quite manageable by taking note of where the totems are earlier in the trial and going back to cleanse them if NOED pops, and also by identifying in advance whether a killer is likely to have NOED. Do I already know all four of their perks or is there a blank spot, were they relatively weak, were they facecamping or 'afk', are they using the frosty eyes cosmetic... etc.

I have no issues with NOED in its current state.

Solos should be able to handle NOED just as well as SWF, but they don't. All they have to do is split up and look for it, instead of trying to save the person on hook while NOED is up and then complaining that the perk is what got the killer 2 extra kills.

I don't mind noed. Most of the time you can already tell a killer has noed. And most totems spawn in general locations, so it's easy to check.

And I do bones anyway for the easy 1k points.

But I can understand the feeling some people have when they get hit with noed though. Sometimes it DOES feel undeserved, but in my experience most of the time gens got slammed and we got what we deserved. And tbh, how many downs does a killer really get with noed? As soon as the notification pops up, the noed is gone in like 30 seconds.

As a solo survivor, I don't struggle with NOED, but I simply don't think the perk is healthy for the game. You could also argue that it could be messing with the kill rates, which could cause BHVR to refuse to buff certain killers that rely on NOED. The perk is reasonably annoying for other solo players, though.

Soooo, here's my idea for a NOED rework (I'll just copy and paste it from another thread I posted it in):

If I had to change it, I'd probably make it so that the survivors are cursed by NOED at the start of the trial, and in order to deactivate it they must destroy every single dull totem on the map. After the 5th gen gets done, each time the killer downs a survivor destroys a dull totem. If at least one dull totem stays on the map, the killer has the opportunity to kill the survivor (which takes time to do). If the killer downs a survivor with only one dull totem on the map the killer no longer gains the ability to kill the survivors because NOED gets deactivated. Survivors have the ability to destroy the NOED totems to remove NOED after the 5th gen is done.

Oh yeah and the killer will have the ability to see how many totems are on the map at any time since it will have a token indicator.

This change would essentially turn the perk into a slowdown perk and a risk-reward (if they don't do bones and instead manage to escape) perk for the survivors. Now that they know that they should do the bones, it'd actually punish survivors for not doing all bones, and still help them if they cleanse a few. I'm not sure if this change would make NOED overpowered, but as a downside to it, the perk would be hindered by other hex perks since hex totems won't count as NOED tokens. Boon totems will also not count as NOED totems.

I like the concept of NOED, a perk to encourage survivors to cleanse dull totems, but the execution just ain't right.

I don't think Dead Hard is healthy for the game and here we are... It got buffed because the validation always is in the survivor their favor. If they change noed, they should change DH as well.

Oh no, I 100% agree. Dead Hard is just as annoying as NOED, in fact I'd argue it's more annoying than NOED. Both perks are second chance perks, so it's a fair trade.

Like I said, my issue comes more from how it feels than the strength. I'd prefer they being something that doesn't feel so... Cheap to deal with. It just doesn't feel good to face, and the fact that it is more effective vs solos than swf (just objectively it's better vs them due to being much more likely to activate) is the icing on top of the cake for my vehement dislike of the perk.

Probably not Tinkerer level of hatred but it's close. I really hate the perk because of how it feels but I completely accept that it does have counters (even if they're much more effective in a swf) and it isn't a good perk.

I don't blame the killer, I blame the perk for being outdated. And I blame myself for being so annoyed at the perk, too.

You said you saw where I was coming from initially so I hope that makes sense?

Edit: Oh also I hate DH so I never run it lmao ######### that perk

No and no. I don't even think it's impactful enough to warrant "doing bones". It takes a severe series of misplays on the part of the survivors to get snowballed by NOED.

If I get downed by NOED, it is what it is. That could happen at any point in the trial with any other instadown perk/mechanic.

If a teammate gets downed by NOED, I do a quick sweet of the totem spots in the area and play it safe. Don't greed the exit gates or play aggro. If I can't get the totem and save, I get a gate safely and leave. If the killer leaves the hook to pressure a gate, then I make a judgement call on saving.

There's zero reason to be bunched up out of position at endgame. If the killer has NOED, you'll get snowballed. If you're all injured, you'll get snowball. If they don't have NOED and you're healthy, they need two hits to down you anyway. In any case, THERE'S NO REASON TO BE OUT OF POSITION MILLING ABOUT NEAR THE GATE.

Have some game sense, people. There's so much more to playing survivor than running a jungle gym.

Sure, if they buff NOED as they have with dead hard. I'd suggest removing the totem aspect, like original NOED.

No.

I’m pretty content if I’ve reached endgame. NOED is just a comeback.

I'm I'm solo player 98% of the time and I have no problems with NOED at all.

Dem Bones Dem Bones