Thrill of The Hunt nerfed? Why?!

My guess is it was a mechanical/coding thing where they couldn't quite get it to consistently tell the difference between cleansing and blessing, but that's just conjecture- I don't know exactly why they made that change.

I'd caution against considering the perk useless, though. It slows down blessing by quite a lot and it doesn't lose tokens when a totem is blessed, so they have to go deal with it if they don't want to endure the slowdown.

Before the notification was removed, i was already missing it sometimes. I thought that it would be better to make it like discordance: a permanent noise notification. But now... the perk lost its most important effect: her power to defend a hex. And i don't think they'll back track.

I, uh. What?

I'm literally saying you shouldn't try and use Thrill to protect totems anymore, it's slowdown to make survivors waste time.

If they wanted a Boon Slowdown perk, they should have added one. Not basically deleted the only actual Totem Defense perk killers had.

Thrill should not be a hex perk, at least.

It would almost make sense as a boon slowdown perk if it weren't a hex. The fact that it only has an effect on the game if the survivors are using 2 specific perks, and can be permanently removed from the game by 1 cleanse or bless is absolutely ridiculous.

Thrill still has a place in an all Hex build, I'm not sure where you're getting that from. It slows down cleansing too, so it's actually slightly better in that gimmick build than it was before.

Losing the noise notification is a shame, and I do think that it could use a different secondary effect to balance it out - though what that'd be I have no idea - but that hardly means it's been binned. It's much stronger than Lightborn because survivors are bringing hex totems in almost every game, and even if they don't, it's now an actual utility perk for hexes instead of being bargain-bin Undying for protecting them. Frankly, the all-Hex build is where this perk now shines and actually has a use instead of swapping it out for a second actual-effect Hex.

Thrill has not been nerfed into the ground, it hasn't been essentially deleted, and it isn't worthless. It's been repurposed to more of a passive role, which is a shame because the noise notification did open up some fun opportunities- not because it's a lesser perk now.

No it doesn't. New Thrill doesn't enable you to defend your other 3 perks in that gimmick build, so you're better off with more punishment or mitigation for them breaking your Totems. At this point you are way better off running Undying, Haunted, Retribution, and Ruin/Devour. Old Thrill was arguably better than Retribution in that build if you were on a fast Killer.

Here's the thing, the noise notification was 100% of the reason I personally ran Thrill. That being gone means that it is a dead perk to me. I see absolutely zero reason to slot the new version into my build ever. If I'm having trouble with Boons, I'll just run a Killer who does not care at all if they're in play (which I am already doing btw). Alternatively, I can run Exposed perks and not care about Boons that way but still get value if they happen to not be in play. Seriously... there are far far far better ways to counter Boons than New Thrill because those other ways don't fall on their face if boons aren't in play.

I mean, sure, if you're gonna move from talking in general to talking about your personal tastes I obviously don't have much to say there. If you don't wanna run Thrill, that's totally fine, that wasn't my goal here!

I brought that up to illustrate a point.

I would suspect that there were far more killer players like me who ran Thrill for the Loud Noise as opposed to the passive slowdown. They deleted the thing that made some people run it and for what? More passive, invisible slowdown.

Regardless of whether or not new Thrill is stronger or not, its design is way worse. Passive, invisible slowdown is boring. That's all Thrill does now. Passive, invisible slowdown that you don't even know how much it is helping because it is beyond easy to avoid it completely. How is this a fun perk? Why would anybody run it? Honestly, I don't think anybody is running it because of those things.

To make it worse, they butchered the fun part of Thrill of the Hunt the patch where Retribution got a buff that would have made those two perks combo together in a very fun way. Loud noise notification telling me where there's an oblivious Survivor? Sign me up! But no... Thrill is dead.

I mean... it basically is dead.

If you want strong perks regardless of how fun they are, you have better options. You won't run Thrill.

If you want perks with interesting effects, well... it doesn't really have anything interesting going on. You won't run Thrill either.

If you want perks with big, fun, and obvious effects... well it's all passive slowdown. You won't run Thrill either.

That's Timmy, Johnny, and Spike all not caring at all. Where does that leave it? Nowhere. That's why it is a dead perk. Even if it isn't technically useless... nobody will equip it.

Alright you responded before I edited, so let me expand on what I edited in.

Are you familiar with Timmy, Johnny, and Spike? If you are, you can skip the rest of this. It's a system the Devs of Magic the Gathering came up with to classify their different players. Timmy wants things to be BIG. Big effects, big numbers whatever, it just has to be big and obvious. Johnny wants to come up with and pull off a weird, interesting, probably convoluted plan. He cares more about that plan going off than winning. Spike just wants to win. He wants the most powerful and efficient things in the game and doesn't care about the rest of it. Sure, this is for MTG but honestly it can easily be applied to DBD as well.

Timmy isn't going to care about new Thrill because it isn't big or exciting.

Spike isn't going to care about new Thrill because there are far more powerful and efficient perks in the game.

Johnny might care about it if they can come up with something interesting with it... but speaking as somebody who is 100% a Johnny, I see nothing. The noise notification was the fun, interesting thing about the perk that you could potentially build around and it got deleted.

If you can explain what sort of player might actually care about the new version of the perk... well I'm all ears. But I really don't see it. I fully expect new Thrill to be almost never used.

I don't think you're right. Yes, Thrill is the best at what it does, but Spike wants "The Best", full stop. New Thrill isn't that. Why would Spike pick Thrill over Corrupt, Pop, Ruin, Undying, Tinkerer, BBQ, or Infectious and maybe even Deadlock? Bit of a trick question there because he won't. Johnny is the one who builds around perks that are best at what they do... but like I said, most of the interesting combos you can make with Thrill disappeared with the Noise Notification.

Edit: Also now I kind of want to try new Retribution + Undying on someone. 20s of aura reading and being able to see and sneak up on people on Dulls sounds pretty neat.