Let's talk Bannable Offenses
I'll list those that I know, if I get any wrong or leave some out you can always just comment what it is.
Cheating (obviously)
Griefing
Hate Speech/Harassment
Forgot the rest, feel free to discuss this topic in the comments.
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https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system#latest
First off, can we disable the profanity filter? Im german and we don't censor profanity so its kinda triggering. Its ultimately pointless too as everyone knows whats being said by context.
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Can we talk about what classifies as "Hateful speech"? Its really vague and kinda sounds like you can be banned for a non existent emotion perceived by a third party.
Also i hate DS and NOED, don't ban me pls.2 -
@ChesterTheMolester said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system#latestFirst off, can we disable the profanity filter? Im german and we don't censor them so its kinda triggering. Its ultimately pointless too as everyone knows whats being said by context.
Also
Can we talk about what classifies as "Hateful speech"? Its really vague and kinda sounds like you can be banned for a non existent emotion perceived by a third party.
Also i hate DS and NOED, don't ban me pls.
excuse me, saying you hate noed is hate speech and im incredibly offended XD
jk your opinion is yours and i respect it. i dont hate either and i use noed.
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system#latestFirst off, can we disable the profanity filter? Im german and we don't censor profanity so its kinda triggering. Its ultimately pointless too as everyone knows whats being said by context.
Also
Can we talk about what classifies as "Hateful speech"? Its really vague and kinda sounds like you can be banned for a non existent emotion perceived by a third party.
Also i hate DS and NOED, don't ban me pls.
The profanity filter is there for the cultures that require it and also for the underaged crowd since some parents probably don't want their kids seeing certain things said.
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Required by law? For foreign services?powerbats said:The profanity filter is there for the cultures that require it.
Why don't many other forums install them?
I think the parents in this case are a bit more problematic given what DBD is than some words they are going to pick up sooner rather than later... so ######### em.powerbats said:
also for the underaged crowd since some parents probably don't want their kids seeing certain things said.1 -
Are you forgetting this is a public forum? If a kid wanders into it, the censorship is for that. I don't believe there's any in game, though I never found the need to cuss at someone.ChesterTheMolester said:
Required by law? For foreign services?powerbats said:The profanity filter is there for the cultures that require it.
I think the parents in this case are a bit more problematic given what DBD is than some words they are going to pick up sooner rather than later... so [BAD WORD] em.powerbats said:
also for the underaged crowd since some parents probably don't want their kids seeing certain things said.1 -
When they say hateful speech, I believe they mean cursing someone out or calling them rude names. It's probably too keep discourse civil.ChesterTheMolester said:https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system#latest
First off, can we disable the profanity filter? Im german and we don't censor profanity so its kinda triggering. Its ultimately pointless too as everyone knows whats being said by context.
Also
Can we talk about what classifies as "Hateful speech"? Its really vague and kinda sounds like you can be banned for a non existent emotion perceived by a third party.
Also i hate DS and NOED, don't ban me pls.
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Parents should monitor their kids use of the internet. And while public, its not undedicated. Its unlikely kids stumble upon this forum if they never heard of DBD, atleast less likely than certain abusive streamers that are currently popular among kids anyway.fluffybunny said:
Are you forgetting this is a public forum? If a kid wanders into it, the censorship is for that. I don't believe there's any in game, though I never found the need to cuss at someone.ChesterTheMolester said:
Required by law? For foreign services?powerbats said:The profanity filter is there for the cultures that require it.
I think the parents in this case are a bit more problematic given what DBD is than some words they are going to pick up sooner rather than later... so [BAD WORD] em.powerbats said:
also for the underaged crowd since some parents probably don't want their kids seeing certain things said.0 -
What is "profanity"? I'm german aswell, u can explain in German if you want toChesterTheMolester said:https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system#latest
First off, can we disable the profanity filter? Im german and we don't censor profanity so its kinda triggering. Its ultimately pointless too as everyone knows whats being said by context.
Also
Can we talk about what classifies as "Hateful speech"? Its really vague and kinda sounds like you can be banned for a non existent emotion perceived by a third party.
Also i hate DS and NOED, don't ban me pls.0 -
The game is either rated M 17+ or 18 depending on who rates it. Profanity is expected in a game with these rating. If parents buy DbD for their 10 year old thats on them.
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Schimpfwörter.DwightsLifeMatters said:
What is "profanity"? I'm german aswell, u can explain in German if you want toChesterTheMolester said:https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system#latest
First off, can we disable the profanity filter? Im german and we don't censor profanity so its kinda triggering. Its ultimately pointless too as everyone knows whats being said by context.
Also
Can we talk about what classifies as "Hateful speech"? Its really vague and kinda sounds like you can be banned for a non existent emotion perceived by a third party.
Also i hate DS and NOED, don't ban me pls.
Kommt mir extrem komisch vor dass es in einem Forum gibt, das ein Spiel gewidmet ist was nicht für Minderjährige gedacht ist.
Ist nicht unsere Verantwortung, wenn ein kleines Kind herkommt, sondern die der Eltern.0 -
@ChesterTheMolester said:
Can we talk about what classifies as "Hateful speech"? Its really vague and kinda sounds like you can be banned for a non existent emotion perceived by a third party.There is no ambiguity in the meaning of “hateful speech”. It is a legal term that in part refers to derogatory remarks related to religion, race, gender, sexual orientation, disabilities, and many others. In fact, your name in these forums could be construed as a violation, so I’m not really surprised that you are asking this.
@Peanits @not_Queen does his name violate the rules of these forums, and/or of the game itself? I know for a fact that it violates Sony’s rules, if he is on PSN.
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This reminds me of Steam constantly asking the user to input their date of birth to view games. I took a week ban on the official Steam forums (not the Steam DBD forums) in a thread over that issue (flaming for saying "thanks for the obvious lesson in obviousness, Captain Obvious") but in the end Steam now remembers our DOB and we no longer have to constantly enter it.
Basically, companies are under no obligation to censor or protect children and do so voluntarily. Frankly, it is a waste of time but it's on Behav10r to change or not. I mean reading obscene language can't be any worse than viewing an obscene picture and they are plastered all over the internet.
If you let your child online it is your responsibility to police the content they consume not anyone else's. Behav10r nor any other game company in the business of creating violent games are never going to get Parent's Choice award or even so much as a thank you.0 -
@Kaelum said:
@ChesterTheMolester said:
Can we talk about what classifies as "Hateful speech"? Its really vague and kinda sounds like you can be banned for a non existent emotion perceived by a third party.There is no ambiguity in the meaning of “hateful speech”. It is a legal term that in part refers to derogatory remarks related to religion, race, gender, sexual orientation, disabilities, and many others. In fact, your name in these forums could be construed as a violation, so I’m not really surprised that you are asking this.
@Peanits @not_Queen does his name violate the rules of these forums, and/or of the game itself? I know for a fact that it violates Sony’s rules, if he is on PSN.
That depends on what country you live in. In the USA there is no hate speech as we have the freedom of speech and can say anything, regardless of offense taken as long as life and limb are not in imminent danger for doing so. Do not yell bomb on a plane, do not yell fire in a crowded theatre are examples but yelling for a mob to kill a criminal isn't nor is calling for violent revolution against the government.
A hate crime is willfully planning and carrying out a crime on a person protected by hate crime law. As an example, if you plot to attack a transgender person and do so you have committed a hate crime. But if you so happen to get into a fist fight against a transgender person that is not a hate crime. That is where it ends. Speech is not included.
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Freedom of speech doesn't erase hate speech. It's protected by law, but companies can still react to it as they may. It just means you can't get censored by the government, I believe.Tucking_Friggered said:@Kaelum said:
@ChesterTheMolester said:
Can we talk about what classifies as "Hateful speech"? Its really vague and kinda sounds like you can be banned for a non existent emotion perceived by a third party.There is no ambiguity in the meaning of “hateful speech”. It is a legal term that in part refers to derogatory remarks related to religion, race, gender, sexual orientation, disabilities, and many others. In fact, your name in these forums could be construed as a violation, so I’m not really surprised that you are asking this.
@Peanits @not_Queen does his name violate the rules of these forums, and/or of the game itself? I know for a fact that it violates Sony’s rules, if he is on PSN.
That depends on what country you live in. In the USA there is no hate speech as we have the freedom of speech and can say anything, regardless of offense taken as long as life and limb are not in imminent danger for doing so. Do not yell bomb on a plane, do not yell fire in a crowded theatre are examples but yelling for a mob to kill a criminal isn't nor is calling for violent revolution against the government.
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@fluffybunny said:
There is still hate speech... freedom of speech doesn't protect that.No, sorry, there is no hate speech and the freedom of speech trumps any attack on it. People are free to label any speech they choose anything they choose to but there is no legal protection from it.
Companies are private entities even if publically traded so their forums can be censored in any manner they choose. The right to free speech applies to public property and property you own. There are no hate speech laws in the USA and no crime is committed no matter how vile the speech.
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I changed it after the fact. I forgot that hate speech is protected technically. Doesn't mean people can't react to it and you can't face consequences because of it, but is a slippery slope when the government tries to limit what you say with stuff like that. Still, a company can legal hold people accountable for hate speech. We're on their platform.Tucking_Friggered said:@fluffybunny said:
There is still hate speech... freedom of speech doesn't protect that.No, sorry, there is no hate speech and the freedom of speech trumps any attack on it. People are free to label any speech they choose anything they choose to but there is no legal protection from it.
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@Tucking_Friggered there is “hate speech” in the US, but it by itself is not illegal. I am not an attorney, and I do not pretend to be one. When “hate speech” is combined with other acts, either perpetrated by you, or by others, it can become a “hate crime”. Companies tend to disallow “hate speech” to prevent financial liability, as “hate speech” can be used as the basis for a liability claim, which is a tort, not a crime.
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A hate crime does not require speech. Speech is irrelevant sans perhaps further strengthening a case for a hate crime. Targeting a protected group with premeditation because they are of said group is a hate crime. It doesn't require you to have used hate speech prior to doing so only that they prove you targeted them because of being in said group.
Of course videos with you railing against and using hateful words about the protected group before carrying out the crime is going to make prosecution much easier. But you are free to say whatever vile remarks you care to about said group all day long every day and you will never be guilty of a crime only of being an [BAD WORD].
You are not guilty of a hate crime just by being involved in a crime that includes one of those protected group members. Meaning, a fist fight with someone of said group does not become a hate crime even if you win without them proving prior to the fight you purposefully sought out one of that group to fight.
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Ok some things on Freedom of Speech that everyone misunderstands.
1.It only restricts the government's right to censor you on government property aka state or federal or local etc.
- It has no effect on private property aka a movie theatre etc, your home aka kick someone out or off your property
3.You can't for instance yell fire in a crowded movie theatre, you can't call for the overthrow of the government, or threaten people etc.
4.There are some restrictions on it even on government property but those are limited.
5.On a private property aka a companies own website/forums/servers both game and non game you have no free speech rights at all. When on or using any of these you agree to follow their rules and if you violate said rules they can censor you, temp ban you or perma ban you at their leisure.
They also can kick you just because they don't like you or because they randomly chose your name out of a hat.
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@Might_Oakk said:
The game is either rated M 17+ or 18 depending on who rates it. Profanity is expected in a game with these rating. If parents buy DbD for their 10 year old thats on them.It boggles my mind that people expect this game to be catered to kids and remove some language and gore because kiddies play it. Too bad, so sad, monitor what your kids do. While I'm all for being able to curse, I don't want to be told to go F myself or that I'm a C*** because they didn't like my play-style on a daily - so I get why it's there.
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1. Im not a legal expert at all, especially poutinian law, as im a citizen of Germany.Kaelum said:@ChesterTheMolester said:
Can we talk about what classifies as "Hateful speech"? Its really vague and kinda sounds like you can be banned for a non existent emotion perceived by a third party.There is no ambiguity in the meaning of “hateful speech”. It is a legal term that in part refers to derogatory remarks related to religion, race, gender, sexual orientation, disabilities, and many others. In fact, your name in these forums could be construed as a violation, so I’m not really surprised that you are asking this.
@Peanits @not_Queen does his name violate the rules of these forums, and/or of the game itself? I know for a fact that it violates Sony’s rules, if he is on PSN.
I had no idea if it was a legal term or company specific.
2. I've been around here for quite a while and got reactions from every mod and dev that has been seen more than once, if it was i think someone would have done something about it, especially before i became one of this forum's classics.
3. Why should i frankly care about Sony's company policy here? They are not even the same company or related and are on a completely different continent. Their rules are most likely based on local sensitivities so i don't give an honest ######### as long im not using their services, which i don't when im here.Post edited by ChesterTheMolester on0 -
They mention Sony's policy because it's one of the platforms you can play it on, pretty sure.ChesterTheMolester said:
1. Im not a legal expert at all, especially poutinian law, as im a citizen of Germany.Kaelum said:@ChesterTheMolester said:
Can we talk about what classifies as "Hateful speech"? Its really vague and kinda sounds like you can be banned for a non existent emotion perceived by a third party.There is no ambiguity in the meaning of “hateful speech”. It is a legal term that in part refers to derogatory remarks related to religion, race, gender, sexual orientation, disabilities, and many others. In fact, your name in these forums could be construed as a violation, so I’m not really surprised that you are asking this.
@Peanits @not_Queen does his name violate the rules of these forums, and/or of the game itself? I know for a fact that it violates Sony’s rules, if he is on PSN.
I had no idea if it was a legal term or company specific.
2. I've been around here for quite a while and got reactions from every mod and dev that has been seen more than once, if it was i think someone would have done something about it, especially before i became on of this forum's classics.
3. Why should i frankly care about Sony's company policy here? They are not even the same company or related and are on a completely different continent. Their rules are most likely based on local sensitivities so i don't give an honest ######### as long im not using their services, which i don't when im here.0 -
I know, but thats not how anything works. I play on PSN but use a different name and haven't been even warned, i do play by their rules, as long as im using their services, like i said.fluffybunny said:
They mention Sony's policy because it's one of the platforms you can play it on, pretty sure.ChesterTheMolester said:
1. Im not a legal expert at all, especially poutinian law, as im a citizen of Germany.Kaelum said:@ChesterTheMolester said:
Can we talk about what classifies as "Hateful speech"? Its really vague and kinda sounds like you can be banned for a non existent emotion perceived by a third party.There is no ambiguity in the meaning of “hateful speech”. It is a legal term that in part refers to derogatory remarks related to religion, race, gender, sexual orientation, disabilities, and many others. In fact, your name in these forums could be construed as a violation, so I’m not really surprised that you are asking this.
@Peanits @not_Queen does his name violate the rules of these forums, and/or of the game itself? I know for a fact that it violates Sony’s rules, if he is on PSN.
I had no idea if it was a legal term or company specific.
2. I've been around here for quite a while and got reactions from every mod and dev that has been seen more than once, if it was i think someone would have done something about it, especially before i became on of this forum's classics.
3. Why should i frankly care about Sony's company policy here? They are not even the same company or related and are on a completely different continent. Their rules are most likely based on local sensitivities so i don't give an honest ######### as long im not using their services, which i don't when im here.
But that aside BHVR is not responsible for Sony, not for their rules nor enforcing them on a platform owned by them, especially their own customers.
Thats like saying i have to follow Namibian laws and am subject to their sovereignty because my home country has relations to them, which is absurd.
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What happens in the ingame chat is not the same as what happens on the forum, and im pretty sure i'd get (rightly-) punished for calling you a ######### and telling you to ######### yourself, which makes the filter even more mind boggling.Jesya said:@Might_Oakk said:
The game is either rated M 17+ or 18 depending on who rates it. Profanity is expected in a game with these rating. If parents buy DbD for their 10 year old thats on them.It boggles my mind that people expect this game to be catered to kids and remove some language and gore because kiddies play it. Too bad, so sad, monitor what your kids do. While I'm all for being able to curse, I don't want to be told to go F myself or that I'm a C*** because they didn't like my play-style on a daily - so I get why it's there.
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system#latestFirst off, can we disable the profanity filter? Im german and we don't censor profanity so its kinda triggering. Its ultimately pointless too as everyone knows whats being said by context.
Also
Can we talk about what classifies as "Hateful speech"? Its really vague and kinda sounds like you can be banned for a non existent emotion perceived by a third party.
Also i hate DS and NOED, don't ban me pls.
Sorry for the long wait, what I'd classify as hate speech is just being spiteful out of someone's religion, sexuality, gender, etc.
Example: "God, gay people just need to burn in hell."
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