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Does anyone think that Bubba is too OP ?
Sure you may say that it all depends on who's using Bubba, obviously, that goes for every killer. But I’ve noticed Bubba's chainsaw lasts more longer than Billy's. And I think that time for Bubba's chainsaw is too OP. With that much time swinging, you can literally hit all survivors near by at once ! I've had a match where Bubba literally pinned down 3 survivors at once. And of course, we were all dead. Also Bubba’s chainsaw is more difficult to avoid than Billy’s. I find this annoying and makes me roll my eyes whenever I see a match and Bubba is the killer. So Idk if it's just me, but I really feel like Bubba's chainsaw can use a de-buff. What do you guy’s think ?
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I don't think he is overpowered, but I do think he was a bit overbuffed.
I am not really a fan of the whole "charges" system. I think removing the movement speed penalty while charging up the chainsaw and making sure his add-ons worked properly would've been enough.
But then again, that is just me.
In the general aspect, Bubba is fine.
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He is not
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He’s fine. Though his add ons get a little insane
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Imo bubba is mostly fine. I just dislike how bubba relies on the chilli addons (mostly the purple one) and has plenty of useless addons.
Although his ability to deny any save if he is facecamping is problematic, but that's for another topic.
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If anything, Bubba could use some QoL buffs like better addons. If he downs three survivors in one sweep, he earned those downs, or they were given to him by survivors who clumped together knowing they were facing him.
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I don't really think he's OP, just annoying to face because of how much people love to camp with him.
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I don't play Bubba for certain reasons
All I can say is he's fine... right now
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Please tell me your joking. Can we please stop saying crap like this. Bubba is fine leave him alone. The reason is because if us killers dare to say do you think this survivor perk is op or this survivor item is op then all hell breaks lose and you start saying stop crying for nerfs to our stuff even worse than when you mention stuff about killers.
He is absolutely fine watch yourself with him and try and make him crash into objects. The only think I don't like about bubba is the facecamping ones cos unless that bubba seriously messes up you ain't rescuing even more so basement bubbas
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Bubba is in a really good place and shouldn't be touched. His ability to camp is still stupid but I don't really think they can do anything about it.
Bubba just requires you to drop pallets early. If your at a window it can counter him massively but bamboozle helps him with that. Like most killers in this game if he has a good first chase, and he finds your weak link, then he'll get a 4k easily.
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He is.. alright I'd say. He can bit a wee bit... nah I won't go this way, but he is very good with Bamboozle. He gets rid of windows with it and his Chainsaw gets rid of pallets really fast.
But again, he has no mobility and playing safe and predropping pallets is a good strat if Survivors do gens fast. Gens go faster than Bubba can get rid of pallets. But yeah, unefficient Survivors will make it quite easy for Bubba to dominate.
He is a bit uncreative, but he always was. He could use some changes, mainly to his camping aspect.
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He is in a good spot right now except for camping however that won't change unless they do something about camping.
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Bubba is fine.
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Your main comparison here is that Bubba's chainsaw lasts longer than, and is easier to avoid than, Billy's chainsaw.
The problem with that is Billy is a pretty low tier Killer IMO, so Bubba being stronger than him doesn't say much.
Bubba is one of the easier Killers to loop
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He is not OP. Next topic please.
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Bubba is not OP at all.
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Not OP, but his ability to camp or rather mow down the rescued survivor instantly even if BT was in is stupid.
though the devs have said they want to address hard camping either way so maybe that will be solved anyway
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Yep, he is killer on training wheels.
- As long as you can hook one person one time, you’re guaranteed at least one kill (no other killer can really do this, perhaps Trickster)
- Chainsaw sweep that typically requires very little accuracy or precision, except on some loops (especially compared to his predecessor, Hillbilly)
- Chainsaw sweep can run for ridiculous amounts of time and distance (outlasting Sprint Burst) with the chili and other add-ons, also allowing for multiple downs
- Three chainsaw sweep charges by default that recharge far too quickly, even without the add-ons
- Far less punishing revving function comparative to Hillbilly; I think it’s up to five seconds of revving without add-ons to make him enter his tantrum, which it also cools down at the same rate as it builds up
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Imo he is the perfect 1v1 chase killer. In the hands of a good Bubba his power can be really scary and opressive for the survivor. If you are too cocky or greedy with paletts he will punish you very hard. Nobody will body block him because survivors actually respect his power just like it should be. He is scary to face but reasonable manageable.
However i do think his ability to face camp is critical and unhealthy for the game. Yes i've done it myself. Yes it can be very satisfying to make sure that one toxic person dies. But in general i think no killer should be able to get multiple downs at a unhook. Especially if that killer is able to completely ignore Borrowed Time and catch up in a single use of this power, like Bubba.
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no
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He's not OP, but I do think he's quite overtuned for how easy he is to play as, especially with Bambozlee. Imo he should never be stronger than Billy.
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He’s very good. Good for beginner’s and good against beginners, but he’s not op. In most high rank games you rarely see him cus he isn’t as useful anymore when playing against veterans.
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That’s an issue with Billy being a bit weak, not Bubba being a bit strong.
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Yup. Hillbilly definitely needs some huge buffs.
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He’s above average but his lack of map mobility makes him weaker against survivors who spread out. “Facecamping” Bubba is a popular complaint but note that 1 kill is still a loss, so a Bubba who literally just downs one person and stands by a hook for two minutes will have all the gens be done and the game be over by the time that person dies if the survivors are doing the gens efficiently.
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Given they all know the person is being camped, and aren’t all going to the hook at the same time, and no Deadlock or Ruin... see the problem here?
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How is Ruin a problem if Bubba isn’t chasing people off gens? It has literally no effect.
And we’re talking here about higher skill survivors for balance purposes who should have a pretty good idea when the killer is camping. The top survivors don’t even try to do a save until close to a hook stage ending.
P.S. No doubt Deadlock is a good perk, that’s why it’s gaining popularity.
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Bubba's fine. He's still a low mobility killer at the end of the day, just play safer against him than you normally would and know where the windows are in the event he makes a big deadzone because he ate all the pallets.
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That survivors have to show more forward thinking than a common mayfly?
Bubba is loud as hell, even with insidious he's a massive guy, easy to spot, especially now that every map is daytime.
Ruin only takes effect if you leave the gen, and is a breakable totem.
Deadlock only affects one gen at a time, upon completing a gen, and doesn't block for that long, especially if the killer isn't leaving the hook to check the gen that was blocked, which is about 50% of the purpose of the perk. With ruin it could get some progress reversed, but not really a ton and again, only as long as the totem is standing, which in the current meta (especially with boons) isn't long at all.
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As others have said, that's a problem with Billy not getting enough return for the skill it takes to be good with him
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Yes, against beginners.
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Bubba is fine great even with the one exception of his camping
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Exactly. Assuming all solo players here. So I think Bubba might be camping from across the map with Ruin active. I do my best to commit to the gen, but guess what? No one's saved the guy and he's about to hit second stage. I can either finish this generator then go, assume someone closer is saving, or risk that the killer may not even be there and leave my gen to regress. It's a lose-lose scenario either way.
Even doing all gens optimally, they are spread throughout a map and there is just no mathematical way all five are done if someone is being camped early on.
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4 solo queue players and none of them thought to bring Kindred? Seems unlikely.
I mean, you could assume, but why would you when you can bring a perk that will just tell you?
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It's always a perk that's the solution, isn't it? Camping, tunneling, and slugging require no perk usage from the killer (their perks only enhance these playstyles); yet survivors always have to bring a perk for this or that situation. And it often requires multiple survivor perks to counter those playstyles, from one or more survivors.
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If you’re trying to argue that survivors are underpowered without certain perks you’re probably not going to get much traction with that argument. Consider for instance you yourself just argued that Bubba needs to bring Deadlock and Ruin for facecamping to have a chance of working.
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He doesn't need to; again, it simply enhances it. It can obviously work without them.
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Against beginners Bubba is particularly strong because they don't know how to really deal with him. The longer you play and more you learn about how to engage with each killer, the more Bubba's flaws start to stand out. Bubba's not really that menacing once you realize how easy it is to make him bonk on terrain. He's not as fast Billy so he can turn in circles, but most objects in dbd have collision boxes that are a bit larger than the actual item itself. Bubba's saw can and will get stuck in those and cause him to tantrum which drastically his chase potential with the saw.
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Your example above was “I’m on a gen with Bubba and Ruin active so I don’t want to leave the gen”. No Ruin, no risk leaving the gen for a few seconds.
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You're comparing apples to pomegranates.
Perks serve 2 functions.
1. Enhance playstyle (slugging, genrushing, tunneling, hookswarming, etc) both sides have different strategies that can be employed without perks, but the perks help.
2. Assistsnce against certain scenarios. (Getting camped or tunneled, getting blinded or pallet stunned repeatedly) those also can be dealt with without perks, but the perks help.
You never need a perk, but yes, If you run into the same situation over and over, whether playing killer or survivor, there is usually a perk that will help you in that situation. That's what they exist for.
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Very strong against beginners and very weak against experienced players. The multi-down ability is a complete non-factor if survivors spread out, which they should do the second they see it's a Bubba.
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I honestly don't think he should have charges. He's plenty powerful enough with 1 charge, considering the only way to do anything against him is if you are at a window.
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A more consistent chainsaw for zero mobility is going to be harder to avoid than a less consistent chainsaw that allows mobility.
Bubba is fine, he's honestly one of the most balanced and fun-to-go-against killers right now. If you're struggling against him, that's a you problem.
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If you actually believe he is OP, you are not as good of a survivor as you might be led to believe you are. He's only rough for beginners. Intermediate/good players will chain tiles and windows together, not go for pointless hook saves, etc.
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He's not OP, no. What makes him appear dangerous is how easy to use his power is and that a camping Bubba is very often impossible to get the better of.
He's basically a killer for beginners, or a "no-brain bubba" - a killer who perhaps needs the least skill to master, and highest low-skill/high-reward payoff.
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If camping was dealt with in a manner where killers could still do it but not excessively and where playstyles werent so “cheesed out” I think Bubba would be fine IMO.
As for his add ons, I don’t find them to be an issue tbh, because he is fairly ok to loop, and it comes down to positioning on both parts.
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No. You can DH through him while the saw is going.
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Lazy killer for lazy people who want to put in as little effort to ruin somebody's experience.
There's a reason you dont see Bubba campers play Nurse, because they cant power trip with her.
People who play him normally are fine and I think Bubbas not OP as a chase killer
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He's not op if anything for me I enjoy the intense feeling he brings when he's got a long chainsaw going and you end up in a dead zone and you just pray you don't get it.
Gets your adrenaline pumping
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Quite frankly he needs to be buffed.
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He's fine. Some of his weaker addons could use some changes though.
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