Questions to high rank killer mains.

@Vietfox, @thesuicidefox and @powerbats. Would this be a good build:
BBQ and Chilli (I spend a lot of my game doing chases to protect my gens),
Sloppy butcher (Awesome perk)
A Nurses calling (The mindgames!)
And Brutal strength (I really need this to help me deal with pallets I don't have it on Spirit yet but I need your advice on whether I should get this or just mindgame pallets. I'm ok with mindgaming them, but late game it gets rough for me).

Also is she viable without addons? I've played so much games and came out with 1 or 0 kills and it sucks because with her addons I get a 4k easily. Is she even playable without them? Please tell me because I'm one of those players who doesn't like to use addons when I only got a little of them.

For now I'm running,
BBQ and Chilli,
A nurses calling,
Sloppy butcher
And Hex: Ruin.

@popoles said:
Since I bought her, I played only 2 games with addons, the rest was without them. I prefer to play these killers (Hag, Nurse, Spirit) without addons, because you'll get used to their abilities.
She is viable, but much harder.

Nurse and Hag without addons are great. Ty for telling me, though I'll adapt to it, I like to challenge myself as killer.

@Vietfox said:
Poweas said:

@Vietfox said:

Poweas said:

@Vietfox, @thesuicidefox and @powerbats. Would this be a good build:

BBQ and Chilli (I spend a lot of my game doing chases to protect my gens),

Sloppy butcher (Awesome perk)

A Nurses calling (The mindgames!)

And Brutal strength (I really need this to help me deal with pallets I don't have it on Spirit yet but I need your advice on whether I should get this or just mindgame pallets. I'm ok with mindgaming them, but late game it gets rough for me).

Also is she viable without addons? I've played so much games and came out with 1 or 0 kills and it sucks because with her addons I get a 4k easily. Is she even playable without them? Please tell me because I'm one of those players who doesn't like to use addons when I only got a little of them.

For now I'm running,

BBQ and Chilli,

A nurses calling,

Sloppy butcher

And Hex: Ruin.



I run this on the spirit:

Stridor

Ruin

Monitor & Abuse 

Sloppy

(Bbq only when i want to farm)

Maybe I could try:

Stridor,

Sloppy,

BBQ and chilli

And A nurses calling?

Try different builds and choose the one which suits your playstyle

Thanks for the advice, I'll try out everything.

@Tsulan said:
Poweas said:

@Tsulan said:

Trash brutal Strength and for the love of God, take Franklin's. 

Ok. Thanks. If there's not a medkit should I run Brutal Strength?

Brutal Strength is trash. Never use it. 
If there's no medkit or flashlight, take Monitor&Abuse it's great on fast killers.

Ok. Thanks a lot.

@powerbats said:
Get rid of Ruin you'll be much better in the long run without relying on it.

If you see a more stealthy group camo outfits aka P3 Claudette's Megs Neas etc take Whispers and be aware it triggers on hooked people. You just have to learn to ignore htat white noise so to speak and discern when it's actually finding someone.

BBQ if you're farming but if not Sloppy if no medkits since it really buys you time even with others healing since they're not ong ens anymore.

Franklins if you see more than 2 medkits/toolboxes/flashlights or a combo of 4 items and memorize where you smacked them since they'll always go back to that spot if you lose them.

Bitter Murmur is great for the free tracking both when gens get done and endgame especially if you're using Rancor and or have an Ebony.

Ebony, speaks for itself but even if you forget to use it the mere presence of it will make them play much more careful.

Rancor, great for mind gaming the obsession especially if it's a swf group since you can go one way for those 3 seconds then another entirely.

M&A, this is a great one for her especially if not using her Prayer Beads but with Prayer Beads and Yakuyoke Amulet you can get much much closer before phasing. That makes your jump scares that much more evil and allows you to either get a grab plus hit if more than one of multiple hits.

Brutal I don't bother with since you want to mind game pallets anyways and if you bring Spirit Fury it's wasted and besides if you bring Brutal. You get tempted to destroy pallets you want left up so you can bait survivors into using them.

MYC is awesome on her since you can run off or even phase off from the hook quickly so by the time you're halfway through phasing it'll proc. Yuo cna turn around mid phase usually and head right back to the hook for a free down or 2.

Ty

@AntiJelly said:

@Poweas said:

@AntiJelly said:
Alright, listen. Hex: Ruin? You can trash it for this: Nurse's Calling, Sloppy Butcher, Knockout, and a perk of your choice. You can use knockout to essentially take someone out of the game by leaving them on the floor then finding someone else, and then sloppy butcher makes the healing take longer. You can then use Nurse's to spot people if they do find the downed person, then take advantage of that information. I usually run BBQ as my 4th perk for the bloodpoints and pressure potential.

I might run Deerstalker for my last 1 if I want a slugging build. I'm going to level her up and get knock out to tier 3, that sounds like a ridiculously strong build lol. As Spirit, should I guard close gens or should I patrol the whole map?

Eh, that's a general killer question. It depends on the setup. Say if you have 2 gens left, 3 of them are close and 1 is far away. You might as well let that 4th one go and protect the closer 3. You just gotta pay attention and use game sense to decide what to do.

Thanks.

@PhantomMask20763 said:
On my Spirit I run
Make your choice
BBQ and Chili
Nurses calling
and my last perk depends on what I feel like running. Normally it's Spirit Fury or Enduring
As for the Insta heals, exposed status perks or Franklins demise work very good against them
I haven't played much Spirit in a while but I do love to play her. Hope this helped out a little bit!!!

Thanks a lot.

@Vortexas said:
If Insta Heals are a problem, the only direct counter would be Franklins.

It's just a matter of knowing when to expect it. When you see someone with a Med-Kit Healing always assume they are about to tap it into an insta-heal.

On Billy this shouldn't be much of a problem, as a fast saw hit will trump it.

On Spirit I'd say depending on the Map if you are really worried about it try Rancor, Haunted Ground, or even Good Old Devour Hope.

NOED never hurt either for a little extra insurance.

Remember when playing Killer there is no Made up Code of Honor, Ethics, or Morality.

You kill, or you fail. How you do it is entirely up to you.

Yup. Which is why I've decided to go rouge and forget my survivor rulebook while I'm killer. I'm definitely going to run @AntiJelly 's build, slugging is super fun as Nurse. I wonder how it is with Spirit who is so good at chasing.

@Vortexas I'll just say, I'm never running NOED. Unless survivors 'break' me to the point that my rule is just a thing of the past, I will never touch that perk.

@Vortexas said:

@Poweas said:

@Vortexas said:
If Insta Heals are a problem, the only direct counter would be Franklins.

It's just a matter of knowing when to expect it. When you see someone with a Med-Kit Healing always assume they are about to tap it into an insta-heal.

On Billy this shouldn't be much of a problem, as a fast saw hit will trump it.

On Spirit I'd say depending on the Map if you are really worried about it try Rancor, Haunted Ground, or even Good Old Devour Hope.

NOED never hurt either for a little extra insurance.

Remember when playing Killer there is no Made up Code of Honor, Ethics, or Morality.

You kill, or you fail. How you do it is entirely up to you.

Yup. Which is why I've decided to go rouge and forget my survivor rulebook while I'm killer. I'm definitely going to run @AntiJelly 's build, slugging is super fun as Nurse. I wonder how it is with Spirit who is so good at chasing.

I've Decimated Groups with NOED and Prayer Beads on spirit. Try it.

Yoke Amulet, Prayer Beads

Perks:

BBQ, Devour Hope, Toth, and Ruin.

You should be able to defend your totems rather handily, and the prayer beads will stop them from getting a heads up when you phase in.

Wait will thrill of the hunt actually work with her? I don't use any addons with her but I wonder if it works for protecting my totems though, I'm going to try that out.