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First of all realize the game is not over yet. As a killer you can snowball at any moment and pull it back. The first 2 gens are pretty much freebies in exchange for your first hook. Try avoiding the third one, if you get some good pallets at the start, break them and switch.

Second of all, base your choices on the situation at hand. Don't worry about the rules of survivors, if you have to proxy camp, swap targets, slug, tunnel, etc. to apply pressure... just do it.

Third, analyze the gen spread and consider focusing on 3 or 4 of them to tighten the map.

Forth, take a breather and try not getting tilted. The chances of messing up increase when you do.

Finally, yeah some games you will lose and that is ok. Do your best, that is all you can do. Map and spawn RNG can really be against or in favor of you, but you will only get better if you try.

I am by no means perfect, I get the frustration. Yet that is all we can do. Corrupt can help, I like it... yet isn't always the best option. Discordance or lethal are also nice for instance. Build are very dependent on killer and playstyles.

1. Its normal 3 gens not 2 unless your running deadlock. Snowball is made almost impossible with CoH negating any pressure you might get from leaving people injured to defend gens.

2. At 2 gens left you need to remove someone asap or there is no way to split pressure between 4 gens and 4 survivors.

3. Not chase at the beginning and try to hold a 3 gen but again CoH kind of makes that strat way less effective.

4. This is solid advice have no counter points

Some times the "RNG" is bad repeatedly. I started playing oni first 3 matches were ok really like the killer. Then it was hawkings,hawkings,midwich,lerrys so I stopped playing him for about a month. Decided to play him again.... lerrys. After that match I was going to change killers because I was pretty annoyed and was like no ill play him one more time just because I got a bad map once should ruin it

I got F LERRYS.

I agree, I almost always use that instead of any other slowdown perk

I don't understand what you mean you can only chase one survivor at a time which leaves 3 to do gens in the time it takes you to find, chase,down and hook 3 gens can easily pop.

Even if you slug one and one has to come off to pick up thats still 2 people on gens with only 2 gens left how do you apply enough pressure consistently in that situation?

You can easily end up with a 2 gen split on each side of the map after your first chase outside of mobile killers how do you pressure that consistently?

I never said I have a game play and stick to it but you can easily start the game where unless survivors mess up its pretty much over.

You ended up with a 3k because the survivors let it happen not because of skill if they wouldn't of got over confident and feed you kills(which does take skill to capitalize on) the match ends with 1k 3 hook.

To greatly help with this issue BHVR would have to:

• Have all survivors start together at the start of a match
• Improve map design (please)
• Make killers at least A tier

This would automatically put the game in a much better state. But BHVR only sees dbd as a cash cow so we will never get them.

You can pressure multiple survivors off a single gen, meaning that they tend to move to a different gen spreading the damage around and allowing your gen regression perks, etc. to come into effect before they are completed. 3 Gens can easily pop, yet with a bit of additional pressure this can be just 2. The first 2 are totally free though regardless of what you do as a killer, anything at 5 or 4 gens is purely on the survivors.

Well, how do you do this and how do you do that... well it is very situational dependent, as I have indicated before; want to see better players than I showcase it there are many streamers and youtubers that showcase it all the time. As a killer you need to learn how to pressure multiple people at once, how to create advantages situations, know when to drop a chase or when you are wasting to much time and it is smarter to switch it up. Sure things like CoH are annoying and extend the game, but it still means they aren't on gens and recovering. If you hook one, chase one, one needs to come for the save and only one can be on a gen. Now, if you hit the one you are chasing, then manage to intercept the one going for the save... either the one you were chasing now has to save while damaged; while you also showcased the willingness to drop chase to contest it meaning it is difficult or the one healthy on the gen now needs to also go save. Manage to slug one on top of that etc. etc. My entire argument is that there isn't one cut and dry tactic, you need to consistently adapt and change to optimize your strategy on the go.

As a killer you rely on snowballing pressure to a state where survivors are busy resetting, healing and recovering over doing gens. The statement I never had a chance and a defeatist attitude is not going to allow you to recover from the downsides of the start. Survivors are by far the strongest at the start of the match, gens will always seem to be flying and if you aren't resilient to that and throw in the towel... you will always lose.

If they play perfectly without any flaws and always come in with the perfect body block at the correct time and spread out perfectly you will never stand a chance and therefore... why do you play killer? You can claim that me ending up with a 3k has zero skill involvement on my end, but that is blatantly false. Do I try and create situations where survivors are out of position, yes. Does it always work, no. If you played perfectly as a killer, you wouldn't be chased for long periods of time, in the end you are facing humans, they will make mistakes just like you will make mistakes. If I fall to far behind, I do rely on the survivors to overplay their hand... just like survivors need me to do the same when I have 3 of them slugged on the ground at 5 gens. At some points in the match if you fall so far behind, the only option you have is to create a window, a trap and hope the survivors go for it and that isn't reach when 3 gens pop.

Throw in the towel if you want, don't do your best, play smart and go cry in the corner of the map on how unfair it is to play killer... but frankly why do you boot up the game then? I for one still enjoy playing, even the killer role and I do pretty alright. I don't win all my games, yet in the far majority of them I do stand a chance and I can realize which parts I made the wrong call. You can only control what you do, so if you want to learn how to deal with bad RNG, a bad map and a 3 gen pop by your first hook... you need to focus on what you can do and who knows, you might see a mistake and regain ground.

Didn't the devs say they're going to be doing some sort of early game collapse? Or did that just get abandoned?

Does not happen to me that often, but it's even funnier when you load in and see someone on your hex perk right away.

I main Trapper...

Other than him, I like Spirit,Artist and may be Pinhead, Shape.

I dont mind losing. But recently playing Trapper is so depressed

Pretty much. Fix spawns and you've already fixed a bunch of issues.

Base gen speeds are okay the way they are, but things that speed that up I think should be looked at (mainly toolboxes/BNPs and prove).

One time I thought that gens could work on a segment bar instead of a full one like we have now. Let's say, if you start one piston you guarantee that segment of the repair, but if the killer stops your work then it resets back to its position. So, gens would work on a 25/25/25/25 repair progress. Even though It doesn't solve the genrush problem, I think it helps a bit, also, if this was somehow inplemented I think killers should have a passive for this feature, let's say if a nurse/blight has more mobility than a trapper as an example, then Nurse/ Blight could have more segments in the generator in comparison to trapper or M1 killers. Like 4 repair segments for high mobility killers and 2 for low mobility. But of course, if somehow this could work, gen slowdown perks would need a slight nerf to compensate.