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Survivors repair so fast gens
Why can survivors repair 4 gens at a time if I can't chase 4 at the same time, even though killer are a little bit faster survivors have way less things to do in a match than killers.
Killers waste more BP than survivors because they can find a flashlight or medkit in a chest, but killers can't get anything in match, you can be looking for a specific add-on but you can't find it so you waste more BP than a survivor.
Survivors doesn't need perks to play but killers does.
The game is so unbalanced that I can play with no mither as my only perk and win
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Killers make way more BP than Survivors though unless of course, they’re still learning/are bad at Killer (like me).
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But you waste them, you will never use properly the 30, furthermore survivors can make 30 but they just fix gens
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Because the devs hold the survivors hand to ensure that even the most baby survivors can escape, so that means gens not only have to just take 1 button to complete with a huge skill check but they need to get done fast too
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I have to play with headphones when playing killer, but as survivor just with the controller
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Some killers can perform well without addons. Huntress for example has good 1v4 potential and she doesn't rely on addons much. But you still need perks to find survivors because her 40 meter lullaby make survivors hide earlier.
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It's called comms. If they're on a gen at kill shack and you're in main say goodbye to kill shack gen if they have comms and throw a couple pallets or find a broken loop. Map cuck+comms cuck gg ez.
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Whispers is actually enough, if you learn how to use it. Bitter murmur is free for all too...
Gen regression perks are bigger issue and fact that BBQ is with licenced killer.
They should really make Jolt work for special attacks too.
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You would only have point back when Survivor doesn't lose add ons in trials so they would repeatedly carry their strongest kits every match.
It's fine. Survivors have garbage BP anyway and my Blight has some scuffed blood webs. Almost getting one black ward per cycle that I'm carrying my strongest add ons every game.
Seems pretty balanced to me.
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Ignoring the whole gens thing.
Killers make way more BP and have way less things in the bloodpoint.
Survivors have all the items, their variations, and many add-ons for every type of item, while killers only have add ons for their power
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Every killer has their own add-ons, while all survivors share the same item pool, and don't differ at all, once the perks are unlocked.
I really wish that the survivors had more of an identity, besides being a unique skin. Maybe we could design a few unique items for everyone, so that the choice of a survivor matters?
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Cos gen rush is a thing and has been for ages and devs have no plans to nerf it because apparently there is no issue. 😒
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Not if that SWF stomps them. You obviously don't play this game but good try.
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maps and spawns
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Yup, that’s a good argument
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- killer have to chase and hook. Survivors have to do gens, unhooks, exit gates, add. chase and healing. But sure, survivors have less to do.
- What you find as survivor has basically no impact on the match at all. Has nothing to do with wasting BPs. Btw. killer get much more BPs and have much less perks to grind.
- Thats totally wrong. Survivors basically have to run certain perks in order to even play the match thanks due to tunneling, camping and slugging.
- Sure. Pls record this, cause if this would be true, no survivor would have to use perks.
Summary: Just another whiny thread from someone who obviously cant play killer properly.
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Where did you get that from?
Survivors can earn just as much, if not more bloodpoints as the killer.
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Do you not play both sides?
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She has no 1v4 potential.
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The only killer right now that can do 1v4 is the PinHead by the way... However since the nerf that doesn t work so well right now... GG BHVR..
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No killer can perform well vs equal survivors if both sides are good.
Also no, whispers is not enough to win games vs good players either, you can repair all 5 gens in about 3-5 minutes without any gen speed up if killer has no slow down and noone can kill 2-3 survivors in that time no matter the killer if both sides are equally matched.
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Yeah, thats why i know for a fact that survivors can get as much points as the killer.
How bout you?
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Yet a gen can be repaired in like a minute, 30 seconds with toolboxes. The whole match can be over in 5 - 10 mins due to speeds of gens. You can't chase all four survivors so it puts you at a disadvantage. The game is survivor sided sorry
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Surv 32K and Killer 32K
Offerings or Perks for Bonus BP
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Yes, and everytime I player Killer I have more points than Survivors (unless I potato, which is not far-fetched).
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Whispers is detenction perk, not slowdown perk...
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So why I make more than 25k every survivor match, empathy, vigilia, we're gonna live forever and a exhaustion perk, (dead hard, lithe, Sprint)
And the we're gonna live forever bonus is after the points you get
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Have you considered, that the times you make more points than the survivors are simply, them being potatoes?
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Gens flying by is, apparently, by design.
The Devs have described their goal as "2 kills, 2 deaths, every game." That means that all 5 gens have to get finished every single game. And the only way that happens is if generators are so easy, fast, and unprotectable that survivors can pop them off before the killer gets any real momentum behind them.
A typical, "ideal" game is pretty much: killer takes out one survivor, all five gens are finished, killer gets one more survivor right before they can all flee through the gates, game over. So, don't anticipate any meaningful gen speed reduction. The folks with their fingers on the buttons have decided: All five gens, every game.
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"Survivors doesn't need perks to play but killers does. "
Let me think about this one...
Yes they do.
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Anyway you will make an exchange, the guy who un hook doesn't get resistance.
The Booba can chase you after he hit you and you die, nothing to do here.
Just learn to scape form Booba in chase not that hard
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You do realize that Bubba doesn't care there is a body blocking the other survivor right?
They will go down along with the other person.
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I mean, I got 8 likes on my comment which means I’m not the only one who believes this.
To put my own explanation out there:
Survivors have to compete with each other for points considering there are 4 of them vs 1 Killer who doesn’t have to worry about sharing points with anyone.
If a Killer performs well, they will always have more points (which is what my argument was from the beginning).
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That's the reason why since Nemesis (included) all the killers released have at least one gen regression/protection perk (since Twins without considering Trickster), because they are finally aware that the gen speeds are crazy and at least they want to give us varied forms of avoiding the gens get done in a blink (band-aid fix). In the case of Artist even the three perks. And almost all killer meta perks are related to this.
But there are still people saying that Gen rush doesn't exist and "JuSt PuT PreSSuRe".
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Survivors competing for points isn´t really the case. Most things give coop bonus points. If you want, i can spam you with screenshots of matches where i wildly outmatch the killers points wise.
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Despite the "gen speed awareness" the gen regresion/slowdown perks they have released are mostly a joke, only the artist scourge hook and deadlock are kinda of worth the perk slot and even there gens go quickly.
There is a good reason why people run ruin+undiying despite the risk of cleansing it before it does anything instead of oppresion, overcharge, jolt,etc and that is because the regresion % is basically less than 10 seconds of working of a gen, even pop regresion is redone in like 15 secs so, clearly a good idea with awfull tougth of speeds.
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Show the screenshots. Show them how you did it 😁
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that was the old footage, that bubba had 0 counterplay. just rev chainsaw forever, now at least while he activates the chainsaw you can make the 1 for 1, that was impossible before and if u dont have borrow time it doesnt matter he will make it and if he has addons he will make it after borrow time sprint aswell unless you get to a pallet or window.
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I mean It's hard to face a letherface, that's why the only counter against him is know how to loop, because once he hook someone is hard not to get down
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It is possible for Survivors to beat the Killer in points. If the Killer is doing very well, that will more than likely not be the case is what I’m getting at.
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You too are funny. I have had games where i outscored every survivor. I have also had games where qll 4 outscored the killer. Both roles have a bp cap at 32k...just got to do work.
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You aren't playing 4 different killers, but yes you can chase multiple survivors at a time. Pay attention to your surroundings, during a chase. And killers aren't wasting bps, they earn double the amount of bps, survivors get. As for gen speeds, learn to end chases faster, and run gen slowdown perks. Pop is honestly plenty enough for slowdown. Ruin/Undying is better for fast killers, like Blight, Billy, and Twins. Corrupt is plenty enough for Nurse and Huntress.
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Post edited by DangerScouse on1
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The Killer that I main, Legion, can completely bulldoze any attempts at genrushing. They highlight generators that are being worked on 2+ survivors with a yellow aura.
As for non-Legion players, just patrol the generators. You'll catch them eventually.
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Lol no offense but you arent playing good survivors yet.....This from someone who agrees gens arent the problem.
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I don't want to use the same four perks, in that case better play another game with only four perks.
Hexes last 5 seconds (the game usually spawn me in front of the totems as survivor).
The only killer that can finish survivors at the same time is letherface. (So what's the point of have 20+? Killers if only one or two works well without spending hundreds of hours)
When you don't genrush survivors get more points, you can get 24k even if you don't get anything of survive.
Maybe 10k of the BP in killers are used in something useful, so supposing that you get more BP as killer (that you don't, survivors can get the same amount of BP) the other 20k goes in trashy add-ons, perks and offerings.
As survivor 90% of perks are more useful , and all the stuff is useful too maybe grey toolboxes are kinda useless, survivors can use any perk and perform well
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The Killer didn’t do very well in any of those screenshots, which (for the 3rd time) is the point I’m trying to get across. 3-4 Survivors escaping isn’t a great game for the Killer (in my opinion) so of course you’re going to have as much/probably more than the Killer.
Again, in a game that a Killer is doing very well in, the Survivors surpassing the Killer in points is not very likely. But I do agree about the balance being around hooks instead of just kills/stages.
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You are missing the point.
Both sides get their bloodpoints from player interaction with the other side. Survivors can´t have a high amount of bloodpoints if the killer is bad and doesn´t get hooks. The absolute max amount of bloodpoints survivors can get from a bad killer is 21k. Survivors wont get unhook/heal points otherwise.
Survivors earning 25 to 27k points means, that the killer had a lot of chases, hooks, injured states. So he was everything but bad.
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We can agree to disagree my friend. You’re missing my point from the beginning, but its all good. 😇
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You claimed killers make more points than survivors. Which was proven wrong. But sure...
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