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Leatherface P2W
I find it hard to believe that Leatherface can 1-shot even when someone is in a snowman when all other killers inflicts limited or no damage.
We simply can't catch a break with this killer due to his license apparently.
Impossible to save against. The basement is automatic win with him because his saw lasts too long.
Impossible to escape in areas with limited pallets because of his never-ending saw.
Can down multiple survivors with absolute ease (no counterplay). Almost no cooldown after breaking a pallet and can instantly down someone.
Every time it is leatherface I know it is going to be a 4K and it usually is. I don't think that is balanced.
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I've missed these
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Long time no see
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I’m sorry, if you claim that Leatherface has “no counter play”, I can’t take your opinion seriously. It is widely known that he is one of the easiest killers in the game to loop, and he really struggles with windows. I play killer as Leatherface quite and bit and survivors who know how to loop usually destroy me
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Leatherface should move at 105% to balance out his ability to down all 4 survivors at once.
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The snowmen shouldn't be a free hit in the first place. But aside from that, best thing to do is do gens when Bubba is camping.
Any killer can camp, Bubba is just one of the killers that are better at doing it.
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You're right and we understand your concerns. That's why next patch, we will be changing award winning chili so it instead instantly refills all charges when hitting a pallet or a breakable wall. :>
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Don't clump together and he can't get you all.
Yes he can be strong. Brains can limit his success.
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Clown can't camp, I tried. Survivors run straight through your clouds and unhook. :'(
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Ok, so,
we all know what i'm gonna say..
What do you think about The Executioner?
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Or, as we call him in the business, Pyramid Head. *winky face*
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Leatherface is pretty bad in any normal circumstance but I agree with you on the basement. The basement should just be gone, it basically only benefits Bubba now.
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yes.
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LMAO! I didn't see that coming. Cudos :>
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I think you're just a bad player.
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Widely known? Please do ask all the survivors that are on their belly due to his saw. He can instantly break a pallet and be right on top of you again with his saw ready again. Also, you can't loop him with Bamboozle so he can always get an insta-down. There is a lot of situations where there is no counterplay.
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Sluzzy, who do you think is stronger, Leatherface or Nurse?
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I have missed this Sluzzy.
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Yes.
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The only thing I dislike about LF is how good he is at camping. Almost every LF I go against does this.
Edit: They love to bring NOED as well. Fun.
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I agree, Legion is OP and needs a nerf. Being able to LITERALLY ignore pallets and windows like they're nothing?! They're like the Nurse 2. Time for the nerf hammer.
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True :0
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That is a big problem because he has no penalty to using his saw. Normal speed with no slowdown. An insta-down should come with more difficulty.
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Idea don't go in a snowman if he's nearby and possibly knows you're in the area or in a chase.
Also what does his license have to do with him being P2W?
Yes there is escape it's just hard to do use trees, (if they're nearby) tight corners, or lockers and try to time the escape
Yes he can down multiple Survivors if they're all together and not playing safe and saying he has no counter play shows you haven't fully learned how to run the killer or you've never played him.
It's probably going to be a 4k every time because you like to put yourself in 2nd or just sacrifice yourself on the hook and make your team loose
If he's basement Bubba I've said it before don't go down there and you won't have a problem with him just do the gens simple.
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"If he's basement Bubba I've said it before don't go down there and you won't have a problem with him just do the gens simple."- It isn't always that simple. A lot of LF players like to use Iron Grasp/Agitation, then camp when they get you in the basement. Camping with him is insanely strong. I hope we get changes to camping soon.
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Ah #########, here we go again.
Leatherface can kill survivors in snowman, oh no, so broken...
Yeah, then you can go play Twins, ghostface, or billy.
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Ahhh great attitude.
One Killer using some meme build to cuck some idiots means camping needs to be "changed"
Stop trying to be a hero and save someone who can't be saved. Let the person in the basement die, do your gens and leave.
If you want camping to stop, stop feeding the camper.
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Kudos for continuing the anti-Bubba crusade. He must be brought to justice.
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What about the person on the hook? He is unable to play the game and had his game ruined. You think that's fair? Face camping shouldn't even be a thing.
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That doesn't change the fact that it still sucks for the person getting facecamped... they're a player in the video game too, you know. Think about it from their perspective.
I've been the person facecamped by the Bubba, facecamped in the basement, and everything under the facecamping sun. Many times. It sucks and is extremely boring, and it's not even fun or viable for the Killer... you end up with such abysmal points that it is 99% of the time used purely for spite and to make someone's experience miserable. At least the devs already confirmed that they're working on a solution for facecamping--I hope they find one that works soon(™).
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And the Killer who gets no Kills or Hooks? The Killer who think's he will get a down but nope your Snowman stopped it?
The newbie with 5 hours and 4 green perks into a full red rank swf?
The Killer trying to play with mutiple Coh's up?
The Killer who worked hard all game only for your key to let your team out? (pre nerf, a year after Mori's as well)
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Sluzzy we were missing you 😘
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Buddy facecamping was removed years ago with the introduction of swivel hooks. It's just hook bombing is stupid against leatherface cause that's what he wants.
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Finally, a being powerful enough to rival Sluzzy. Leatherface is OPAF if he can go toe to toe with a God.
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He is back!
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Don't worry Sluzzy, Bubba is probably already on the dev's "overperforming" radar.
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In all of those cases, the Killer still has full control of their character and can play the video game. In the case of facecamping, the Survivor being facecamped can't do anything. They have zero control of their character and have to just sit and wait until they're back to lobby.
Also, kinda weird to mention things that have nothing to do with the subject. Facecamping is a Killer behavior that is unwarranted--and it only punishes everyone involved. None of the Survivors get any bloodpoints to speak of due to lack of interaction with the Killer, the facecamped Survivor ends the game with <5k points, and the Killer gets next to no points as well. It is 99% of the time a spiteful interaction and serves no purpose except to waste everyones' time.
However, the things you mentioned are not spiteful in any way, shape or form. All of those things are part of normal gameplay and if anything are to be blamed on poor matchmaking and imbalance, rather than player behavior. Facecamping is purely a behavioral problem.
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"In all of those cases, the Killer still has full control of their character and can play the video game. In the case of facecamping, the Survivor being facecamped can't do anything. They have zero control of their character and have to just sit and wait until they're back to lobby."
You can press spacebar or whatever your key/button is so they do have some control.
"Also, kinda weird to mention things that have nothing to do with the subject. Facecamping is a Killer behavior that is unwarranted--and it only punishes everyone involved. None of the Survivors get any bloodpoints to speak of due to lack of interaction with the Killer,"
So is swfing. It's a player behaviour, it punishes killers, and restricts their abilty to get points.
"It is 99% of the time a spiteful interaction and serves no purpose except to waste everyone's' time."
So is standing at the gates or hatch when you can leave.
"However, the things you mentioned are not spiteful in any way, shape or form. All of those things are part of normal gameplay"
Refer above. If you don't find toxic swf squads not spiteful, or detrimental to the game you need to change those rose coloured glasses.
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He probably means counterplay to getting camped. There is none, not for the person on hook or anyone coming to unhook them. Just get the best out of it by gen rushing.
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I just want to point out how much of an idiot you are as usual. Your first statement is wrong. Once you activate your chainsaw then hit a snowman with a survivor inside they do not go down Immediately. You have to continue the chase and hit them again. Like others have said maybe don't hide in a snowman when facing a Bubba if you think that's a problem. He is also loop able in the right conditions because of how easy it is to bang your chainsaw on the environment. If your getting facecamped your teammates should be doing gens. Veteran red ranks have no problem not dying to Bubba. Maybe you are just a bad at survivor.
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THE ONLY GOod BUG is a DEAD BUG
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Thank god you exist
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when will you learn sluzzy, we live in a society
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To be fair, the survivor didn’t start the game on the hook.
it’s really not comparable to 4 invulnerable survs…
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Yeah, maybe closer than that. But still… not close at all.
also the devs have said they want to address this kind of camping iirc
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How/? No seriously how, If a survivor is one one side of a pallet and your on the other you can't leave because he will hit you, and you can't stay because he can quickly break the pallet, so every interaction is this weird dance as you both move side to side as he charges his chainsaw to instant break the pallet still giving him the advantage. His movement speed while swinging more the makes up for his slowdown then charging, and the fact he moves 115 makes him viable for M1 chases. The only form of counter play that exists to counter him is window, that's it, and not only is that not a very safe option because some windows are safe, other are not because of the increased speed, but most leatherface players run bamboozle to simply shut down any loop. It's why most leatherface players are so bad, because they never learn how to mind game and rely on his busted mechanic. Of course none of this is even addressing his basement ability or even just his hook defence.
If you have never ran bamboozle on leatehrface, do it, and if you are going to say that you are still struggling, you simply do not understand him well enough.
Experienced leatherface player.
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nice.
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Too long sluzzy. You had me worried
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It depends on the situation and the tile. In your example we're talking about a T-L wall right. Those are definitely strong examples that counter him, to an extent. But that is the same for pretty much every killer, not exactly a leatherface counter. That's not the player that's the tile, and that is mainly RNG. Lets say it's just a simple wall with with a pallet in the middle. There is no mind game only brute force, in that instant the player either drops the pallet which he quickly breaks or the player saves the pallet and nowhere he runs is safe because leatherface will out speed him and only one hit he is down. Of course in a real match of DBD certain situations will cause leatherface to be extremely broken. For example those generators that appear in open spaces, you're dead, no question. unless you run extremely early. But shack won't work, as you said 2 L walls won't work, long walls won't work, the only situation that can counter him are main loops that counter most M1 killers, T-L walls and that's really it. Maybe if you remove bamboozle more loops become viable, but even then you have to remember unlike normal killers a single screw up as a survivor could mean if you go down once, that's it. It is near impossible to save.
As for your point about map pressure, that is a different issue to my actual point about him having no counter play. Yeah you can just gen rush more or less negating all of this, but that is the same for every killer and is a separate issue.
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What's your thoughts on nurse?
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"A wee bit op."
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