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I need to say this
Had a match as Bubba at Ormond against a 3man TTV swf, and a random.
I went in going okay, thus won't go well for me so chill, have fun, try for good mind games. That was my mindset.
Well, as predicted, gens flew. I mean flew. It was on of those 5 or 6 minute matches. However I did surprisingly well all things considered.
I mind gamed loops, and got hits. I downed with chainsaw when appropriate. I got more hooks than I thought I would have considering how fast it went.
In the end, I got 2k. Not bad for what I had to go with.
In the chat tho. They weren't mean but I was running NOED. They said NOED was lame. I kinda laughed considering 3 of them were running borrowed. One was running DS, 2 were running COH....
I mean... really tho? Your gonna complain about my 1 perk? To your how many second chance perks? I never understood that mentality.
As a survivor, when you go in knowing your geared up and notice in match 3 gens pop b4 the killer even gets 2 hooks don't you guys feel like the match is done at that point as well?
The sweat picks up. Why do you guys get mad about it? You feel and see that the game is flying by with hardly any chases so what exactly do you want?
Just do gens and go?
So why get mad at the end when things get crazy, and actually start turning? You get more points this way.
Why do so many survivors wanna blast out 5 gens and bounce in under 6 minutes? How is that fun?
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Registered to just say
RIGHT!?
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Cool you made an account.
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I hate noed and always will unless it gets changed, but I really can’t blame anybody for using it these days with coh existing.
Like, I’m still choosing not to use it because I think it’s lame (and I don’t equip coh either), but when I see someone else using it, I recognize that the overall state of killer right now is not great. And I won’t disagree with there being way too many 2nd chances for survivors.
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Killers aren't allowed a second chance perk, but survivors can have a hundred
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Truth be told, for the longest time I bought into the myth that NOED was an unfun clutch and training wheel perk and that you shouldn't use it im serious builds etc.
But after some pretty brutal encounters in the modern DH/BT/CoH/Bodyblocking meta, I don't feel that such reservations hold much water anymore. Hell, sometimes I forget that I got the perk equipped and get confused when a survivor just disappears... until I notice him writhing on the floor. Lol.
So I don't use NOED all the time, but I have it now sprinkled in liberally over my different killers and don't feel bad about it.
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Just remember more kids are home atm to complain about stuff they dont like due to holidays your bound to get more of this behavior during this time of year
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I did, it required me to become toxic AF. And... yeah im down.
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Survivors are such hypocrites when it comes to using strong perks or strategies. They'll call BBQ and camping OP and that they have no counters.
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Aight
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I think survivors can have a hundred second chance perks because they're supposed to have three chances by default. Just because killers like to exploit a weakness in game design doesn't mean these 'second chance' perks are a problem.
Dead Hard, you can maybe argue. But if you're still complaining about DS at this stage, you are the problem.
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if you see a killer with 0 kills before egc, he has noed 99% of times. This perk brings killers to play with people much much better than them. And then they come here crying because this game is not balanced. Worst designed perk in the entire game
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they dont play for the fun interactions. they play to give people a hard time.
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NOED is in a good state and its your gamble if you will rush out or do bones.
Doing bones buys killer time, rushing gens gives killer a second chance.
Nerfing noed is just supporting laziness of being a survivor
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I hate NOED and I think it doesn't help us killer mains at the long term, but getting mad because you equipped a perk is supreme entitlement.
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ΝOED: I lost the game before even started. Lazy mentality.
"Do bones bro"
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I have literally never seen anyone that said that BBQ or camping would not have counters?! (Maybe bubba camping, but if the bubba knows what he is doing and the hook is well positioned it is pretty much a lost case..)
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Not worst designed perk in the world but worst designed sbmm in the world if I don't get any hooks all game and then snowball with noed no way out into blood warden it's a legit playstyle but if I do this my mmr just shoots trough the roof after a couple of games cause all that counts are kills and that is stupid everything a play is doing should point to your mmr did you lost every chase with no downs did you just camped a hook all game well your mmr isn't rising buddy.
but did you had a full game aka you lost some chases you won some you got one or two kills you defendet the gens got trick a few time by survs with flashlite safes and all and come out with a 3k or a 2k then your mmr should rise a bit. Same goes for survs i sbmm where like this you would have people slowly but steady rising in mmr and they have a chance to actually get better at the same time and improve on there skills.
Atm you sbmm sucks I can have a few games where I get survs that are obviously new or just not that good and I go out of 5 or 6 games with a 4k or 3k and then sbmm thinks wow that guy is a God and I get 4k hour survs that are simply better then me but I get stuck there cause you get your one or two kills in that games sweating like hell wich is no fun but I need like 30 games where I let every one escape to lower my mmr again to a point I have fair games everyone can enjoy
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I always laugh at players using NOED. It signalizes "I know I am bad, but hey at least I can run a gamechanger and punish survivors for doing their objective pretty well, while I did really bad; without any requirements i have to achieve, and no downsides". NOED is the most bullshit perk that exists on killer side, aside from Insidious.
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I find most people who complain about NOED have a mistaken belief that once the gens are done they feel the game is actually over and they deserve to escape, so if they get downed in part due to NOED it wasn’t “fair”. NOED isn’t all that different from Haunted Grounds or Make Your Choice, though, it just gives its downs at the end of the match instead of the beginning. And the game is intentionally designed so that most matches end with some survivors living and some dying, which means the generators being done isn’t a sign of a “bad killer” but is really the norm, even when killers play well, assuming the survivors play equally well.
If NOED actually significantly increased overall kill rates in games it was in the devs would have nerfed it a long time ago. The fact they haven’t indicates there probably isn’t data indicating it’s as overpowered as some people think, and it’s definitely not the case either way that endgame downs are somehow less “fair” than early game downs.
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######### why is bbq op all it does is that it reveals auras for 4 seconds it's not like there are more better options for that?
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DS can still be a problem especially when you have people rushing hook just cause you decided to pick up the one holding ds and not someone else first.
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Because people don't like resistance. If you bring a perk that is "meta" and "powerful" people will complain and call you bad. Even if you're playing old Freddy with NOED, they'd still complain. Just toggle chat and move on imo.
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This happens a lot. People just hate NOED. I don't get mad at killers for using it, but I do believe some changes are needed to make it healthier for the game.
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Any perk that is only for information is weak to me, and impossible to be OP. You can't do a single thing with that information if you can't get the survivors.
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That's why I'm asking, I mean I know survivor main arguments now are just "let me win ######### you all " nowadays but I still have to ask why on earth is bbq considered op? Cause I agree with you especially since there are other perks that give more info and from what I remember I think there was at least one hex perk that showed auras and put survivors in the exposed state.
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Hex: Retribution and Hex: Undying show auras. @CyberDragoon656
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Honestly, if 3 gens pop up and the killer doesn't even have 2 hooks, then yes, there is a 150% chance the killer will have NOED. If gens fly by I try to do bones, as a solo Q it usually doesn't even work because teammates don't seem to care too much about helping with that, so someone will end up dying to NOED at the end anyway. But there's no one else to blame if you're not able to "predict" the NOED really.
I do dislike the way this perk works, not the perk itself, I would make some changes and I'd think it's fine. But some complaints are just too much, especially if it's an SWF group complaining.
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Strange I never get any hate for my Starstruck build even though I get it on the very first carry and subsequent ones. I guess it is because victory gets snatched from defeat in some cases but Noed gets defeated so often and survivors have so many tools to find and alter totems now. I rarely see killers get Noed value past one down.
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Survivors hate NOED but many of them probably wouldn't be able to live without Dead Hard
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