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Bloodpoints Killer vs Survivor

I see a lot of people saying that surviving should be "tough". I don't mind dying as long as I get a decent amount of points. Usually the killer gets the most points (unless they're brain dead) and that's fine and all cause they're in the game longer.

But sometimes even after escaping I feel like I'm barely getting anything even thought I feel like I was all over the place, and the only time I feel like I can get a decent amount of bloodpoints is if I use "we're gonna farm forever" with no other benefit other than getting extra points. Unlike BBQ which gives you more points AND shows you survivor auras when you hook someone.

If you get tunneled or camped that's barely any points, most of the time you die with 15k points while the killer has 25k - 30k and then BBQ on top.

Can't survivors get more points for little things? Cleansing totems, self healing or healing others etc?

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  • AntiJelly
    AntiJelly Member Posts: 1,155

    @TangledNoodles said:
    I see a lot of people saying that surviving should be "tough". I don't mind dying as long as I get a decent amount of points. Usually the killer gets the most points (unless they're brain dead) and that's fine and all cause they're in the game longer.

    But sometimes even after escaping I feel like I'm barely getting anything even thought I feel like I was all over the place, and the only time I feel like I can get a decent amount of bloodpoints is if I use "we're gonna farm forever" with no other benefit other than getting extra points. Unlike BBQ which gives you more points AND shows you survivor auras when you hook someone.

    If you get tunneled or camped that's barely any points, most of the time you die with 15k points while the killer has 25k - 30k and then BBQ on top.

    Can't survivors get more points for little things? Cleansing totems, self healing or healing others etc?

    Yeah, I can hardly break 18k-22k bloodpoints everytime I play survivor, yet make over 28k-32k bp all the time with killer.

  • AlwaysInAGoodShape
    AlwaysInAGoodShape Member Posts: 1,611

    The result of what you see is mainly caused by the defect categories; Objective, and Survival

    Fix:
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/39604/bloodpoint-categories-fix#latest

  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,384

    Cause survivors are fighting for their BP.
    Killer is just earning them

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @TangledNoodles said:
    I see a lot of people saying that surviving should be "tough". I don't mind dying as long as I get a decent amount of points. Usually the killer gets the most points (unless they're brain dead) and that's fine and all cause they're in the game longer.

    But sometimes even after escaping I feel like I'm barely getting anything even thought I feel like I was all over the place, and the only time I feel like I can get a decent amount of bloodpoints is if I use "we're gonna farm forever" with no other benefit other than getting extra points. Unlike BBQ which gives you more points AND shows you survivor auras when you hook someone.

    If you get tunneled or camped that's barely any points, most of the time you die with 15k points while the killer has 25k - 30k and then BBQ on top.

    Can't survivors get more points for little things? Cleansing totems, self healing or healing others etc?

    Killers are addon dependent, survivors not
    Killers lose addons every game, survivor keep items after escaping
    Survivors can obtain items ingame

  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775
    Killers seem to earn more because they are in the match the entire time, and usually run one of numerous blood point enhancement perks.

    It's entirely possible for a survivor to make just as much, and sometimes more than the killer.

    Then there's the fact killers have much higher maintenance costs.
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,093
    Killer gets more points because he's non stop interacting with others.
    If you only sit alone on a gen and never save others or hit with a pallet, you won't make any points (surprise)
  • TangledNoodles
    TangledNoodles Member Posts: 249

    @Rebel_Raven said:
    Killers seem to earn more because they are in the match the entire time, and usually run one of numerous blood point enhancement perks.

    It's entirely possible for a survivor to make just as much, and sometimes more than the killer.

    Then there's the fact killers have much higher maintenance costs.

    The survivor BP perks have no benefit like BBQ as I was saying in the op so it ends up being a waste of a perk slot unlike BBQ which has actual benefit when playing in addition to giving you more BPs.

  • TangledNoodles
    TangledNoodles Member Posts: 249

    @Master said:

    @TangledNoodles said:
    I see a lot of people saying that surviving should be "tough". I don't mind dying as long as I get a decent amount of points. Usually the killer gets the most points (unless they're brain dead) and that's fine and all cause they're in the game longer.

    But sometimes even after escaping I feel like I'm barely getting anything even thought I feel like I was all over the place, and the only time I feel like I can get a decent amount of bloodpoints is if I use "we're gonna farm forever" with no other benefit other than getting extra points. Unlike BBQ which gives you more points AND shows you survivor auras when you hook someone.

    If you get tunneled or camped that's barely any points, most of the time you die with 15k points while the killer has 25k - 30k and then BBQ on top.

    Can't survivors get more points for little things? Cleansing totems, self healing or healing others etc?

    Killers are addon dependent, survivors not
    Killers lose addons every game, survivor keep items after escaping
    Survivors can obtain items ingame

    Yeah but there's addons all over the bloodweb lol that makes no sense. When I see killer mains and their load out they're always stacked and usually have every add on already.

  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775

    @Rebel_Raven said:
    Killers seem to earn more because they are in the match the entire time, and usually run one of numerous blood point enhancement perks.

    It's entirely possible for a survivor to make just as much, and sometimes more than the killer.

    Then there's the fact killers have much higher maintenance costs.

    The survivor BP perks have no benefit like BBQ as I was saying in the op so it ends up being a waste of a perk slot unlike BBQ which has actual benefit when playing in addition to giving you more BPs.

    Not disagreeing. The survivor BP perks aren't my cup of tea.
    I forget which, leadership, or prove thyself will become a bp perk, though. 

    That doesn't change the fwct that survivors can make a ton of points, comparable to the killer. 

    They can also leave with what they entered with and it will be restored. 
    Also if they go in with nothing, they can walk out with a new item.
    Killers don't have that luxury, so they need more points.
  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    Sure, as long they will no longer keep the items after they escape, same as the killer whose addons get used up after the trial is over

  • TangledNoodles
    TangledNoodles Member Posts: 249

    @Rebel_Raven said:
    TangledNoodles said:

    @Rebel_Raven said:

    Killers seem to earn more because they are in the match the entire time, and usually run one of numerous blood point enhancement perks.

    It's entirely possible for a survivor to make just as much, and sometimes more than the killer.
    

    Then there's the fact killers have much higher maintenance costs.

    The survivor BP perks have no benefit like BBQ as I was saying in the op so it ends up being a waste of a perk slot unlike BBQ which has actual benefit when playing in addition to giving you more BPs.

    Not disagreeing. The survivor BP perks aren't my cup of tea.
    I forget which, leadership, or prove thyself will become a bp perk, though. 

    That doesn't change the fwct that survivors can make a ton of points, comparable to the killer. 

    They can also leave with what they entered with and it will be restored. 
    Also if they go in with nothing, they can walk out with a new item.
    Killers don't have that luxury, so they need more points.

    You can make a lot of points but only if you happen to have a really good game or the killer is trash. If your teammates are always going down or someone DCs (and ######### the whole team). It's very situational while the killer gets points based on their own skill (not always). It would be nice if it didn't take 2-3 games to complete one lvl 50 bloodweb lol.

  • TangledNoodles
    TangledNoodles Member Posts: 249

    @HellDescent said:
    Sure, as long they will no longer keep the items after they escape, same as the killer whose addons get used up after the trial is over

    Except our items have add ons attached to them so that's 3 items to spend bloodpoints on in comparison to 2 killer add ons that are found all over the bloodweb.

  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775
    edited January 2019

    @HellDescent said:
    Sure, as long they will no longer keep the items after they escape, same as the killer whose addons get used up after the trial is over

    Except our items have add ons attached to them so that's 3 items to spend bloodpoints on in comparison to 2 killer add ons that are found all over the bloodweb.

    Yours are found all over the blood web, too, and if you leave with the item, you keep the addons. Killers have to constantly replenish.

    Heck, you run ace in the hole, you can get some better stuff, and addons than usualnoutnof chests. Free stuff, right there.

    Ifnyour teammates are trash, then you are into the next game faster. Killers have to stay the entire trial.
  • TangledNoodles
    TangledNoodles Member Posts: 249
    edited January 2019

    Sigh

  • TangledNoodles
    TangledNoodles Member Posts: 249

    @Rebel_Raven said:
    TangledNoodles said:

    @HellDescent said:

    Sure, as long they will no longer keep the items after they escape, same as the killer whose addons get used up after the trial is over

    Except our items have add ons attached to them so that's 3 items to spend bloodpoints on in comparison to 2 killer add ons that are found all over the bloodweb.

    Yours are found all over the blood web, too, and if you leave with the item, you keep the addons. Killers have to constantly replenish.

    Heck, you run ace in the hole, you can get some better stuff, and addons than usualnoutnof chests. Free stuff, right there.

    Ifnyour teammates are trash, then you are into the next game faster. Killers have to stay the entire trial.

    But the whole point is to get more points without have to waste perk slots on ######### perks lol.
    I'm only asking to get more points for little things like maybe;
    recovering on the ground
    struggling on the killer's shoulder
    cleansing totems, it adds up.

    If we're gonna live forever had some other type of benefit I'd actually use it more often. Killers get 25k on average that's not including offering and then the % from BBQ (which 95% of the killers have) and sometimes a free BPS from the survivors.
    I've leveled up most killers to 50 and I've had a much easier time than leveling my survivors and Add ons were not a problem.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @TangledNoodles said:

    @Master said:

    @TangledNoodles said:
    I see a lot of people saying that surviving should be "tough". I don't mind dying as long as I get a decent amount of points. Usually the killer gets the most points (unless they're brain dead) and that's fine and all cause they're in the game longer.

    But sometimes even after escaping I feel like I'm barely getting anything even thought I feel like I was all over the place, and the only time I feel like I can get a decent amount of bloodpoints is if I use "we're gonna farm forever" with no other benefit other than getting extra points. Unlike BBQ which gives you more points AND shows you survivor auras when you hook someone.

    If you get tunneled or camped that's barely any points, most of the time you die with 15k points while the killer has 25k - 30k and then BBQ on top.

    Can't survivors get more points for little things? Cleansing totems, self healing or healing others etc?

    Killers are addon dependent, survivors not
    Killers lose addons every game, survivor keep items after escaping
    Survivors can obtain items ingame

    Yeah but there's addons all over the bloodweb lol that makes no sense. When I see killer mains and their load out they're always stacked and usually have every add on already.

    Yes and you need to invest BP in order to get those addons, guess why killers get more BP than survivors

  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775
    edited January 2019

    @Rebel_Raven said:
    TangledNoodles said:

    @HellDescent said:

    Sure, as long they will no longer keep the items after they escape, same as the killer whose addons get used up after the trial is over

    Except our items have add ons attached to them so that's 3 items to spend bloodpoints on in comparison to 2 killer add ons that are found all over the bloodweb.

    Yours are found all over the blood web, too, and if you leave with the item, you keep the addons. Killers have to constantly replenish.

    Heck, you run ace in the hole, you can get some better stuff, and addons than usualnoutnof chests. Free stuff, right there.

    Ifnyour teammates are trash, then you are into the next game faster. Killers have to stay the entire trial.

    But the whole point is to get more points without have to waste perk slots on ######### perks lol.
    I'm only asking to get more points for little things like maybe;
    recovering on the ground
    struggling on the killer's shoulder
    cleansing totems, it adds up.

    If we're gonna live forever had some other type of benefit I'd actually use it more often. Killers get 25k on average that's not including offering and then the % from BBQ (which 95% of the killers have) and sometimes a free BPS from the survivors.
    I've leveled up most killers to 50 and I've had a much easier time than leveling my survivors and Add ons were not a problem.

    Believe me, more blood points is something I can get behind.
    The issue is how people get more blood points.

    I don't have bbq. I won't buy leatherface. Don't like the killer, and don't want to get his rituals.
    If I want extra BP there's perks I can run, but lol they're not great either.
    Distressing, thrill of the hunt, and beast of prey. Yay.

    Killers get more on average because they are always in the trial, and they have to put up with survivors who could potentially pull bullshit.

    Survivors surviving and doing stuff get good bp, too.

    And my supplies are sparse, too.