Lightborn is a valid perk

Here's the thing using Lightborn dosnt mean a Killer dosnt have Skills or is new to the game just like the constant whining about NOED because thier precious Boons have made them not break totems allowing NOED to spawn. Yes alot of new Killers use both Perks to supplement thier lack of Skills but others who use them have the Skills and want that surprise factor.

It's like Clown with Pinky Finger and Confetti Bottle......oh Hahaha you hit me with Confetti Hahahah *gets downed in one hit* Lame Arse Clown you dont have skills because you used Pinky Finger addon.....

Or Spirit using Dried Cherry Blossom and Mother Daughter Ring.....again Survivors will whine and say the Killer has no Skills because they used that combo......just because a Killer uses a perk or addon or uses a Killer like Bubba dosnt mean they dont have the experience and skills to knock down hook and win.

Survivors who fo this are trying to mind game everyone into thinking it thier way so no one uses those things anymore....I say SCREW THEM and play how you want with what you want......as long as you dont become a Toxic Tunnler or Bubba Face Camper.......now if it's done to a Dwight or Ace......go right ahead because those two survivors dont deserve to be in the Entities game and need to die......SLOW AND PAINFULLY!

I already said it, locker blind is an exploit since a killer can't do anything about it... but the "oh, but they're going to run out of charges" comment is still out there.

For reference, Tru3ta1ent had a game his week where a swf was doing exactly what the original poster described. Basically they jump into a locker midchase and a partner is on the second floor waiting for the locker grab. The instant Tru opens the locker the person drops down and gets a 100% guaranteed blind save. If Tru instead ignores the locker and goes upstairs they just loop around and jump in the locker again. All four of them are at the building so the game isn’t progressing while this happens.

And Scott posted a video on Lightborn in response to this thread

Scott’s main point above is that Lightborn is detrimental to the killer because the moment the survivors realize they can’t blind you it forces them to just do gens which is a more time efficient playstyle than going for blinds in the first place. I definitely agree with him overall here, generally speaking if survivors are trying to blind you they’re playing sub-optimally so as a killer I’m typically happy when I see them do that.

There are a couple of minor technical points worth noting though that he skipped over

• He only mentions flashlights, but keep in mind Lightborn also protects against Flash Grenades and Blast Mines, both of which are annoying in their own way. Again, I don’t think either grenades or mines really does much other than lose you a few seconds here and there, it’s rare for a grenade or blast mine to actually save anybody. But they’re also harder to avoid than flashlights (aside from flashlight blinds at pallets and maybe lockers) and it can get a little annoying if you kick a generator multiple times and get blinded by Blast Mines each time and have to rekick them. I admit that I’ve considered running Lightborn sometimes just because I get tired of being punked by Blast Mines. Again, this is more a quality of life benefit, not a strategic one.
• While Lightborn does encourage survivors to play smarter, prior to that happening it does often result in a free hit or down or two assuming someone is trying to blind you. It can even potentially save a hook that you could have possibly lost against a really well timer blind. And it does save you small amounts of time occasionally picking someone up since you don’t have to worry about a blind at all. I don’t really think a potential extra hook is probably worth the survivors being enticed to play more efficiently on gens, but it’s significant enough to at least keep in mind when evaluating the perk.
• Personally I sometimes run Lightborn as an all in gimmick build with Brutal Strength and a combination of Agitation or Fire Up or Enduring. It’s basically a free hit or down after a pallet drop or during a carry if they try and blind you. Again, absolutely not a great build, it’s just funny catching flashlighters offguard with it. 🙂

It’s not that the flashlight on a locker grab is an exploit, it’s a combination play involving a specific locker on Dead Dawg in conjunction with a full team on comms. If the entire team is at the saloon and ducking into that one locker then they can indefinitely stall the game. If the killer tries to grab from the locker the upper floor survivor drops down for a 100% guaranteed save. If the killer tries to chase a different survivor they just loop back to that same locker. Since no survivors are doing gens and the killer can’t hit or down them it can go on as long as the survivors want barring them screwing up the timing somehow.

Surprised they didn't DC.

I stopped watching Tru because I got tired of him complaining all the time. But to his credit he’s a very solid player, his win rate is quite high with every killer.

Fair enough, certainly not saying you need to like him or whatever. 🤷‍♂️ I’m just saying from my outside perspective I didn’t see where he personally attacked you, I think he just thought you were overestimating Lightborn’s value overall.

I agree, no reason you can’t run Lightborn if you like it.

Content creator Scott Jund disagreed with the OP and they didn't like that. I'd honestly advise you not to bother getting involved. Unless you have more animal pictures, of course.

Sure thing. I don’t know Scott either way and don’t really watch his videos, I just hear his takes sometimes and think about them since he’s a solid player and pretty analytical.

That I do!

So you think you can beat swf of this caliber with legion?

No need to announce it though as thats just rude