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Changed my mind: Deathslinger is still fun to play
I played many matches as Deathslinger over the past days and I still enjoy him. In fact, he is one of the top killers I pick the most these days.
However I still think that they should buff him in some way because that nerfs were really too hard on him. Either reverd / reduce some of the nerfs he got or buff him in some other way. I would like for example if the chain itself could last a bit more so you could play around some medium loops as well without need to use that very rare add-on.
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ok
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Can't kill the West.
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I thought the whole 'Change my mind' meta was over...
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read the title again
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ADS change was warranted
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I am legitimately glad for you that you still like him.
I am still going to ask for most of his nerfs to get reverted and not play him until they do.
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I’m still testing, but I have to admit my current feeling is the change was not as bad as I initially thought. I had to get used to the ADS timing. This last week of playing him has felt like normal DS gameplay.
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That’s a good one lol
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I've been playing him a bit more myself, and the backlash to his changes were definitely partly an overreaction.
I'm still not 100% sure what should be done to improve him from here, but I still support a few things. I think his terror radius should be reverted, and the difference made up with a lullaby radius instead, and maybe buff his movement speed up to 115% so he can actually loop better.
The changes he got were mostly... fine, but needed to come with more positive changes than he got. ADS movespeed and the stun reduction were a good call, though- he does feel nicer to play in those situations.
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His advantage over other ranged killers is that he doesn’t have a lullaby. This opens him up to many perks Trickster and Huntress shouldn’t use like Hysteria, M&A, Tinkerer. He even has at least two perks that give him undetectable or survivors oblivious.
The only middle ground I can think is reduce to 28, but I don’t see it happening.
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you probably won't live long enough to see that change heh
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you will all look like Adrian Toomes by the time they even think about reverting. There not Changing ######### slinger will stay like this
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Biased killer main confirmed.
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Revert his nerf in its entirety and I'll play him again. No reason to play what he is now.
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of course he is! if you know how to aim then why wouldn't he be
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His Cigar add on is so good and overlooked lol
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It wasn’t fair that you could get speared outside if his terror radius with no warning. He was a better stealth killer than actual stealth killers. Also what are the changes your going to miss. That’s no excuse no slinger will ever miss from those ranges unless. There new and can’t aim, suck at the game same as above, the survivors are just super aware of there surroundings
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I disagree, I think he is very clunky and weak which translates into very unfun for me, I use to main him too, him and Oni.
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It's basically an instadown. If death slinger ever needs to be looked at again, that addon needs to be toned down.
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I think his turning speed feels like moving through molasses, it’s irritatingly slow trying to change your aim. If they speed up his turning rate while aiming I’d like him more.
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He is clumsy, worse, less fun, less unique, more limited Huntress.
If you are masochist, then yeah you are going to enjoy him... Well, you have Twins profile picture, so you probably are a masochist, so it makes sense that you like him.
His ADS mechanic is just terrible, it wasn't an issue before, because quick-scope, so noone actually used ADS... Low turning speed, small FOV, it's terrible to use on close range and because of long ADS + travel time, it sucks to use on longer range too against survivors who are looking behind them.
Even a Trickster is more fun and better killer than Deathslinger, which is kinda funny to me... You know, Trickster!
Deathslinger had few things going for him, but they got removed. Only thing going for him left is STBFL and m1 perks, which is not that huge reason to play him imo.
I play FPS games a lot, so I played him 100% to do quick-scopes and he is just nothing without it.
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In my defense I was really tired.
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Biased survivor main confirmed
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I agree, I find him fun to play. I did not have a problem with the ads change since I think it is just muscle memory to learn and provides gameplay for both sides. I still think he needs some buffs since his overall changes were not entirely in his favor. A 24m terror radius, faster reload speed, and increased ads movement speed would help his gameplay style in my opinion. Oh, and please give him an add-on pass.
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Then how come I sacrificed 7,323 survivors and only escaped 809 times? I’m not a survivor main. I love how you assume because I call you out. I was just saying that but now your comment has further cemented my point on you. You are a biased killer main. You can’t admit it, you can’t admit some changes had to be done
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It solved the lose-lose scenario, made him complete garbage to play, didn’t fix his broken leg, gave him a 32 meter terror radius, and you think that’s warranted on a C tier killer.
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Yes. No ranged killer shouldn’t have been a better stealth killer than actual stealth killers. Being able to get shot at with no warning and no indication he’s nearby was not good design. Also making him 115% is just lazy that won’t fix his problems he would just be a boring M1 killer. Just because he’s a c tier killer did not excuse his unfun and godawful game design. It’s like legion he was bottom tier but he was the most unfun and badly designed killer. Slinger is not legion bad but his gameplay was awful to go against
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So just make him so bad that no one plays him? Unfun shouldnt mean nerf.
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Stop we need to stop the man is already nerfed into the dirt stop asking for nerfs for bad character's
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And now he's probably the worst char in the game tier wise so great job
Did you know he is the only 4.4 killer in the game with a 32 meter tr
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i won’t deny that he should have gotten buffs to compensate but nerfing something that’s unfun is justified look at pyramid head he had the same problem with zoning and faking his attack and they changed it and made him much better, spirit nerfed her 50/50 still the same killer.
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Not true at all. Slinger can still win games if you get used to the new aim. Trapper, clown, legion, Myers and pig are bad bottom tier killers. Slinger is no where near the bottom
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But you can still win as them can't you
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Play slinger and trapper both vs a good swf and your walking away with 0 kills regardless of how good you are if that doesn't mean that they're on the same level idk how else to explain it to you
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Yeah against low MMR survivors
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I'm so terrible at shooting that his ads nerf has only helped me be more accurate. Take that, society!
The nerfs have convinced me that lethality is the way to go with Slinger, so the fact Starstruck Slinger got stronger is A OK in my books.
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Your logic is flawed first of all no killer will ever beat a good SWF unless there blight nurse or spirit. How am I supposed to know if there SWF or not? What if I kill all 4 and they were a SWF what if I lost with a 0k and they weren’t on comms your logic makes no sense?! It’s obvious slinger will win cause trapper can’t real people in and start the game killing he needs to setup.
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Same with Slinger
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Nope
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Yep
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Tr1nty gets it
Go play slinger at high mmr and tell me how your matches go
Go on we're waiting
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MMR is invisible so there's no real way to know unless you specifically link up with a comp team. Even the best get crunched by average players once in a while.
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Even tho it's invisible you can typically tell what mmr your at based off how fast the gens go
If they don't go in around 4-6 mins your not in high mmr
Plus we know that mmr is calculated based on kills
Well I can tell you for a fact when I play hag I 3k-4k atleast 80-85% of my games and I've maybe played 200-350 games on her
If that's not enough to get high mmr then idk what type of system they got going on here
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Ok then I’ll hop on and record my matches. I’ll be right back
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No worries brother, I understand lmao
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I don't think he's fun or that there's any point to him now. His terror radius Nerf is fine. I agree you shouldn't be able to shoot outside your terror radius. But the clunkiness of his turning and aiming, and the fact that he still moves slower makes him not worth playing. The fun of him before was hitting those quick scopes. It was a 50/50, and you could lose an entire match by trying to do it too much. But it felt rewarding when you hit them. Now there's no such thing.
Now you have slow clunky shots that you have to reload after and are slowed during the reload. It's almost not worth even shooting with him now. Except the fact that you can't play him as an m1 killer either because of his slow movement. Huntress and trickster do everything better than him. And now that it doesn't provide rewarding gameplay, why would I pick him over some one who does everything better than him?
Huntress I move at the same speed, don't have to reload after every shot, gives far more map pressure, and can still hit outside of her terror radius/lullaby. And she feels more rewarding overall.
Gunslinger is just an overused aesthetic now that they tricked people into paying money for.
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Anyone who's saying they think slinger should be nerfed is either disingenuous or extremely ill formed in their data collation and perception.
However, yeah, he can still be fun. I have my Iron Grit Agitation build and it's pretty fun even if I lose.
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The terror radius and cooldown after canceling ADS change is fine.
It's the increased time it takes to shoot that is awful.It just makes him feel awkward and clunky to play.
I don't see a reason to play him anymore over other ranged killers like Trickster or Huntress tbh
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It's been a couple hours what's the matter bro did you ever record those games?
Not finding it as easy to win with him as you thought you would?
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