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Best Stream So Far

Raccoon
Raccoon Member Posts: 7,716

Literally addressed every current hot topic from the PTB to De-Ranking.

Good Job :D

Comments

  • not_Queen
    not_Queen Member Posts: 1,114

    Thanks! :)

  • Sandt21
    Sandt21 Member Posts: 761
    I’m a little bummed they didn’t do a brief QandA. I’m hoping one of these days, a single stream will be dedicated to a massive QandA with the fans. 
  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647
    Sandt21 said:
    I’m a little bummed they didn’t do a brief QandA. I’m hoping one of these days, a single stream will be dedicated to a massive QandA with the fans. 
    They've done full streams of Q&A... they've done like hour vids of them as well
  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,410

    Question, is there still a way to watch the video? And if yes, where?

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,716

    @not_Queen said:
    Thanks! :)

    No problem.

    I'm pretty vocal about the bad, but that doesn't mean I can't acknowledge the good.

    It's nice to see you all oozing effort....or Entity Juice....I dunno O_O

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,716
    edited January 2019

    @ad19970 said:
    Question, is there still a way to watch the video? And if yes, where?

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/361819958##

  • Jesya
    Jesya Member Posts: 1,101
    edited January 2019

    I hope you guys (DBD & all) listen to the other "podcast" with Monto, Bricky, King, TydeTyme & Geef to get both sides of the story.
    PS: it's on right now here:

  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    @Jesya said:
    I hope you guys (DBD & all) listen to the other "podcast" with Monto, Bricky, King, TydeTyme & Geef to get both sides of the story.

    Ugh, Tyde... I'll watch it for the others though. Big fan of them.

  • Jesya
    Jesya Member Posts: 1,101
    edited January 2019

    @Mc_Harty I know.. I know... but it is still interesting to listen to :) but he also makes some good points regardless how they are delivered.

  • ModernFable
    ModernFable Member Posts: 836
    It was informative about the PTB which was nice, but not much else.

    Still a lot of stuff that’s been delayed or scheduled to release in 2019 that weren’t addressed, like the Freddy and Decisive Strike Rework.

    I wish there was more answers in regards to stuff that should be coming soon.
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Raccoon said:
    Literally addressed every current hot topic from the PTB to De-Ranking.

    Good Job :D

    Well deranking wasnt rlly adressed to be fair.

    Also freddy is still crying in the corner......

  • MojoTheFabulous
    MojoTheFabulous Member Posts: 2,015

    @Sandt21 said:
    I’m a little bummed they didn’t do a brief QandA. I’m hoping one of these days, a single stream will be dedicated to a massive QandA with the fans. 

    They've done a fair few Q&A videos for YouTube and they have been pretty interesting for the most part. Would be nice if they were more frequent though.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @MojoTheFabulous said:

    @Sandt21 said:
    I’m a little bummed they didn’t do a brief QandA. I’m hoping one of these days, a single stream will be dedicated to a massive QandA with the fans. 

    They've done a fair few Q&A videos for YouTube and they have been pretty interesting for the most part. Would be nice if they were more frequent though.

    When they were more frequent, people were complaining that the devs were answering "irrelevant questions" and "wasting time". When the devs skipped irrelevant questions, people were complaining that they were skipping "questions they don't want to answer". Now that Q&A streams/videos are few and far between and balance, etc., streams/videos are more plentiful, we get complaints like yours, that they don't do enough Q&A.

    It's catch-22, plain and simple.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,716

    There's a stream now about her now, and man, it is cringy.

  • SK92
    SK92 Member Posts: 18
    Yet they're still ignoring the most relevant questions like DS, Legion and list goes on...
    Most of the last stream been discussed here and there .. it was just boring to hear again
    But still thanks devs
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @SK92 said:
    Yet they're still ignoring the most relevant questions like DS, Legion and list goes on...
    Most of the last stream been discussed here and there .. it was just boring to hear again
    But still thanks devs

    See what I mean, @MojoTheFabulous?

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    @Orion said:

    When they were more frequent, people were complaining that the devs were answering "irrelevant questions" and "wasting time". When the devs skipped irrelevant questions, people were complaining that they were skipping "questions they don't want to answer". Now that Q&A streams/videos are few and far between and balance, etc., streams/videos are more plentiful, we get complaints like yours, that they don't do enough Q&A.

    It's catch-22, plain and simple.

    Yeah this community is hard to please and I feel like the Devs are becoming more and more hesitant to do things because whenever they do something, people lose their ######### and this harms the development of the game more than anything. The community needs to give up this over critical attitude.

  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,410

    @Raccoon said:

    @ad19970 said:
    Question, is there still a way to watch the video? And if yes, where?

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/361819958##

    Ok thanks a lot.

  • BadMrFrosty
    BadMrFrosty Member Posts: 1,100

    @Orion said:

    @Delfador said:

    @Orion said:

    When they were more frequent, people were complaining that the devs were answering "irrelevant questions" and "wasting time". When the devs skipped irrelevant questions, people were complaining that they were skipping "questions they don't want to answer". Now that Q&A streams/videos are few and far between and balance, etc., streams/videos are more plentiful, we get complaints like yours, that they don't do enough Q&A.

    It's catch-22, plain and simple.

    Yeah this community is hard to please and I feel like the Devs are becoming more and more hesitant to do things because whenever they do something, people lose their ######### and this harms the development of the game more than anything. The community needs to give up this over critical attitude.

    Customers in general need to stop being so entitled. These streams are not necessary. They don't have to answer questions. They could just as easily put out a written statement once every couple of weeks, or once a month, like most game developers do. They take their time to give us these streams, to interact with us directly, and (mostly) get abuse for it.

    I gave BVHR money for a product that I expect to come with minimal frustration and be functional more often than not. If there's a serious issue that in some way makes the product unsatisfactory, I have the reasonable expectation of them to fix it so that it doesn't impact my enjoyment of the product I paid for. Paid. For.

    I didn't get this game nor any of its bonus content for free, so to act like paying customers are entitled because they expect fixes for very real issues (long lobby times, imbalance, etc) is asinine.

  • Markness
    Markness Member Posts: 242

    @Orion said:

    @Delfador said:

    @Orion said:

    When they were more frequent, people were complaining that the devs were answering "irrelevant questions" and "wasting time". When the devs skipped irrelevant questions, people were complaining that they were skipping "questions they don't want to answer". Now that Q&A streams/videos are few and far between and balance, etc., streams/videos are more plentiful, we get complaints like yours, that they don't do enough Q&A.

    It's catch-22, plain and simple.

    Yeah this community is hard to please and I feel like the Devs are becoming more and more hesitant to do things because whenever they do something, people lose their ######### and this harms the development of the game more than anything. The community needs to give up this over critical attitude.

    Customers in general need to stop being so entitled. These streams are not necessary. They don't have to answer questions. They could just as easily put out a written statement once every couple of weeks, or once a month, like most game developers do. They take their time to give us these streams, to interact with us directly, and (mostly) get abuse for it.

    People need to stop brown nosing for companies expecting to receive some sort of e-pat on the back. DS has been cancer incarnate to this game and they don't DARE nerf it. Meanwhile machine gun was obliterated so fast and anytime a killer is remotely strong or has a strong perk they obliterate it without hesitation. People have the right to complain as most people care about things that are going to make their gameplay better. I have noticed they have reduced pallets on some maps but it's simply a bandaid fix to a much larger issue which is map balance.

    They need to have bugs fixed before releasing new content.

    They need to completely rework maps and stop making buildings with double-windows that can be looped.

    They need to completely rework all of the old maps that have a bunch of areas that are massive time-wasters, like hay bails that cannot be mind-gamed and 4 jungle gyms+killer shacks in a map.

    They need to nerf DS.

    They need to fix legion.

    They need to fix freddy

    Until then expect people to be salty. It is like I have a broken leg and they bring me medication that is useful for treating a cold. It is "helpful", but is completely avoiding the major issue(s).

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Markness said:

    @Orion said:

    @Delfador said:

    @Orion said:

    When they were more frequent, people were complaining that the devs were answering "irrelevant questions" and "wasting time". When the devs skipped irrelevant questions, people were complaining that they were skipping "questions they don't want to answer". Now that Q&A streams/videos are few and far between and balance, etc., streams/videos are more plentiful, we get complaints like yours, that they don't do enough Q&A.

    It's catch-22, plain and simple.

    Yeah this community is hard to please and I feel like the Devs are becoming more and more hesitant to do things because whenever they do something, people lose their ######### and this harms the development of the game more than anything. The community needs to give up this over critical attitude.

    Customers in general need to stop being so entitled. These streams are not necessary. They don't have to answer questions. They could just as easily put out a written statement once every couple of weeks, or once a month, like most game developers do. They take their time to give us these streams, to interact with us directly, and (mostly) get abuse for it.

    People need to stop brown nosing for companies expecting to receive some sort of e-pat on the back. DS has been cancer incarnate to this game and they don't DARE nerf it. Meanwhile machine gun was obliterated so fast and anytime a killer is remotely strong or has a strong perk they obliterate it without hesitation. People have the right to complain as most people care about things that are going to make their gameplay better. I have noticed they have reduced pallets on some maps but it's simply a bandaid fix to a much larger issue which is map balance.

    They need to have bugs fixed before releasing new content.

    They need to completely rework maps and stop making buildings with double-windows that can be looped.

    They need to completely rework all of the old maps that have a bunch of areas that are massive time-wasters, like hay bails that cannot be mind-gamed and 4 jungle gyms+killer shacks in a map.

    They need to nerf DS.

    They need to fix legion.

    They need to fix freddy

    Until then expect people to be salty. It is like I have a broken leg and they bring me medication that is useful for treating a cold. It is "helpful", but is completely avoiding the major issue(s).

    Did I say customers shouldn't complain, ever? No, I did not, so maybe read and reply to what's actually being said, instead of making ######### up.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @BadMrFrosty said:

    @Orion said:

    @Delfador said:

    @Orion said:

    When they were more frequent, people were complaining that the devs were answering "irrelevant questions" and "wasting time". When the devs skipped irrelevant questions, people were complaining that they were skipping "questions they don't want to answer". Now that Q&A streams/videos are few and far between and balance, etc., streams/videos are more plentiful, we get complaints like yours, that they don't do enough Q&A.

    It's catch-22, plain and simple.

    Yeah this community is hard to please and I feel like the Devs are becoming more and more hesitant to do things because whenever they do something, people lose their ######### and this harms the development of the game more than anything. The community needs to give up this over critical attitude.

    Customers in general need to stop being so entitled. These streams are not necessary. They don't have to answer questions. They could just as easily put out a written statement once every couple of weeks, or once a month, like most game developers do. They take their time to give us these streams, to interact with us directly, and (mostly) get abuse for it.

    I gave BVHR money for a product that I expect to come with minimal frustration and be functional more often than not. If there's a serious issue that in some way makes the product unsatisfactory, I have the reasonable expectation of them to fix it so that it doesn't impact my enjoyment of the product I paid for. Paid. For.

    I didn't get this game nor any of its bonus content for free, so to act like paying customers are entitled because they expect fixes for very real issues (long lobby times, imbalance, etc) is asinine.

    Did I say customers shouldn't complain, ever? No, I did not, so maybe read and reply to what's actually being said, instead of making ######### up.

  • MojoTheFabulous
    MojoTheFabulous Member Posts: 2,015

    @Orion said:

    @MojoTheFabulous said:

    @Sandt21 said:
    I’m a little bummed they didn’t do a brief QandA. I’m hoping one of these days, a single stream will be dedicated to a massive QandA with the fans. 

    They've done a fair few Q&A videos for YouTube and they have been pretty interesting for the most part. Would be nice if they were more frequent though.

    When they were more frequent, people were complaining that the devs were answering "irrelevant questions" and "wasting time". When the devs skipped irrelevant questions, people were complaining that they were skipping "questions they don't want to answer". Now that Q&A streams/videos are few and far between and balance, etc., streams/videos are more plentiful, we get complaints like yours, that they don't do enough Q&A.

    It's catch-22, plain and simple.

    I was only talking about the YouTube videos. The complaints they were getting were for the Q&A portions of the stream because they'd go over #########, pointless questions. Usually about lore. Then the actual good questions they rarely had decent answers too because they never prepared. The YouTube videos have been great because, for the most part, they are prepared and address decent questions.

  • SK92
    SK92 Member Posts: 18
    Orion said:

    @Markness said:

    @Orion said:

    @Delfador said:

    @Orion said:

    When they were more frequent, people were complaining that the devs were answering "irrelevant questions" and "wasting time". When the devs skipped irrelevant questions, people were complaining that they were skipping "questions they don't want to answer". Now that Q&A streams/videos are few and far between and balance, etc., streams/videos are more plentiful, we get complaints like yours, that they don't do enough Q&A.

    It's catch-22, plain and simple.

    Yeah this community is hard to please and I feel like the Devs are becoming more and more hesitant to do things because whenever they do something, people lose their ######### and this harms the development of the game more than anything. The community needs to give up this over critical attitude.

    Customers in general need to stop being so entitled. These streams are not necessary. They don't have to answer questions. They could just as easily put out a written statement once every couple of weeks, or once a month, like most game developers do. They take their time to give us these streams, to interact with us directly, and (mostly) get abuse for it.

    People need to stop brown nosing for companies expecting to receive some sort of e-pat on the back. DS has been cancer incarnate to this game and they don't DARE nerf it. Meanwhile machine gun was obliterated so fast and anytime a killer is remotely strong or has a strong perk they obliterate it without hesitation. People have the right to complain as most people care about things that are going to make their gameplay better. I have noticed they have reduced pallets on some maps but it's simply a bandaid fix to a much larger issue which is map balance.

    They need to have bugs fixed before releasing new content.

    They need to completely rework maps and stop making buildings with double-windows that can be looped.

    They need to completely rework all of the old maps that have a bunch of areas that are massive time-wasters, like hay bails that cannot be mind-gamed and 4 jungle gyms+killer shacks in a map.

    They need to nerf DS.

    They need to fix legion.

    They need to fix freddy

    Until then expect people to be salty. It is like I have a broken leg and they bring me medication that is useful for treating a cold. It is "helpful", but is completely avoiding the major issue(s).

    Did I say customers shouldn't complain, ever? No, I did not, so maybe read and reply to what's actually being said, instead of making ######### up.

    And what is being said is like someone getting paid to defend and excuse them
    Every experienced player can admit those are broken things in the game
    Every other game developers don't need to answer anything coz they fix broken mechanics asap and meta is always getting nerfed for purpose of fun & creativity
    You can't ignore everything and let go unless you spend time in the forums more than actually play the game haha
  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,716
    Angry Diatribe Man has appeared. 

    Angry Diatribe Man has dropped nothing of value. 
  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,804
    They will give us updates on stuff like Freddy and the DS rework when they have something concrete to talk about.

    I also thought it was a great stream.
  • Eninya
    Eninya Member Posts: 1,256

    Did they say anything about reworking the Hex system, or the interactions Hexes have on the current meta and progression of matches?

    I ask about Third Seal becoming a different perk, but they always manage to answer a different question about it.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,716
    The only change to hexes will be totem placements apparently getting "better."
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @SK92 said:
    And what is being said is like someone getting paid to defend and excuse them
    Every experienced player can admit those are broken things in the game
    Every other game developers don't need to answer anything coz they fix broken mechanics asap and meta is always getting nerfed for purpose of fun & creativity
    You can't ignore everything and let go unless you spend time in the forums more than actually play the game haha

    What's being said is that players shouldn't complain about the streams, which is something that the devs go out of their way to do. Go back and actually read my comment before you reply again.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,716
    edited January 2019
    Why read when you can be a contrarian for its own sake?