When will they give the killers the option to end the game?
So, you know. Give a give up button for killers. If the killer gives up, All remaining survivors will be treated as if they have escaped (i.e. get escape BP). Also give safety pip for all remaining survivors AND the killers (so they can't use this option to de-pip; while killer can use this to prevent ranking down, I'm sure the concern of good killers ranking down outweigh the concern of bad killers staying in high rank).
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I do not think they should be able to give up when ever they want, this will be abused. It should give the option a certain amount of time after gates open though.
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As long as we can stop those survivors that hang around after gate open for no reason, I'm fine with it.Dead_by_David said:I do not think they should be able to give up when ever they want, this will be abused. It should give the option a certain amount of time after gates open though.
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@Dead_by_David said:
I do not think they should be able to give up when ever they want, this will be abused. It should give the option a certain amount of time after gates open though.Explain to me why Killers shouldn't have the power to give up whenever they want and how this would be abused.
You don't even know any specific detail about a possible solution, yet already make claims about it?
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@PiiFree said:
@Dead_by_David said:
I do not think they should be able to give up when ever they want, this will be abused. It should give the option a certain amount of time after gates open though.Explain to me why Killers shouldn't have the power to give up whenever they want and how this would be abused.
You don't even know any specific detail about a possible solution, yet already make claims about it?
It is not a claim, it is an opinion. It would just mean people could quit as soon as they find something they dislike, which would make it more annoying for the people who just want to play the game.
Yes survivors have this ability but survivors should not have this ability, no one should and if you give it to everyone the game is just going to be more and more about just quiting when you get caught/start losing which is toxic behaviour all the same.
@Milord This is what everyone wants!
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@Dead_by_David said:
@PiiFree said:
@Dead_by_David said:
I do not think they should be able to give up when ever they want, this will be abused. It should give the option a certain amount of time after gates open though.Explain to me why Killers shouldn't have the power to give up whenever they want and how this would be abused.
You don't even know any specific detail about a possible solution, yet already make claims about it?
It is not a claim, it is an opinion. It would just mean people could quit as soon as they find something they dislike, which would make it more annoying for the people who just want to play the game.
Yes survivors have this ability but survivors should not have this ability, no one should and if you give it to everyone the game is just going to be more and more about just quiting when you get caught/start losing which is toxic behaviour all the same.
@Milord This is what everyone wants!
You don't know if it will be abused or not, yet you claimed that it WILL be abused.
Survivors already have this option so I see no reason why Killers shouldn't have the possibility to end the game if they wish to do so.
Your argument is that it would make it annoying for the other players - but have you ever thought that the Killer might want to disconnect because the other players make it annoying for them in first place? Being forced to go through a game that is simply frustrating - that's annoying. Especially since many survivors like to hold the game hostage until you effectively force them out.
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But ther is such a buton esc leave the match.1
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@PiiFree said:
@Dead_by_David said:
@PiiFree said:
@Dead_by_David said:
I do not think they should be able to give up when ever they want, this will be abused. It should give the option a certain amount of time after gates open though.Explain to me why Killers shouldn't have the power to give up whenever they want and how this would be abused.
You don't even know any specific detail about a possible solution, yet already make claims about it?
It is not a claim, it is an opinion. It would just mean people could quit as soon as they find something they dislike, which would make it more annoying for the people who just want to play the game.
Yes survivors have this ability but survivors should not have this ability, no one should and if you give it to everyone the game is just going to be more and more about just quiting when you get caught/start losing which is toxic behaviour all the same.
@Milord This is what everyone wants!
You don't know if it will be abused or not, yet you claimed that it WILL be abused.
Survivors already have this option so I see no reason why Killers shouldn't have the possibility to end the game if they wish to do so.
Your argument is that it would make it annoying for the other players - but have you ever thought that the Killer might want to disconnect because the other players make it annoying for them in first place? Being forced to go through a game that is simply frustrating - that's annoying. Especially since many survivors like to hold the game hostage until you effectively force them out.
I fully understand how this annoys killers, it is a constant thing that survivors will not leave when the game is finished and the hatch is ridiculous. That is why I think it should be an option after the gate is open or the hatch has been opened.
People do things that annoy me and make the game less enjoyable all the time whether I am a killer or a survivor. Camping is boring and going up against a toxic SWF group is even more so but I do not want to quit because that just makes the game a waste of time. If the game is held hostage at the end then I 110% believe that you should be able to finish it but otherwise you might as well make disconnecting not bannable because that is what it would be.
I do not believe that killing yourself on a hook should be a thing either but I do not know how they would fix that without giving either side the advantage.
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@Dead_by_David said:
I do not believe that killing yourself on a hook should be a thing either but I do not know how they would fix that without giving either side the advantage....but it is a thing and will always be, which is exactly why "giving up" as Killer should also be a thing.
The goal is to win the match and if your opponent gives up, you achieved that. There is no reason to prolong the match if one side is willing to take the loss other than "but the winning team wants to make some fun out of the loser!".
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There is a way out for cowards, it is called "Disconect"Post edited by RoKrueger on2
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@Larcz said:
But ther is such a buton esc leave the match.And by doing that you forfeit all your points and hard work.
When the match is over and survivors just wanna fool around being toxic and waste everyone's time, letting the killer commit defeat and leave with what he acquired up to that point would be a good thing.
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That is fair enough that you want the option to give up, I understand that it can be frustrating when you are losing and the opposite side gets cocky and this can be much worse for killer as they do not have the option to leave.
I am not against killers or survivors and not trying to pick sides. in this situation I am against people who quit because it is to hard instead of just playing the game or people who quit because they get hooked or found first or get hit with a flashlight or pallet.
As I have repeatedly said I believe this option should be available in the end game because it is the end game and it should end but a lot of people refuse to end it and bully the killer and it is not fair that they have control.
In all the time I have been playing it is so much rarer for killers to DC than survivor and I respect them for this but I do not want to sit waiting to find a lobby, wait in lobby because there is always someone who is not ready, sit through loading screen to join in, I go to play and bam! Killer quits because his totem has spawned on Claudettes boob!
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There is this new game where there is a countdown. DbyD could apply such countdown. Say... 30 seconds to leave the game after the doors are open if not in a chase. 60 seconds while in a chase.
This way, people wouldn’t be wasting the killer’s time and it would totally change how the hatch works in the game. I think enabling the hatch while the doors are open is bound to make the game last longer. The hatch should only open when doors are closed and only one survivor remains. If doors open, bye hatch.1 -
There should be a concede button after the gates are opened in the case of the Survivors that hold the game hostage after the match is essentially over.
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@Dead_by_David said:
I do not think they should be able to give up when ever they want, this will be abused. It should give the option a certain amount of time after gates open though.Abused in what way?
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@Master said:
@Dead_by_David said:
I do not think they should be able to give up when ever they want, this will be abused. It should give the option a certain amount of time after gates open though.Abused in what way?
I can see people quiting straight away if totems are found or they get a map they do not like and maybe just to annoy people. I am not saying everyone will do this and I do think that there should be an end game quit button once the doors are open as the end game is rubbish as a killer.
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@Dead_by_David said:
@Master said:
@Dead_by_David said:
I do not think they should be able to give up when ever they want, this will be abused. It should give the option a certain amount of time after gates open though.Abused in what way?
I can see people quiting straight away if totems are found or they get a map they do not like and maybe just to annoy people. I am not saying everyone will do this and I do think that there should be an end game quit button once the doors are open as the end game is rubbish as a killer.
People can already do that right now because DCing isnt punished properly, so thats not a reason against a concede option
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Just write this is only option for killer right now.Will be nice if gate are open and somone hold game hostage gate start close in time 60sec or 2min and killer got expose efect and ultimate aura reading for all surv.Now you got choice gtfo or die.se05239 said:@Larcz said:
But ther is such a buton esc leave the match.And by doing that you forfeit all your points and hard work.
When the match is over and survivors just wanna fool around being toxic and waste everyone's time, letting the killer commit defeat and leave with what he acquired up to that point would be a good thing.
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@Master said:
@Dead_by_David said:
@Master said:
@Dead_by_David said:
I do not think they should be able to give up when ever they want, this will be abused. It should give the option a certain amount of time after gates open though.Abused in what way?
I can see people quiting straight away if totems are found or they get a map they do not like and maybe just to annoy people. I am not saying everyone will do this and I do think that there should be an end game quit button once the doors are open as the end game is rubbish as a killer.
People can already do that right now because DCing isnt punished properly, so thats not a reason against a concede option
Very true but they should enforce the disconnecting bans, not make it OK to do. This would make me just want to play killer if I kept waiting for matches that end straight away.
If it is what the majority of killers want then maybe they should have it. I just want to play the game and all of the quiters make it unfun. (on both sides, as I said survivors are wores for it).
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@Dead_by_David said:
Very true but they should enforce the disconnecting bans, not make it OK to do. This would make me just want to play killer if I kept waiting for matches that end straight away.If it is what the majority of killers want then maybe they should have it. I just want to play the game and all of the quiters make it unfun. (on both sides, as I said survivors are wores for it).
Killers already have a high tolerance when it comes to annoyances and frustration, it happens very rarely that a Killer gives up and blatantly disconnects. They rather afk in a corner or in the basement to admit defeat but still give Survivors their "deserved" victory points. Sad thing? That's exactly when Killers get abused and held hostage which leads to DCs instead of a "fair" defeat.
Survivors on the other hand disconnect left and right for ridiculous reasons with no shame. The last 51 matches I kept track of DCs, a total of 19!!! matches included DCs. And then they wonder why escape rates are relatively low, no wonder when ~40% of the matches are rigged.
I can asure you that even if there was a "Give up" option, Killers would only use it if they really don't see any way to turn the match.
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@PiiFree said:
@Dead_by_David said:
Very true but they should enforce the disconnecting bans, not make it OK to do. This would make me just want to play killer if I kept waiting for matches that end straight away.If it is what the majority of killers want then maybe they should have it. I just want to play the game and all of the quiters make it unfun. (on both sides, as I said survivors are wores for it).
Killers already have a high tolerance when it comes to annoyances and frustration, it happens very rarely that a Killer gives up and blatantly disconnects. They rather afk in a corner or in the basement to admit defeat but still give Survivors their "deserved" victory points. Sad thing? That's exactly when Killers get abused and held hostage which leads to DCs instead of a "fair" defeat.
Survivors on the other hand disconnect left and right for ridiculous reasons with no shame. The last 51 matches I kept track of DCs, a total of 19!!! matches included DCs. And then they wonder why escape rates are relatively low, no wonder when ~40% of the matches are rigged.
I can asure you that even if there was a "Give up" option, Killers would only use it if they really don't see any way to turn the match.
I respect you a lot for this but at the same time not everyone is you. I have found a lot of killers to be friendly (a bit odd for killer xD) but there are trolls that play killer as well. Some killers may not DC because they are afraid to be punished and now they will (I mean for no reason)
I do have respect for people that battle the bullying, I hate bullying. I just do not want to be disconnected all the time when there is no problem.
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@Dead_by_David said:
I do have respect for people that battle the bullying, I hate bullying. I just do not want to be disconnected all the time when there is no problem.No one is going to give up when there is no problem
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I was hoping it would be in the ptb, but it's not.
No telling when it will be.
Gate campers, and survivors taking the game hostage need to be booted out.1 -
@PiiFree said:
@Dead_by_David said:
I do have respect for people that battle the bullying, I hate bullying. I just do not want to be disconnected all the time when there is no problem.No one is going to give up when there is no problem
Then I would hope that this would be a good change xD
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@Master said:
@Dead_by_David said:
I do not think they should be able to give up when ever they want, this will be abused. It should give the option a certain amount of time after gates open though.Abused in what way?
Survivors would have less fun being dicks to killers.
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yeah there is an option for ending the game, its called opening the pause menu and pressing leave match
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@se05239 said:
@Master said:
@Dead_by_David said:
I do not think they should be able to give up when ever they want, this will be abused. It should give the option a certain amount of time after gates open though.Abused in what way?
Survivors would have less fun being dicks to killers.
I see
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se05239 said:
@Master said:
@Dead_by_David said:
I do not think they should be able to give up when ever they want, this will be abused. It should give the option a certain amount of time after gates open though.Abused in what way?
Survivors would have less fun being dicks to killers.
Yes this is good response
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Barriers that prevent vaulting could work.
Like the Obi-Wan vs Darth Maul. The barriers could cycle.
Once you enter the escape area you will have 15 seconds to escape. After 15 seconds both sides will close off to you, but not the killer. Teabag that.
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This is an endgame thing and the Devs are working on this, no idea what that entails of course.
I hate this problem myself, Survivors who are holding the game hostage or stick around for longer than necessary should be punished in-game. DBD has no timer so we need creative things like a gas that can reveal their Aura and put them in a dying state if they stick around for too long. Or maybe they become Exposed after a certain time or something. Having a way for the Killer to just end the match isn't fair nor creative.
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