when is camping not camping?
It's not camping if you hook someone and see 2 other survivors right in front of you just waiting for the unhook right?
then why does the game still treat it like I am camping? I check the score at the end and I'm still punished for being too close to a hooked survivor.
this isn't a complaint just a question.
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If I don't have a tent with a double thick air mattress at the least, it ain't camping. I don't know why people even camp anyway, there's gotta be easier ways to find an excuse to pee outside.
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For the same reason it'll never be in-game punished; the game can't tell the difference in camping tactically (I'm calling this camping tactically only because the game calls it camping when all but the mainiest of survivor mains would agree with the game and say you're camping) and someone pitching a tent and getting a marshmallow out for their next s'more.
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I agree they need to take into account the other players within a certain distance for point calculation.
But camping is when you hook someone, nobody else is nearby, and you just stand there doing nothing but waiting for them to either die or someone to risk trying to save them, so that you can hook them as well.
If I hook someone and someone else tries to unhook immediately before I can even leave, I'm not camping. I'm just punishing their mistake.
If I hook someone and I know someone else is coming from a certain direction to try and save them and I go to intercept them, that's not camping. I'm just applying pressure in order to snowball a slight lead, which is what you have to do.
Same thing with what people call 'tunneling'.
If your teammate unhooks you but I can only find your trail cause they're crouch walking everywhere, sorry but you're the one I'm going against. I don't have time to search for your friend for 5 minutes while they hide.
If I'm following trails and see 2 go in opposite directions, I'm taking a 50/50 and picking one to chase, sorry if it's yours. But I'm not going to double back once I realize it's the person I hooked because the other survivor is already in Narnia.
But if there's 3 people running in front of me, and I bypass all of them to go for the one person I just unhooked, yeah that's tunneling.
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If you do not leave the map, you are camping according to the survivors I play against.
It is apparently subjective, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just play how you want. If you want more points for that category, leave the hook proximity and let them save for free.
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In my opinion, 'camping' is when you stay within a certain radius (say, 8-16 meters) of a hooked survivor, preferably keeping them within view and within actionable distance. The hooked survivor then acts as a sort of 'bait'.
Facecamping, then, is when said radius' traversal time is shorter than the time it takes to unhook the survivor. It's essentially making it impossible for anyone to save that survivor without taking damage or even trading. Done when you want that specific survivor to be unable to do anything, ultimately killing them. Or when the killer's desperate for a kill at any cost. Particularly effective when playing as Bubba, and the killer you'll see doing it the most. I personally refer to that as leatherfacecamping, but it hasn't exactly caught on.
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Camping is alwyas camping.
The important thing is - it doesn´t matter. Camp if you get an advantage or if you have to, because they are already swarming the hook.
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When all Generators are finished & Exit Gates are opened. Camping should be fine. Your trying to secure at least 1 kill by then.
Also if survivors are coming in for the save. Its not camping.
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Meh, there’s nothing inherently wrong with camping. It’s a risky strategy with ups and downsides that can be punished.
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I'll camp
- When all gens are completed. It's a solid 'crisis moment' for everyone. I won't do it if more than 1 person is dead though.
- When someone is BM.
That said, that's not camping and the score penalty is annoying. I swear, some people will deliberately run me around the hook for this exact reason.
Eh. On some killers, facecamping is far too rewarding and not all that risky at all. If you get an early hook on an instadown killer, you can pretty reliably win using this.
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Well no, they do gens and leave and you get maybe 2K max if they have comms/Kindred. For solos/altruistic morons, it’s fully possible to get more though I can acknowledge.
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That's a big 'if'.
The issue though is that it's insanely unfun to play against and there isn't much that can really be done outside of 'just let that player die'.
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There's no way to punish it that isn't easily abusable. Devs have tried the ideas people have suggested before. That is WHY they scrapped those ideas.
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very true
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The issues with Camping is there are 3 types of camping.......
Accidental Camping - When other Survivors run you around the hooked Survivor until they die. You didn't do it intentionally but it happened.
Pseudo Camping - Demo and Hag are examples of Pseudo Campers. They are not camping to be toxic they are using thier powers to keep the pressure up.
Toxic Camping - We all know what that is so I dont need to explain it.
I have been accused of camping before but when you literally run me around the hooked Survivor then it's on you and not me.
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Camping is camping when survivors lose, and they need an excuse to justify their own crappy play.
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Camping is camping, always.
The strategic value of that particular tactic is determined by the circumstances .
And, good survivors and killers understand when and why they are used. And, if they are true gamers, don't hate when it's used appropriately and don't use it when unnecessary.
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Run Devour Hope. When the icon lights up you are officially not camping.
If they break your totem, well they brought it on themselves. Them the breaks.
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